Fuber
-
Posts
2326 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Store
Events
Posts posted by Fuber
-
-
14 hours ago, DT The Optimist said:
It’s like ‘what if….’
Djuric was never really fit for us… could have been a great signing.
Pisano was a decent right back, until that injury. Never same again.Nagy started well..another nasty injury…and so on.
Good old Rolls-y!
Guess which club had an injury hit March?
The prize is an empty pack of chewing gum and an odd sock that my dog chewed.
-
Out of interest, with a few people (on the likes of Twitter, etc,) highlighted an interest as to whether city should sign the likes of Hector (who was on circa £20kpw at Fulham) - what's a wage bill that people consider 'sustainable' in lieu of the last few seasons and the general overspending that's occurred?
For example in 18/19, 19/20, and 20/21 wage spending was circa £30m, £33m, and £36m respectively.
For context, average Revenue between 2017-2020 was circa £26m, peaking at around £31m in 18/19. Discounting the 20/21 results on revenue in leiu of the impact of COViD.
What should we overall perhaps be aiming for as wages% as a proportion of turnover?
For example, my logic would be circa 90-95% wages as proportion of turnover, overheads to be offset by odd bits of player trading. Which would thereby mean wage bill of around £22m/per annum.
My educated guess is that we're currently in or around that figure currently around £23-24m if NP and RG have reduced the overall bill by a third.
So what are people general views on how Sustainability should look for us?
-
4
-
-
3 hours ago, Mendip City said:
Remind me what colours the Saudi national team wear…… awful
Worth pointing out that while it's a blatant Saudi connection, Newcastle have had both green and white change kits before.
I dont consider it anywhere near the same bracket as Tan/Cardiff etc.
-
9 hours ago, Tafkarmlf said:
I do, however, the OP was a weird false Dichotomy. I've not seen calls to sack NP for a bit, so it was a strange post to make in the first instance.
The claim from another poster that GJ should have stayed, despite everything falling apart was also odd, to me.
If whooshed, so be it, this week has been nuts anyway.
That's because there's no losses in the off season for the cretins to dogpile on.
-
11 hours ago, trickytimes said:
Surely the flat fences at Wembley are a danger then. If they are difficult to climb over, then they would be even more of a barrier in an emergency.
They are a danger - until lowered by stewards in case of an emergency.
Some are also powered by gas struts in some stadia such as in the Bundesliga that open in case of emergencies that are tested regularly, vertical as opposed to Wembley's horizontal as pictured.
If people hurt themselves hurtling over them in a non emergency situation, then they 100% deserve it imo.
-
Out of interest do we have any ideas as to when CFs contract ran to?
I'm aware it was an initial 3 month to cover Simpsons absence, but when and for how long was it extended?
-
6 hours ago, Malago said:
You see I disagree. I think full back is specialist position which your average player needs time and games playing there to fully get the hang of it.
Bradley Orr?
-
7 hours ago, Negan said:
This would be such a terrible move for him. I can’t believe his stock wasn’t higher after leaving us. It’s not like he left us at the bottom of the league after years of fighting relegation. Definitely deserved another club at our level. If he goes up there and it goes wrong he’ll do well to get above league 2, if it goes right it doesn’t really increase his stock anymore. Odd decision for him. Should hang on and wait for something like Rotherham or Peterborough. Even Derby should Rooney not stay.
The issue is if you look at the more of our finances have been in due to the onset of his reign, it's doesn't read well.
Granted, year on year improvement.
However over the same period as noted elsewhere on this forum, wages to turnover rose 50%, irrespective of having Ashton above him, he himself stated he had final sign off on signings.
Hence nobody else in the championship coming in for him.
His man management is simply not good enough. See Fielding/Wilbs comments, etc. Similar at Sunderland it seems.
-
11 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:
That selection of centre backs gets incredibly young and inexperienced very quickly.
For financial reasons, it does make sense to try and sell Kalas if possible (or extend his contract on a lower wage). However, if we sell Kalas then I certainly think we'd need to sign a replacement as a priority (regardless of loans for Idehen/Towler).
Agreed.
But I wouldn't consider it as urgent as a full back or midfield.
Added to which, there are a fair number of centre backs available on a free or for low transfer fees this window. We're not short of options.
-
5 hours ago, Davefevs said:
Been ok, been part of a defence that’s looked tighter. If he was 21 instead of 24 we’d probably be more glowing…but he’s taken his chance. You are right though, it’s a low cost contract extension ultimately.
My view is better squad player than Vyner, ergo keep.
I'm assuming four at the back next season.
