TRL

32 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said:

Spot on,I’m one of the key workers the government mentioned but why should I take the risk while a majority of this country think it’s to much hard work to keep themselves indoors 

Me too. I am starting to feel the same if a few of my colleagues and I decide to bugger off and self isolate millions ain't getting paid!

8 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

A leaked Gov document suggested 500k could die ... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-news-latest-deaths-uk-infection-flu-a9360271.html

That will help the unemployment figures!:(

2 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Correlation of the people not getting it and people who voted Brexit must be quite high I’d say 

I doubt it. I would think either side of that divide are equally as thick all for their own selfish reasons.

Selfishness is the common denominator not political leanings from my experience 

1 minute ago, And Its Smith said:

Good. Drove down Gloucester Road today. Packed 

Agreed. I'd go so far as to say seizure of bought goods if it gets too stupid. 

People just don't seem to be getting it. I just really wonder how ******* thick some people are in this country.

2 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

Could be worse I suppose. Trump and his cronies had an even slower response to this and as a result the US infection rate per capita has just overtaken ours. Worried about my family out there.

Thanks for this info, Ed. I genuinely didn't know this - and have been turning down flu jabs for years. Will take it next time it's offered.

 

On another point, the panic buyers are still at it and silly things are scarce now. Fresh veg, eggs, meat - even bloody pickles.  Supermarkets I've been too are permanently rammed and the shortages mean you often have to go to more than one to get basics. Meaning you probably encounter about 1000 times the number of potentially infected people than if the pubs were still open. I wonder if it's time to start scoping bringing back ration books?

This is a war. Just against an invisible enemy.

Army will be out soon you can guarantee it. People are just not listening. They need it imposed on them if the cannot act sensibly 

2 minutes ago, Maesknoll Red said:

After eaten.. yep!

1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Yeah, that sounds right- think I read similar the other day. Albeit with football rather than pubs, but it's applicable across the board.

I think if it was covered there would be very little paid out as the insurance companies would be bankrupt overnight.. more unemployment!

2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Er, yeah- about that...

Unfortunately though it's not certain, I've read lots of different things but many businesses and pubs don't have insurance that would cover this type of event ie serious illness/pandemic.

Even then, I read- in conjunction with football admittedly- that insurance for health reasons or something, may not cut it because it has to be an existing illness/virus/whatever- I'll try and find the article.

The issue is covid19 is not named on the policy as it didn't exist at the time, so it is not covered. That is one of the issues I have heard reported

First london hospital has hit critical capacity!  It has begun

3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Be surprised if many are hiring right now, tbh...

Supermarkets are be it only temporary 

2 minutes ago, Super said:

That was always going to be the problem when you tell the youngsters this will hardly affect them.

If they get some footage of the young dying from it maybe they will get the message, as they certainly have been in Italy.

Play it all over mainstream media and social media. It maybe hard to look at but sometimes you have to stop shielding people from the nasty shit that happens in this world.

I know what is coming out in the media is not completely true. My italian work colleague has lost 2 20 something cousins to this with No underlying health issues.. but you dont hear about that in the media.

15 minutes ago, Odysseus said:

Let’s hope it doesn’t spread to prisons. If it does then you’re all about to witness like the US what kind of country we’ve really become in how we treat citizens. All hell will brake lose in a system already in its knees like so much else. I think it could create the biggest scandal through this epidemic.  

It already has.. and they are thinking about releasing 3000 inmates not thought to be a danger to the public because of it

5 minutes ago, Maesknoll Red said:

Many can't work at home, for those that can if offices are shut , then the use of power just switches surely,  I have a laptop and monitor plugged in at home, I would have a laptop and two monitors at work - not sure what the difference is?

It the things like tv heating  lighting all the other gadgets at home which suddenly get turned on during the day which now get switched on. Lots off offices will still be open , many people now with laptops that will take themhome to use.. the power consumption is going to change massively

1 minute ago, Fodbarmyarmy said:

Sky showing "experts" who say the govt "social distancing" plans could be for 12 months !.....imagine no large gatherings for 12mths...jeez

Our world is going to change immeasurably.

