Marina's Rolls Royce
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8 minutes ago, Alessandro said:
Ah I see we’re not taking the rough with the smooth very well…
Really- you can do so much better.
Ask me specifically for what you want my thoughts on and I'll answer unless you were just looking to score points?
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15 minutes ago, Alessandro said:
@Marina's Rolls Royce any thoughts?
Absolutely I've got thoughts- on just about everything but if you can please be much more specific , I can give you a much more specific answer.
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3 hours ago, Olé said:
It’s improving but Moldova suffers from a fair amount of day to day corruption, often from Russian backed officials, gangsters and police, despite having a pro-EU government and people. Bit of a shame as the people are lovely and Chisinău is nicer (greener, cleaner and less chaotic) than Bucharest.
Great story about Ion (or Ivan). You’ve already got me searching for builders in London called Testimitanu.
I'm not sure it ended well! I've just sent a message as someone has asked to get a shirt signed next time Ivan is visiting. I'll update when I hear back.
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I'm still in touch with Ivan via my Mrs who was friendly with his wife.
Ivan asked me to go with him and a friend to the Millwall game on NYD but I was off to Cornwall ( and really pleased I didn't). He watched from the Lansdown stand as a normal punter although he's mates with Scotty.
He ended up as Director of Moldovan football but got the heave- ho although there was massive corruption in who got the jobs. He worked with his brother for a while as a builder in London. He comes to Bristol quite regularly and remains a really big fan of the club.
I remember him telling me some 9-10 years ago that BCFC really needed to have more home grown players because they'll always give that extra beyond talent alone. Which is why I don't get some of the Sam Bell stuff on here!
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@W-S-M Seagull talks about getting personal???
Pot kettle black
Have a bun- you really will feel so much happier and happiness is something you must surely welcome?
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3 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:
With the greatest of respect mate you're derailing the thread. Of course that is your purpose because you don't want the things I've brought up to be discussed.
No point in derailing after the train crash.
Have a bun instead.
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3 minutes ago, Galley is our king said:
Well hello, missed you at the weekend.
This is though a football forum. How did you think we played on Saturday?
Glad you missed me but I have no idea who you are- were we meant to meet up?
I thought the football forum played very well indeed on Saturday.
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I loved that the keepers used to take Wendy around for a stroll. People used to give her buns which they said was unhealthy but she lived a long long life.
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It's a strange one. Apparently no one wanted him in the first place but also didn't want Mowbray.
I listened on Talk Sport earlier where they did an interview with a journalist/podcaster/Milan (?or Madrid)expert and Sunderland fanatic who stated that the owner "may" not have access to his father's money ( former Marseille owner) as it's in a Trust and he "may" have bought Sunderland just to gain experience prior to making a new bid for Marseille.
He also stated that Mowbray's journey to the play off's last season was an accident as the club didn't want to get to The Premier League and the fact that they got to the final was not what they wanted.
Conspiracy theories are numerous in football as we see on these pages but the idea of a club not wanting to get into the Prem even if just for one season is beyond bonkers.
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1 hour ago, Davefevs said:
You are taking someone’s post from the past and trying to throw it back in their face, because they might’ve posted something at the time that might no longer be the case now.
I know this very well!
As for "childish" , I don't see you saying the same thing when you are quoted on something you have got 'bang on'. Learn to take the rough with the smooth, Dave.
And yes, I'll continue quote something that someone says particularly when it's relevant to an ongoing usually negative narrative in exactly the same way as it happens to me. I just don't get upset about it like some.
You are fully aware that I was and am fully supportive of what has transpired in respect of Nige being replaced and this really goes against the grain of populist opinion on otib. What a dull place if everyone were to agree with every narrative.
1 hour ago, steviestevieneville said:Oh yes. A poster on a forum who will delve into a persons posting history to prove a point . A sad pathetic individual who been proved to be a a character assassin & a fabricator of truths . Our very own henbury gas
Same old same old and you just can't help yourself despite putting me on ignore something I've never personally done in 10 years . Your inability to put forward a cohesive argument and just resort to name calling is your forum identity. The ultimate position in a failed exchange is to call someone gas .