Extend Klose, get rid of Kalas where possible as well as Baker, Taylor Moore, and Vyner if any takers, then have Cundy as a squad option along with Towler and Idehen who for me have greater potential. Would also help cutting wage costs further.
Would give options at CB of; Klose, Atkinson, Cundy, Idehen, Towler, with a further option to be signed where we wish to loan out on of Idehen/Towler.
Would free up wages to sign a right-back, centre-mid, and winger.
-
1
-
-
On 04/05/2022 at 14:22, SecretSam said:
I never liked the purple and lime anyway, but it's become a bit stale. I'd like a properly yellow away kit, for a change. Or a white-out kit, that would be cool.
I'd actually be a fan of the circa 1990-92 yellow/green away shirt to be redone in Hummels style. Lumsden era I think?
Granted we'd probably get mistaken for the Canaries on occasion but heyho.
-
1
-
-
2 hours ago, Mr Sno said:
Fair examples and I woild agree with all of these bar Femi Azeez. A good young player but I just don't see him getting into our side, perhaps a decent sub but he isn't someone who could perform Martins role.
He can do a job our wide cutting in but I don't see us playing with wingers while WSM are performing so well.
He is a quick option who can play wide or central in the forward areas.
Currently we don't really have anyone who can take on his man, Semenyo aside. Especially if the latter gets injured. Maybe Edwards but that's it, and the latter really needs consistent game time in League One.
-
9 hours ago, redcherryberry said:
James Bree?
Pending Luton don’t go up, obviously. Championship experienced versatile right back & OOC in summer. Only 24 so plenty of room for improvement still. Has had a very good season & chipped in with a few assists.
I know he was on 30+k at Villa so must of took a massive pay cut upon signing for LTFC. Could do a lot worse IMO.
I dont think he was on that much at Villa, they signed him on a fringe/backup playtime contract. Most resources I can see online estimate a figure of circa £8-12kpw at a Villa Park and £4-6kpw at Luton.
Entirely realistic that we could offer him £6-8kpw, and keep the change from O'Dowda's wage. Hell we could get him and Kane Wilson in if needed for Callum's wages almost (less signing-on fees).
On 24/04/2022 at 22:15, Mr Popodopolous said:I look at these from time to time. The 23-30 bracket has been my main focus but maybe it's too narrow...as we've seen with Klose and especially Martin on the one hand, then some youth on the other age isn't everything.
Certainly not fully in date but RB, CB and DM, 23-30. Some useful players out of contract- some unrealistic ones too of course...
Of those a handful stand out as possible very good options for our financial position, did my own browsing also.
If I was shortlisting for recruitment (Ha, I wish!):
- Goalkeeper: Michael Cooper (22, Plymouth), Only if Bentley is sold.
- Right Fullbacks/Wingbacks: James Bree (24, Luton) Free, Kane Wilson (22, FGR) Free. Andy Yiadom (30, Reading) Free.
- Central Defenders; Eirin Cashin (20, Derby), Tom Holmes (22, Reading), Elliott Moore (25, Oxford) all free agents end of season, latter may have an option (?).
- Wingers; Femi Azeez (20, Reading) Free.
- Midfielders; Andy Rinomhota (25, Reading) Free.
The issue I have with some names mentioned - Wages. Byrne, Lawrence, Pack, are all on decent wedges, other clubs will be able to easily compete with us if said demands are lower, with said clubs have higher ceilings than we have (Parachute, Sponsorship, Turnover).
I also realise Nige isn't a fan of loans, but if we can get one or two in where we only pay a proportion percentage of wages and minimal fees there are some superb options who can act as cover while we scout replacements (Massengo) and rotate with players who need time to develop, I.e. Charlie Patino, Alfie Devine, Tommy Doyle, whose wages match outgoings assuming contract situation remains unchanged and a buyer comes forward.
It would then mean we could offset fees received for the year to benefit our FFP outlook, provided we get rid of the deadwood and higher earners (Moore, Kalas, Baker, Wells, Palmer, King, Bakinson, O'Dowda) and give us breathing room to allowa stronger negotiating position (Scott, Semenyo).
This is all personal conjecture and means nothing, but just sharing for the sake of discussion. Feel free to debate.
-
2
-
-
On 25/04/2022 at 18:15, Mr Sno said:
I think at 24 there will be bigger suitors... I would happily take Yiadom, Rimomhata and Honeyman.
Worth noting Rinomhota is a decent box to box / ball winning midfielder. Really solid option on a free.
-
2 hours ago, Bristol Oil Services said:
You read this on here, over and over.
Merrick and Ritchie, Arsenal, Alan Dicks 1976 anyone?