If most people have to work at home that is a lot more houses using power. Will our power grid cope? It's running at nearly max as it is.

The repercussions could be huge, far worse than supermarkets being short of goods.

2 minutes ago, Paul G said:

Yes, being ex Army I know its bullcrap just thought it slightly amusing amongst all the sad news we are dealing with at the moment. My apologies. 

Sorry that wasn't aimed at you it was aimed at the picture and caption on it

24 minutes ago, Paul G said:

Like this

Bullshit. Overtaking a hummer on left. That if true is in America not the m25 :laugh:.

The crap people scaremongering with.

I have no doubt the military's going to be involved at some point.. but not driving yank hummers on the wrong side of the road

2 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

It is possible that curfews may come in - if people continue to ignore the advice not to attend gatherings, pubs, etc. 

 

Yep, that was my thinking, but I am getting angry thinking about those idiots so decided to say nowt rather than go off on a rant

6 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

When we say lockdown, can we define lockdown?

People still need to eat- supermarkets for example.

I suspect that will also be fluid, if it gets  so bad it could be that people are handed out cards that allow them to go shopping on certain days  and it has to be shown to police/army on request.  Hopefully it never comes to that, but the wy this is escalating, it is a possibility.

2 minutes ago, lenred said:

If people stop acting like dicks then there’s a better chance it won’t happen. Pubs packed yesterday for Paddy’s day apparently in a lot of cities.    

Exactly

2 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

I don't think anyone will be under house arrest...

 

I wouldn't take anything off the table the way thing s are going, and at a quick rate.  There have already been 3 or 4 actions which a month ago wouldn'tever in a month of Sundays thought would ever happen!

3 minutes ago, Super said:

Could well be closed until September.

Good luck to people  Working fro......   staying at home looking after kids and trying to keep them in the house!  I don't envy any parents out there trying to to  entertain a kid who is getting bored in the house, especially if we end up in lockdown

3 minutes ago, havanatopia said:

This chart suggests the govt is doing a whole lot more than those with childish jibes that they are not. These are facts. Look at Italy.. what a laugh. Even the US is only committing to 5% of GDP at present.

My faith remains in a govt who leans on a world renowned medical team and industry.

And don't forget, that is confirmed, if more is needed the chancellor will authorise it

Italy are coming out of near bankruptcy  still,it is low considering the state they are in, unfortunately the horse bolted for Italy, and they are playing a awful game of catch up

14 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

There's different types tbh, wouldn't you say?

Contractors. White collar, non white collar. Some of these can make hay and yes, but not all- world we live in as you say.

Self-employed. The traditional traders, labourers- builders, whatever. Again some of these, but by no means all can be 

'Self-employed'. The most vulnerable. These are self-employed, but not really- better known as zero hours, but self- employed or via agencies partially, tax reasons or whatever. Or I don't know, door knocking on commission only- loads of these types of jobs around, some better than others but these fall through the cracks and some especially so.

Oh without doubt. Many types and all can be under the heading contractors. Each one very much open to market conditions. Some people may not have any other choice but to work in this type of role, a lot do, be it for more money or working for yourself. Something to think about if the choice is in your remote.

That said if you are not under an umbrella company some of these contractors will be seen as a business in their own right so will hopefully be getting some help

2 minutes ago, !james said:

Sensible move. Hopefully some can benefit from this 

Well that is good news for not only restaurants but gig economy employees for the likes of just eat uber eats etc.. 

1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Contractors temp staff, much the same?

Depends what temp staff are I guess. Like seasonal staff. Its shit but with those type of roles you a very vulnerable. Hell if you haven't been in a permy role for more than 2 years you really have no rights.. unless you there is a bullying case involved. It's the world we live now.

Bad times

16 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Another indicator that we are living in remarkale times.

Clearly full sympathies with those affected on job front.

Well they got rid of contractors with immediate effect.. unfortunately that is the life of a contractor.  Make hay while the sun is shining