Marina's Rolls Royce

I'm going with yet another thread that is surely  covered in all the others confirming what a shite football club/team/management/owners we have?

2 hours ago, Northern Red said:

You going to do this every week?

I'm not worried about being naked and being aroused is fine- the "temporary" physical arousal as a result of manipulation of my genitals is ,of course, more of a concern as I get older.

It's an odd thing to vote on though.

I hardly think that going out tonight is the sort of example to set.

11 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Dunno about that last assertion. Murray made 40 appearances for a promotion-bound side, but Coppell next season didn't want him. Louis made 27 appearances for Coventry, then a league above us, swerved the Tinnion managerial car-crash but then returned to a revitalised Gary Johnson side that got promoted.

I'd say both made reasonable career choices there and both went on to enjoy lengthy and successful times at City after deciding to return. Which incidentally disproves all those posters who say "never go back" when talking about players or managers. 

I think that Carey going on to be the all time BCFC player and Scotty being the legend he is and employed forever makes for a very very good decision in coming back. The point being is that the likes of Fam etc perhaps would have had a better career by staying as opposed to chasing a bigger pay cheque. 

Then again,  Scott and Webster and a few others may well disagree!!

1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said:

Or an Ecky Thump one like Maynard himself.

TBH the thing that really annoyed me was the made up charge that City fans attacked his mother in the stand and threw a bottle at her. Something witnessed by no one whatsoever.

 

"No one whatsoever" has witnessed a great deal of terrible Lansdown shenanigans on these very pages.

But getting back to my earlier point- there have been a number of good players at BCFC who have  refused to sign, wound down their contract, only to take a career nose dive . The likes of Carey and Murray made a better choice when discovering the greener grass was harder to mow.

21 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Fam sort of switched off when he knew his future wasn't here and cruised to the end of his time here, but at least he didn't badmouth the club and slander fans like Maynard. We got decent service out of him for three-and-a-half seasons, I bear him no ill will. As an African, there's no reason why he should buy into the Bristol/Cardiff rivalry. 

I'd completely forgotten about the Bristol accent thing with Maynard- what did his son end up with?  McTaffney?

1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Odd booing Joe Bryan in my opinion. 

Some fans act like jilted lovers when players leave to further their careers.

Joe Bryan- agree 100%

Players leaving to further their careers like Maynard ,Fam and Massengo- it's just a tiny weeny bit funny when they don't especially when they find that BCFC was their finest moment.

51 minutes ago, Galley is our king said:

I said the performances were comedic.

I really didn't find losing or the performances comedic but that's just a personal view. 

50 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

Liam Manning better start getting things together I’d guess then ?

Yes, I agree. But the decision on his future (in the absence of sustained progress) is not mine or yours to make and I don't take dismissals personally- you should try it!

48 minutes ago, Galley is our king said:

I will though be honest when we play shit.

I suspect that for you- it depends who's in charge

44 minutes ago, Galley is our king said:

Actually what was comedy gold was our performances against QPR and Sheffield Wednesday.

Funny how you made no comment about those games.

We all hope things improve (we are all city fans after all), but things need to improve very quickly or the crowd will turn.

Big day Saturday me thinks

 

Well, if you think BCFC losing is comedy then I think that says everything about your so say support for this club. The 'can't let go' club are very funny. 

33 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Blimey, a few of you belting out Cyndi’s Lauper’s “true colours” on this thread.  None of this thinly veiled lie of “I quite liked Nige…” I’ve seen on other threads!!!

Let it all out.

I started a thread in Nov 22 entitled 'Pearson Out'- simply as I didn't think he'd take us anywhere as he subsequently proved to all the world- I never said anything remotely insulting about him.. Shame that supporting revisionist history has become your thing. Let it all out, Dave, but try and keep it real.

I also said NP did good things in the same way as SO'D did- taking over a difficult situation. I thought he was broadly professional but dismissed for the right reasons

6 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said:

“Our Liam” the gift that keeps giving . . . us nothing.

Please do stop.

Haha! So anyone who didn't want Pearson long term is now a Manning worshipper!!! I think he's done some good as most have at some point but I couldnt give a shite whether he's the manager or not just like Pearson- it's about results and where we are at the end of the season. I'll support him until he's proved beyond any doubt that he is not up for the role.

12 Championship teams have dismissed their Manager this season. 13 in League 1 and 10 in L2. It happens but SL has never been trigger happy.

P.s I think Brian Tinnion has done a great job. Steve Lansdown is a good owner, built a solid Championship club with his money not "ours" and we've been very lucky to have him. 

'Our Nige'  the gift that keeps on giving.

Pure comedy gold. Please don't stop.

