JamesBCFC

2 minutes ago, Maesknoll Red said:

The stewards with all the data they have, obviously felt that wasn’t the case, if you know better why not offer your services.

That's not actually true.

The stewards lacked data at the time the decision was made.

No change was made because they ruled (bizarrely) the new evidence wasn't "significant".

However what has been very evident throughout this thread is your anti LH stance.

3 minutes ago, Maesknoll Red said:

Will the next race have a run off area like that, doubt it, each incident needs to be judged separately.

it does on multiple corners.

Not even attempting to make the corner to force someone wide should be a penalty regardless of track or layout.

5 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said:

No penalty for Verstappen, about right in my opinion.

Absolute nonsense, he made no attempt to make the corner, just force them both off.

If someone isn't allowed to overtake off track, you shouldnt be able to force both off in defence.

This has now set a precedent where it will be impossible for Hamilton to overtake Verstappen around the outside, because Max will just do the same thing every time, "hit me and we both DNF or go off track and lose time"

I guarantee if Bottas does this to Verstappen next race and Max hits him (because he flat out refuses to ever back out no matter what) you will be complaining about it.

Joke decision from the FIA

16 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Would be delighted if City game moved….my dad’s 80th birthday meal on the Saturday.

Appears that officials told both clubs they could make a 6th sub, Bradford were supposedly preparing their 6th at the time they realised they’d got it wrong.

What seems odd to me (although I can see some reasoning) is the FA saying the replay has to be done in full and is at Exeter again, but the red card in the game still stands.

Surely it's a case of the game being void or not.

However can also see that if it had been a red for violent misconduct or something it would then look like player gets off free from the behaviour. 

1 hour ago, East Londoner said:

Personally i don’t think it’s a penalty but i didn’t think Norris was a penalty in Austria or others. Now they need to be consistent not change things just because there’s a championship at stake.

Hopefully they can start 2022 with fewer penalties and let the drivers sort things out between them which could make things interesting  
 

Always felt the Norris penalty at Austria was harsh.

He was ahead the whole time and stuck to the racing line, not deliberately push Perez off.

Add in that they say they are more lenient on the first lap/first lap after a safety car (which it was) and Norris was penalised for Perez being overambitious.

Whereas Max here should have been an open and shut "he forced him wide".

18 minutes ago, Lrrr said:

Because he's not on the racing line its harder to know how late he can leave the corner and turn in to catch the curb on the way out. To put it simply as said he hasn't straightened his steering wheel to direct him towards Lewis so I think proving intent to run Lewis off the road is harder to prove then that he was trying to turn to catch the curb on the way out with braking later to defend etc.

He wasn't on the racing line so hard for that comparison

But being off the racing line means he should be more cautious with the corner, and as Hamilton already has the position Max has to either turn in earlier to try and retake it, or cede the position. 

Not wait until he's virtually at the apex before turning, and then taking the position back by running them both off track.

1 hour ago, nebristolred said:

Isn't it something to do with the fact that each car can only have 1 camera live streamed from them? And in Max's case it was just the rear-facing one - they have to wait for the car to come in before downloading all of the other cameras?

If so I find it mad that the stewards cannot get the onboards from each driver live.

Don't think so, in the replay shown in the race we had the camera on his steering wheel down the straight, but it switched to the rear facing one right at the corner entry.

9 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

Blackpool hold the record with 26, I think they will get more than 27 points from their remaining games.

Will be quite funny if they manage it.

Googles showing Derby on -3 at the moment, so 30 needed to get past Blackpool

Could Derby end this season with not just the lowest ever Premier League points tally, but Championship one too?

Guy I work with has a bet on, but need us to have 10 corners.

He's not happy with their goalkeeper!

9 minutes ago, frenchred said:

let’s hope that when kane breaks the england scoring record he gets the same shit as rooney took on here. He only scores against crap teams etc etc. rooney never played against any team this bad!

Yes he did.

He played, and scored against San Marino in 4 different games.

May have played in more without scoring, didn't check that hard.

1 hour ago, East Londoner said:

With the constructors championship being quite close it’ll be interesting to see how far they’re willing to go and which championship they’ll prioritise. The constructors one is where most from the prize money comes from after all 

With the reg changes and how they're limiting some times for things like wind tunnels it might be preferable to take the WDC and come second in the Constructors this year.

Neither side is short of money either way, but less restrictions on their development allocation could prove pivotal.

1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said:

You'll have to let me know which sporting greats don't come across as a bit of a cock sometimes.  I would suggest there are none... 

Clarke is up there for sure. But longevity is key to being a great for me and sadly, like Senna, he cannot claim success over a sustained period. 

Bits that give him an edge for me is that he wasn't just F1, but he raced everything. Pretty sure there was one year where he averaged at more than 1 race a week, and that's when travelling down to Australia would take multiple days.

He led for 95% of an Indy500 on his way to winning it, and in an F1 race he lost an entire lap, unlapped himself and retook the lead of the race, only to come third because the car had been underfuelled. 

Plus the comments from engineers about how they could look at components and tell which were from his car because they weren't worn down at all, and drivers of the time saying his death had to be a mechanical failure because Jim just didn't make mistakes.

Or how it's pretty widely accepted the only reason he didn't get more than 2 WDC was entirely down to the reliability of his Lotus.

I'm sure there's probably an element of bias in my view because he was so far before my time and not seeing him race, but he still has the record for % of laps led in one season over 50 years on, and both his titles he got the maximum points he possibly could (although that's with the different scoring system of the time).

Of course it's impossible to fairly compare drivers from different eras and good arguments could be made for Fangio, Senna, Hamilton and a few others no doubt.

1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Don't really understand how or why Lewis' greatness is still called into question. Comparing era's is of course hard. But especially if he wins an 8th title this season he surely has to go down as the greatest ever. 

He's not dull like Schumacher was either, he's a proper box office racing driver. 

Jim Clarke the greatest for me, but Hamilton has to be in the conversation. 

15 minutes ago, TomF said:

Can you imagine how much crying Horner would have been doing if Lewis was as aggressive as that 

He'd have flooded the lakes around Interlagos

And if Max had actually been penalised for his dirty driving he doesn't get 2nd.

Great drive by SLH though

How Max has 22% on driver of the day shows it as the joke it is. 

Hamilton and Norris should easily be the top 2 on that, Lando having to come back from last to get in the points.

1 minute ago, TomF said:

He’s such a ***** 

Yeah, perfect. Say hi

Well done Lewis

Just now, TomF said:

That weaving. Absolute ****

Max being allowed to get away with anything this race, first pushing Lewis off track, then double defensive moves.

Verstappen is such a dirty ****

Mercedes look like they have ****** up the strategy yet again

15 minutes ago, ZiderMeUp said:

What’s engvall up to now? 

At Mechelen in Belgian top division 

My favourite player to wear the Bristol Rovers shirt, Colin Daniel, was a part of the Exeter side tonight.

29 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

‘Not our best keeper’?  Come on, he was shockingly bad…

He had a awful moment at the start of the game, but other than that didn't really do anything wrong.

But anything that was slightly imperfect after that first moment was picked up on and exaggerated.