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This is a game we should win and I expect us to lose.
So we will probably win.
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11 hours ago, Davefevs said:
How come you bold certain bits and not the others?
What a sad, desperate poster you are.
Mainly to highlight certain bits when pressing a point/statement/opinion and not the others. You regularly do the same, Dave. Perhaps that makes us both sad and desperate?
It's just a forum full of differing opinions such as mine in support of the Lansdowns and the excellent work which Brian Tinnion had done for over a decade.
In truth, I'm pretty happy how things are turning out because I agreed with a lot of the statements made about getting more out of this current squad and that appears to be becoming the case.
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1 hour ago, Davefevs said:
Yeah….and when you quote, make sure you quote in full, make sure you quote the context if it’s in reply to someone, and then I’ll happily have a grown-up discussion about it.
Never afraid to admit I’m wrong. Never have been.
Never afraid to change my opinion either. Never have been.
I “love” the satisfaction you get from trawling through people’s posts and posting them on here. Or do you catalogue them in the desperate attempt that you might be able to say - but you said this Dave in November or you were “wrong” when you posted this Dave.
Fill your boots, if that’s what you get your kicks from.
Says more about you than me!
OK Dave- you did indeed say " I will not support the hierarchy". It is not out of context- that's not my thing. Also, it's weird that people may think I spend ages on trolling through past posts. My background is in research so it takes me less than a few minutes to check on where I remember a post which is entirely contrary to a new post- like when someone is backtracking on a previous categoric statement.
One can , of course, start a new thread to make light of a previous "but" thread . Fair play- warm tummy feeling..
However- just over two weeks ago here is what you said and it is not out of context (copy and pasted) and you clearly had very serious doubts about LM in comparison to the previous manager and had little leeway for those who felt NP was right to have been dismissed or Brian Tinnion's role in that (these comments are from one thread alone). We all get it wrong Dave but it's not fair to use your position as the most regular poster with 60,000 posts and virtually 200 posts per week to belittle others who don't see it your way!
Manning 17 / 15 * 30 (games under him) = 34 plus the 21 points that he started with = 55 with those players back.
But one less win is a regression, especially against an expectation of progression.
But I can’t be arsed to put too much effort into the debate tonight!
For a headcoach who wants his teams to control possession / dominate the ball, we have a funny way of showing it. We actually have less possession than under Nige. In recent games we also seem incapable of even knocking it around the backline.It reminded me of very few Nige team performances once he got the wasters out in summer of 2021. The worry for me is that we’ve had quite a few already from Manning’s teams and he’s only been here 3 months.
Some of that will be embedding his style, but it actually feels like we started to feel his improvements and we are now going backwards.
I don’t have a warm, fuzzy feeling at the mo’, but nor am I impatient. But there is a helluva lot to critique currently. It certainly isn’t rosy.
We didn’t scout / identify Scott per se, we got “handed him” in effect.
As it stands and we can debate the theory….LM is devaluing Conway to the external market and devaluing his use to Bristol City.
The true definition of a shit sandwich.
We have a head-coach who after 2 games here acknowledged that he needed to work on patterns to create those types of chances for TC, whilst also trying to develop his “short game”.
A few games later having not found a way to service Tommy like he said he would work-on, he’s then saying Tommy is gonna have to get used to working off different chances. That’s fair enough in one regard, but an early marker for me of paying a bit of “lip-service” to being able to adapt to what resources he has. And re “short game” what improvements have we seen there that trade-off to the chances bit? None really.
The less goals Tommy scores, the less he is worth. That’s a simple hypothesis.
The less goals Tommy scores, together with his increased frustrations at lack of service, the less chance he has of staying. That’s a simple hypothesis too. The counter is that nobody else wants him, but we have less effective player in our ranks.
I think you are making excuses for Manning. I think you’re trying to make it about Pearson as a defence.
If you think it’s fine under him, great, explain why, don’t keep dragging it into a Nige v Liam debate.