2 hours ago, RollsRoyce said:

Well the ground is not within the top 30  capacity ranked  in the England/Wales set-up, so that is hardly "best" is it, it is only 16th in the Championship in terms of capacity. The academy has done very well, with minutes played hugely boosted by Vyner and O'Leary. Our recent sales were for players who did not join as academy products. Still, it is decent, but a long way behind Leeds, Southampton, Boro and a few others. You need to go and visit the set up at Southampton, or Leicester. We were far behind, and yes we have made progress. But only to get to a Championship standard, not Prem. 

"One of the best" suggests we are better set up than others, we are not. We have a good solid Championship set up, but it is certainly not one of the best. It is not the worst either, QPR and Rotherham for example are lagging, but then Derby and Reading have Cat 1 academies and modern grounds in L1. 

We have a good Championship set up in my view. 

 

Even a mention of Reading suggests you may well have missed the point. Reading are missing the points too- best to pay your players and HMRC. Derby entered into administration and are now in League 1 so not a great comparison irrespective of Cat status.

And capacity is not the issue when discussing grounds whereas quality and general facilities are. 

In terms of Academy, well it's pretty much splitting hairs. Alex joined age 16 and "In December 2019, Scott signed a pre-contract agreement with Championship side Bristol City.^[4] Having initially linked up with the club's academy, Scott signed his first professional contract with Bristol City in March 2021"

Semenyo was signed as a 17 yr old from College and developed by BCFC. In our first team we have Pring(from age 17/18), O'Leary,Bell, Conway and Vyner so that's an impressive result from home grown. 

BRISTOL CITY are the leading team in England’s top two divisions this season when it comes to fielding homegrown players.

The CIES has ranked teams in 60 leagues around the world according to the percentage of domestic league minutes played by ‘club-trained’ footballers during the current season (up to November 15th). Leeds are 4th.

Southampton/leeds/Leicester are above us on most levels but there aren't too many other clubs which are better placed in terms of overall set up.

36 minutes ago, RollsRoyce said:

How do you know that? Based on what? What criteria are you using to claim that? So this season, of the 24 teams, where would you place our set-up? 

I base this on our ground, our facilities including the HPC, our fan base, our academy, our ownership, stability and also the fact that we have one of the highest proportion of home grown first team players in Europe. 

if you ask  our position is then that's different- currently 12th and could go higher or lower.

Results or League position is a different subject to our set up.

6 hours ago, Superjack said:

The Lansdowns aren't cooks. 

They couldn't even operate a ****ing microwave.

and yet here we are with one of the best set-ups outside of the Premier League

9 hours ago, Natchfever said:

Before he joined City hed played in Chelseas 1st team and England U21s.

 

2 sub appearances v Liverpool and Leicester. with less than 30 mins combined.

He was not England U21 but had played in the U19's until he joined BCFC after which he was promoted to U21 in Sept 2016.

But facts aren't your strong point!

11 minutes ago, JBFC II said:

Intrigued as to how many loans out the door come with a comment from the manager?

I rarely read OS reports on this sort of stuff but I can’t imagine it’s a common occurrence?

But he has commented and I posted his comment above. The fact that @Natchfever chooses to ignore the fact is par for the agenda course.

7 minutes ago, RobImps said:

I've no doubt he'll have a terrific loan and will score/create plenty - he'll have to much for that level in my opinion

And good luck to him.

My issue is I'd rather he got minutes with us this season, as raw as he is, he's honest and direct, I'd rather him than Cornick, Mehmeti & Mebuda.

I think that Cornick is better served in the first team than Yeboah as Yeboah needs more time and experience. I have no idea about Mebude as he played for about 5 minutes then something like half an hour (whatever) but certainly not enough to truly judge, surely? Mehmeti- I don't really get this player.

Your point was that Yeboah going on loan to Bath is sending the wrong message and I completely disagree in that I think it gives him a chance to build again.

1 minute ago, Natchfever said:

Comms pretty poor from the club again imo.

Whether fans are for or against the loan, some comment from Manning would have probably made this thread a whole lot shorter.

 “He’s had a real quick rise to success, then again he’s had a bit of a challenging period at the minute, which is fine. It doesn’t change what we think of him. We know his qualities, our job is to coach and support him,” Manning said.

“His job, as he has done, and I can’t stress that enough, is turn up and work as hard as I can everyday and I have to say, he’s a credit to himself because his attitude is terrific.”

Just now, RobImps said:

Doesn't send a good message to the academy.

I think that the academy has sent enough good messages already.

And Bath City has been a very good club for a number of our best academy players "on loan". Yeboah was introduced to the first team either as a result of need or as a point- my guess is the former as I dont think Nige played games. He showed glimpses of good potential but nothing more. A loan is brilliant for him and I hope he does really well then has another go at BS3 at some point next season.

So Bergkamp states: "It is still a dream of mine to develop players, run an academy, and use all our knowledge and experience to get promoted.

