JamesBCFC

4 minutes ago, richwwtk said:

That was my initial thought but he was talking about the kiddie behind him with the round neck shirt on which is from 2020 at the latest

Tbh the covid face masks give it away as a recent one regardless of what the specific kit was!

22 hours ago, northsomersetred said:

BMF need to grow some, shocking he's going to get away with it

 

Arguably they are having balls by not sacking him with all the backlash they are getting.

You just don't see it that way because it's not the outcome you want.

As for bankrolling the club, others probably know more than myself, but speaking to a few other fans in the clubhouse (ones who would have an idea) after the game one of them said Lee had negotiated a larger budget for the season, which suggests it isn't his money, or at least not fully, so the allegation is just that.

When is it likely to be decided on any future penalties for them?

10 hours ago, Northern Red said:

Clown.

An incorrect clown too.

The game on Saturday is at Paulton, so how are Manor Farm going to get a sellout?

3 hours ago, phantom said:

Out of interest has there been any official comment from BMF yet?

Just now

https://bristolmanorfarm.com/club-statement-2/?utm_content=buffera2735&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

On 11/09/2021 at 23:32, ChippenhamRed said:

Is this the greatest underdog victory in the history of sport? I genuinely can’t think of anything better but I’m open to suggestions!

Just remarkable

Bristol Rovers escaping non league. 

33 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said:

I hope we are expecting a bit more than 2 and bit decent performances off him this season 

Well its more than last season

11 minutes ago, Portland Bill said:

So the question is, how many of the outfield players were really poor on the day, and would it be acceptable if the officials tried to attack them because of their poor performance!

What the BMF manager did is 100% unacceptable, regardless of whether anyone thought the referee didn’t have a good game. 
Referees are quitting in massive numbers, I was told that nearly 50% of Hampshire’s referees have quit over the last 2 years. In Somerset there is a big shortage of referees, especially at youth level. Young lads who referee youth games are quitting because of the abuse they get, mainly from parents. Grown men threatening teenage referees, it’s sheer madness. 

At the moment the semi pro leagues aren’t effected, but with no referees coming along behind the current ones, It could well be that these leagues will be short of officials in time. 
Who in there right mind wants to put up with this sort of behaviour and the general 90 minutes of abuse every week. 
No ref, no game. The game needs to wake up, because the way things are going it’s going to happen sooner than a lot of people think. 

 

 

About 6 or 7 of Manor Farm's players were poor on the day. They all got criticism and probably some harsher words at half time (suspect the events with the ref somewhat changed what happened in the dressing room at full time).

No one has tried to suggest Lashenko's actions were justified or ok. My post was context around the game in general.

There's plenty that went on that the video doesn't show, which all adds to the bigger picture.

Can I understand why, given the referees performance and what he felt was an unfair booking on himself that he was angry? Yes.

Was his behaviour acceptable? No.

Should he get punished for it? Yes. 

Does the referee himself need reviewing after his performance? Yes.

Nuance is a thing.

12 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

Firstly, it is years since I played football at any level, and I confess that the rules seem to have changed so much that I have no idea whether or not LL deserved his first yellow card.

He states that he was booked due to a comment that came from the dugout and suggests that, even though he didn’t make said comment, he was booked as he was the manager and, presumably, as the culprit couldn’t be identified, he was responsible (as manager) for the comment even though he didn’t make it.

You state that LL was booked in accordance with the rules of the game, but is my interpretation correct?

Thanks in advance for your response.

Just to add, there were supporters stood around the dugouts as well, so entire possible it wasn't made by one of the club staff

2 hours ago, phantom said:

 

I'm guessing there was no issue between the teams?

Very little needle between the teams.

Can remember one point where a couple of Manor Farm players pushed a Paulton one trying to get the ball after they pulled a goal back, and the Paulton player got booked for not letting them have it.

But nothing lasting, they were having a laugh and chat in the clubhouse afterwards.

3 hours ago, Bob Taylor is GOD said:

£5.40!

When the "sports Bar" first opened, they stated that prices would be the same as local pubs.

Blimey that high now?

That's double where I work.

4 minutes ago, The Bard said:

I did read what you said but it changes nothing 

A long ban is needed. It's football and that level of intimidation and aggression is unjustifiable.

The video still doesn't show the full story. 

20 seconds before this they had done the post match handshake and he was walking to his dressing room.

At that point the referee has said something and decided to send him off.

You can hear him calling the referee a liar, but without knowing what was said it's not possible to know what exactly caused the reaction. 

Was it OK? No.

Is there more to it than just a manager being upset after losing? Yes.

7 minutes ago, The Bard said:

A fine?

 

If football is serious about protecting refs he'll get banned from any kind of involvement in football for about 10 years.

So bored hearing about the standard of refs when they have to deal with that.  