The games long moved on. Albeit unfortunately.
-
39 minutes ago, bcfcredandwhite said:
At the time of posting this I think we’ve given away 25 points from winning positions (trusting Sky punditry).
We will always let SOME leads slip or there would be no score draws, but 25 points is a lot. With those points we’d be 3rd on 77 (ok as I said we would have dropped SOME of them anyway)
Looking at the league table, we have been scoring quite well - 57 goals - more than Sheffield U (56) - and only QPR have scored more (58) outside the top 5.
So, on goals scored we are 7th in the league. The reason we are where we are is our defence.
we’ve been better of late - and if we get it sorted for next season there’s no reason why we can’t be up there around the top 6.I'd actually say barring Peterborough the defence has markedly improved - the issue being these same games have had a Cundy-Klose-Atkinson combination at the back.
I actually wouldn't be averse to selling Kalas at this moment in time, moving on the likes of Taylor-Moore, Vyner; need to find out the situation with Baker this summer and see if enforced retirement is needed, which would be covered by insurance in best case scenario(?).
I think one of the weaker points may actually be keeper. O'Leary is at a stage where he needs games, and barring the odd wonder-save, Bents does give me kittens when he comes off of his line, for anything, I.e. Sheff Utd.
What we need most of all is proper fullbacks. Especially RB, where its just Tanner on paper.
Who knows.
No matter what, despite early signs, it's going to be an interesting summer.
-
9
-
-
11 hours ago, harrys said:
Most fans thought the appointment of Cotterill was shambolic, what do fans know?
That was Dawe's appointment wasn't it?
-
2
-
-
28 minutes ago, Davefevs said:
Lots to agree with here.
Only point I would disagree with - is that SL will most likely leave a lasting legacy.
I think his heart was in the right place. But overall decision making and appointments have been shambolic, mostly down to what has to be a very weird amateurish culture at the club
The latter, ultimately comes from the top down.
Any proficient chairman gets all the infrastructure in place first, and places trust in his process depending on the aim, once decided on a method.
See examples with regards to other chairman who got clubs similar and smaller into the PL, i.e. Brentford (2014-Present), Reading (Madejski, 1990-2012), Swansea (Jenkins, 2002-2018).
All of them made decisive decisions in the first half of their tenures (Recruitment, Academy, Infrastructure) respectively.
It's taken SL over 20 years as a board member to get up to date training facilities, and refurbish Ashton Gate.
They should have been first on the list.
-
9
-
-
24 minutes ago, bcfcredandwhite said:
Ok so I dare to suggest that NP should be doing better and I’m a clown.
I quote figures off the internet which are ‘made up’Please share, oh wise and enlightened ones - what was Simpson on - and how many of the squad who drew 1-1 against 10 man Posh were signed by LJ/Ashton?
oops sorry - I read the results on the unreliable internet - maybe we won 4-0?
The key difference is that the latter is corroborated across multiple sources and witnesses and verified by credible authorities, individuals, and witnesses.
Ergo it can be critically analysed and confirmed factual.
Nobody can confirm the wages, it's as simple as that. Critiquing NP also does not make you a clown.
What makes the original post laughable is drawing upon a random source as fact with no secondary evidence to corroborate. It's also (you may not be aware) been bought up before on the forum and widely written off as speculative at best.
Secondly, some of the other points you make can't be used to smear Pearson with as they are untrue (Diedhiou, Paterson) and are more applicable to Ashton.
With regards to Palmer, he's injured (again), and a waste of a wage.
With respect to Peterborough match, three of the players were signed by Pearson, two being free agents.
Wells' wages would almost pay the wages of all three, which is laughable.
-
2
-
-
47 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:
There is always a way to disprove things.
The easy way here is Weimann.
As seen above, for 2022 per that site he is on £18k p/w.
We know as fact we renegotiated his contract in summer 2021 as the option was at a higher level, and we did a three year deal on lower money. So logic confirms he was on more than £18k per week in 2020 etc.
Helpfully, Salarysport also gives the figures they’ve used for prior years. For Andi…
https://salarysport.com/football/player/andreas-weimann/
Yes, their salary for him in 2020 is the same as in 2022. Leading to the indisputable conclusion, they are totally guessing and have no idea who is paid what.
Also worth noting that Simpsons salary is taken from what he was earning at Huddersfield.
... 3 years ago, after leaving Leicester ...and they had parachute payments.
The page is purely speculation and guesses.