“Not with a foreign billionaire who puts in a lot of money just to go up quickly. If you have a group of former top footballers together then you just start lower. I am convinced that with a club in League One, with real football knowledge, you can get promoted to the Championship within five years, 10 years at most."

After a failed bid to buy Wycombe Wanderers so time ago, he's back looking in the lower leagues.

So in order for many to see their dream come true  and be rid of the current ownership then all we need is to get relegated and then hopefully we'll be back up in 5-10 years.

I think I'll stick with supporting Lansdown.

2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Need to calm down a bit.  It’s one game (two games) after two better ones.  Some balance needs to be found.

See Dave- I'll quote stuff you get bang on right  (imo) as well as stuff you don't(imo) . It's definitely about balance  which otib has lost atm. 

The OP ( @old_eastender) started a thread a couple of weeks back about our possible relegation. Now it's one about sacking the new manager and appointing a player.

Providing one doesn't take it too seriously- it's great fun reading and endlessly entertaining.

10 hours ago, Bat Fastard said:

You have maybe used the word “proven” without actual proof in the previous post. I did not see a direct comparison with Tins in your comparison.  He excelled as a player (in my opinion) went to Spain to get experience in developing young players. Tried management but did not have the right aptitude but excelled as a recruiter and developer of football talent. He is now vastly experienced and entitled to have his own opinions and to judge others in the football industry. That does not make him always right but his track record shows he is frequently right.

Completely agree .

My personal opinion is that Brian Tinnion has done really well for BCFC and has been instrumental in changing the reliance on new signings to a pathway for home grown talent. The first team squad  for several years is testament to this.

It's funny that a number of posters have vented their spleen about a simple predictable and inevitable change of manager as it may involve a rebuild yet , at the same time, are demanding a much much bigger rebuild for the entire club, ownership and staff.  Comedy gold.

16 hours ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

Knowle bread? I'll have some of what you're having .....

Knowle 'bread'- probably sourdough these days . Get it at Safeways in the precinct.

16 hours ago, Alessandro said:

Difference between you and I is you’re happy with the basic burger and I’m not.

It's the only thing on the menu at the moment- I never said I'm "happy" these are your made up words to support your agenda. I said "I'm relatively ok". 

As for saying I'm uncomfortable being challenged- I think we both know that's your bs. I never hide, go missing  or back down if I believe something unlike some- it's the best bit of otib. This is an anonymous forum so there's no walk of shame although clearly some see it as a alternative reality popularity contest. For me it's fun.

Please explain in as much detail as possible how City get promotion this season or next or the one after? Because this is something I can't clearly see but you obviously can otherwise you wouldn't be making the statements you do. And it's not about what City shouldn't be doing - it's about what they should. Explain.

4 hours ago, Alessandro said:

hence the apathy?

I suppose you may wish to see it as apathy. You clearly are on a points mission from your original post. With my views I'm easy game for a few 'likes' etc 

I said some time ago on numerous posts/threads that after Jet left- I'd no longer get 'attached' to a footballer at BCFC. The same goes for managers- after Cotts.

It seems you have a problem if someone doesnt get posessed with incadescent rage if e lose or euphoria if we in. Maybe you don't go to matches or aren't a Bristolian?

Im Southmead born,  Knowle bread and have lived in Bristol pretty much all of my life. I've supported BCFC post Dicks so never witnessed top flight. I started back in Div 4 Terry Cooper when Marina Dolman took me to my first ever game at BS3 so at least half of my support is lower league. I don't have great expectations of Premiership football although I believed it for one season under Gary and one under Lee. Since then anyone expecting promotion with what we have is dreaming.

I'm relatively ok about where we are as a club and really hope and dream of better but not as a matter of entitlement.

If I order a burger and expect a fillet then I'm the delusional one not the person serving me.

1 hour ago, Dr Balls said:

Why appoint somebody to the most important role in your business and then accept that he is going to have “learn on the job”? Do you see any sign that he is learning from his mistakes? Or even accepts that he has made any?

The recent league form, even given the 2 wins against Middlesbrough and Southampton is woeful, plus our centre forwards have pretty much stopped scoring from open play since Manning has taken over. The service to them is so lacking, and they have to do so much running and chasing for minimal reward. If I was Conway or Wells, I would be seriously hacked off, because the system being played is so awful for a forward.

And then, assuming that Manning achieves the bare minimum this season (not getting relegated) we are led to believe that in the summer, JL and SL are going to offer him the proceeds of the nest egg to bring in more of “his” players to someone who shows little sign of being able to improve them.

It all feels like an accident waiting to happen, although it won’t be an accident, it will instead be a self-inflicted hobbling of the club by those supposedly “in charge”.

Thanks for the heads-up.

We'll just have to wait and see what happens next.

47 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said:

What do you think Manning has done really well so far?

I think that he has intermittently got his team playing at a level I haven't seen in years.