Yet another person who doesn't bother to read things through.

I put a fine and or match ban because I don't know what the punishment would be.

Whatever punishment he gets he can hardly complain, I did make that part clear.

I also tried to make it clear, yet apparently not clear enough, that I was not justifying his behaviour. What I said about the game is all context, meaning I understand why he was angry, but doesn't mean I am saying his actions are acceptable. There is a huge distinction between the two things.

The standard of refs at that level is generally pretty good, this guy was as one eyed as it was possible to be. So when it is such an exception to what they normally have, it is very much something that should be mentioned.

The weekend before this they had a referee who, other that letting a couple of over zealous tackles go, which led to handbags once or twice, was letting the game flow well and mostly did well. He didn't do great, but he did ok, while Saturday just gone saying the ref was abysmal would have been too kind. His performance was bad to the degree of being noteworthy of how bad it was.

5 minutes ago, northsomersetred said:

Can you explain why the gent in the grey jumper, a committee member by all accounts, is touching the ref and saying 'get the **** in your room' and not trying to get the manager off the pitch?

No matter what the refs have done there is absolutely no need for this and people wonder why there's a ref shortage?

Behaviour like that is the reason i don't ref football, I umpire in the local cricket leagues and behaviour of players and team officials/supporters has started to go downhill over the past few years. We don't deliberatley go out to give bad decisions, we do our best under trying conditions at times.

I can't explain why anyone took the actions they did, that is for them to do themselves.

I just gave a broader picture for context about the game.

The referee was dreadful throughout the game (note this is not to justify the behaviour, nor the defeat, Paulton were superb going forward and a particular mention to their 10 who not only gave Manor Farm's defence a torrid time, but also spent a good chunk of the game defending in his own penalty area. The better team on the day won without question). But the referees performance was to the point where one would think he had been club appointed, and even Paulton players were commenting on how bad he was after the game.

After Farm had a player sent of (a rare correct decision, though the original booking was the player reacting to an appalling decision, the second yellow was a nailed on one and a silly tackle to make when already booked) frustrations were rising on the Farm bench.

Lashenko (Farm manager) got booked, or spoken to by the ref late on (do managers get booked? Or just spoken to before getting sent off)

After the game they had the post match handshake just to the right of the goal this was filmed from, everything seemed OK at that point.

Then something clearly got said by either the referee or linesman, because Lashenko completely lost it and turned, going for the ref, calling him a liar amongst other things (you can hear this at 12-13 seconds in).

He was initially pulled away by some players and then tried to have a second go, which is the part that's been filmed.

You can also hear one of the people who went to the game say "he was walking away from you".

I fully understood why he was frustrated, but his behaviour there isn't acceptable at all and he will rightly get a fine, match ban or both.

1 hour ago, WessexPest said:

It might be unfair but that’s life - the no-hopers have to jump through extra hoops in the European club competitions so it’s not without precedent. 

entirely different competition and scenario.
 

European club competitions are every year, with a spot in them determined by how the club did in their domestic competitions the year before. The coefficients which determine which point they enter is determined by that nations previous performances (as in the club from there as a whole), but they still had to earn their spot in the competition independently, and it is annual not quadrennial.

1 hour ago, Shaun Taylor said:

I agree something needs to change to stop these meaningless games and the smaller nations should be in their own qualifying groups.

Problem is if you put all the minnows into a qualifying group then it means one of them makes it into the World Cup, which would be seen as more farcical.

The alternative is them having a qualifying group to join everyone else in qualifying, but that would be unfair on them having to go through extra games just to reach qualifying. 

1 minute ago, Numero Uno said:

My one criticism is she let a couple of Andorra players get away with murder and booked 3-4 England players. Rebes needs taking out the back and given a good shoeing and their number 2 should be waiting in the queue for the same treatment.

Rebes should have been off, didnt really pay attention after his challenge that should have seen him go, but until that point thought she had done a decent job.

Cant comment on after that point.

Rebes should be off now.

I cant see him playing the full 90.

This Andorran 4 is trying everything he can to get players booked or wound up

Just now, Slippin cider said:

It’s to appease the ‘offended by everything’s ‘ ….

No it isn't.

It's to appease OFCOM.

Much as the apologising for swearing when broadcasting football annoys me too, it is purely to prevent the broadcaster getting in trouble with OFCOM because bad language before the watershed breaches guidelines, always has been.

Sancho losing his head.

Don't know what the Andorran players said to him, but he needs to calm down over half time or get taken off.

1 minute ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said:

2 absolutely pointless bookings for England.

But correct calls from the ref that weaker ones wouldn't have necessarily given.

Fair play to her.

At Manor Farm today there was 1 red card, could have been 2 more and the manager had to have 3 players stop him fighting the ref at the end.

@Port Said Red

They're away at Almondsbury on the 30th