-
3
-
-
On 09/04/2022 at 19:04, Andy082005 said:
We really don’t need what he is doing (or not doing)
Pearson has proved he is past it. There we’re question marks after his last couple of roles, and we can all see now why he hasn’t been given a better role
Allardyce, Hughes, Hodgson, Pearson etc….they are all yesterday’s managers
Really? He completely turned Watford around in EPL with then having been bottom and adrift, and actually gave them a bit of fight, and then inexplicably was sacked with two games to go (I.e. Fosters comments on NP).
The only job that he shouldn't have failed at was Derby on paper - but even then, him and Morris were never getting along. OH Leuven was always going to end in tears (Moyes in Spain etc).
Nige wants triers and people that fight. We only have one or two.
-
2
-
-
On 09/04/2022 at 22:34, italian dave said:
My feeling is that we are at a crossroads right now.
I think SL (or whoever) may have made the wrong appointment, and that’s in no way being critical of NP. We all know that there the styles of play, personalities, strategic approaches that managers adopt at a club can vary enormously. The risk is that when you change managers you end up having to change everything about the club - and that takes time.
SL did that in the past and said he’d recognised that was a mistake and that he wouldn’t do it again. But he then didn’t seem to be able to think of an option beyond the internal appointment (Holden) to achieve it. And when that failed he reverted to type and just went for a change. He didn’t do what clubs like Brentford and Swansea have done and gone for an external appointment but one who’d absolutely buy into the existing strategy.NP talks about the culture and the softness and the weak approach of recent years, but it’s a culture and an approach that saw us finish in the top half of the table three years running. It’s not fundamentally flawed, it’s just an approach, a culture, that’s diametrically opposed to NPs view of the game.
You’re right that he needs time to ‘fix it’, in the sense that fix means ingrain the completely different approach a culture that he sees as the right one. That’s going to involve a complete change of personnel, including potentially a complete overhaul of the academy approach too.
My worry is that he just won’t get that time. I really can’t see (and NP said as much in the week) that we’re going to be able to afford to change much in the summer. And if we start next season with NP in charge of what’s essentially the same squad as we have now then we will be heading for relegation. I don’t think SL will countenance relegation as part of the long term plan to overhaul the club. So mid next season we risk being back in the search for another new manager and no real sense of direction in the club.
I’m torn now between what you say, give him the time to do what he has to do (and that’s my instinctive approach every time - including like you with LJ) and a feeling that now is the time to cut and run. I’ve no idea who, or who’d come mind you!
That was in no way sustainable, flawed, and has us in the current mess.
For every position gained on the table, we essentially smacked £4m on wage spending. If it had carried on we'd currently be in Reading's current situation.
-
4
-
1
-
-
I can't go back to the David Brent style spin. I just can't.
7 hours ago, italian dave said:Puts it brilliantly Dave.
MA was a finance director. What LJ needed was a director of football.
I was about to suggest Pearson as DOF/Consultant and LJ as Head Coach.
Then realized if Lee said any kind of buzzword, Nige would probably sit there utterly stumped wondering what it was he meant and after the fourth would probably punch him.
-
1
-
6
-
-
1 hour ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:
I think that at this point I'm in the can anyone of those do worse camp. What we don't know is who is realistically available at the end of this season or what the thinking is or what the budget is or whether we get a sell on bonus or cash-in on one or two of our players and if so, how much? It's not our job and whilst speculation is great fun it is merely that alone.
Despite a popular narrative that we are a basket case of a club- we are still an attractive proposition to many prospective Managers with brilliant facilities,Stadium, Performance centre, stable UK ownership and several emerging youth talents as well as some decent players in our squad. It's not all doom and gloom.
None of that in bold matters however does it?
Especially when we're in such a mess financially.
- Our facilities are good for this level sure. However.
- Stadium doesn't matter if we can't fill it, attendances and income will only decrease.
- Stable must be a by-word for innept and rudderless.
- Talents that will be sold to cover said ownerships own failings.
No other club at this levels has the sheer scale of cultural change required that we do, within both playing staff, ownership, and management.
The only club arguably in a worse situation than us that will be in this league next season is Reading. Maybe Birmingham.
And the latter two are all but hamstrung by worse owners than ours, which makes our situation all the more laughable.
I just don't see who joins us that has experience at this level. Simple as that. We'd end up with another lower league manager, a coach, or LJ. Warburton, if he leaves QPR as an example, would be mad to take us on. Much better clubs would be lining up for him, at the very least more stable than us currently.
LJ to Hibs
in Football Chat
Posted
His achievements here ultimately mean nothing if we were in a better position overall (including financials) before he arrived.
The entire up-tradingbstratehy was a huge risk that simply was not necessary, and the more of SC's squad that was replaced, the less of a 'team' it became.
LJs man-management is woeful.