I think you’re misconstruing my thoughts as being anti-Manning (because I was a fan of Nige). I’m not. I’m merely responding to what I’ve witnessed under LM. If you think I’m missing something, say so, but to keep trying to frame mine and others views because I liked Nige is getting tiring. If this was 3 games in, yes, that would be wrong, but it’s 18 games. It’s more than enough to spot trends.
But…even though it was far from perfect attacking under Nige, it has got worse under Manning. I can’t ignore that. That is not to say it won’t / can’t change, just merely observing the current “results”
If I was to be really selective (but I’m not, I try to balance) and ignore:
- Chances from set-pieces
- Chances from high-press turnovers in the opposition final third
our open attacking play under LM borders on a huge regression. That goes against the grain of appointing someone like Manning. He’s minimising opportunities to counter-attack, preferring to start attacks in a structured way, but not getting results. I feel it is worthy of discussion, especially after 15 (18) games.
I posted at the time of Nige’s sacking who would undertake the roles he undertook as “Football Manager”? Who would backfill his experience?
What we got back was a new structure. It really covered how they replaced Phil Alexander rather than how they replaced Nigel Pearson. I can only assume that between Liam Manning and Brian Tinnion they thought they could cover what Nige did. The problem (in my eyes) is that Nigel worked holistically across the football side of the club and we won’t replace that with the skillsets of LM and BT, nor have they got the experience of Nige either. I don’t see Tins as a
(I’ll accept I might be naive) but I don’t see him as the deep thinker either. I’m glad we aren’t having to negotiate FFP and having to somehow remain competitive on a relative shoestring.
Nige handed over a wonderful position to continue the progress. It is in danger of being filed in the bin.
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3 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:
Which is completely untrue.
I posted plenty of positive comments about the performances against West Ham and Forest and Boro and then I called the victory vs Soton as the complete performance.
Also given Manning praise for adapting in his interviews and for adapting his overload of information and his style and for going back to a back 4.
That doesn't suit your narrative tho.
OK
Re-post them and for every post you repeat - I'll post two of yours that aren't!!!
It's like starting with a 3-0 lead at kick off!
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3 hours ago, Davefevs said:
…and so what if you have flip-flopped.
It happens all the time on OTIB.
I find it weird when people “go early” and then refuse to change based on evidence presented, for fear of their pride taking a hit.
At the end of the day, without the various types of opinion we have, this forum would be a shadow of what it is.
Funny old game. You have every right to change your opinion .
Especially when you get it wrong, Dave.
In the apparent unlikely event that the Lansdown's and BT have actually made a good choice of new Manager then no doubt you will retract your statement that " I will not support the hierarchy" and several others which I'm happy to remind you of
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16 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:
Strange post.
I didn't see us beating Boro and Southampton after us going 6 games without a win so yes I did think the season was all but over.
Those two wins have changed the dynamic and have put us back into contention which I'm delighted with.
I'm not sure what you want me to do here? Do you want me to criticise us winning 2 in a row? It's almost like you don't want me to post positive things.
The last two wins have put us on course for my pre season expectations. Now we just need to keep competing. None of that back 3 possession bs.
I'm still very critical of how the club has been run. The two runs of 4 and 6 games without a win may well cost us come the end of the season.
If there is something to criticise I'll criticise it, if there is something to praise, ill praise it. It's a simple concept MMR.
If there is something to criticise I'll criticise it, if there is something to praise, I'll praise it but so far you and your posts only tick the criticise column.
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3 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:
Is this genuinely a reference to Tut's restoration of the pantheon of Egyptian gods after his predecessor's shift to monotheistic sun worship?
If so, magnificent.
It is now.
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14 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:
I want us to finish as high as we possibly can until its mathematically impossible for us to finish in that position.
The expectations from the club was set. My own pre season expectations were to be top 10 and going into the last few games with a chance of play offs. I'm now starting to think it may just be possible.
But you've been telling us that the season is over for weeks now -along with some pretty damning comments about our club.
You must be the greatest flip flop since Tutankhamun.
Less than two weeks ago @W-S-M Seagull wrote:
"And this is what makes me feel sick to the stomach.
Fair enough they wanted rid of Nige. But they totally cocked up on his replacement. They said they wanted a head coach who could come in and take thus group of players forward. To better coach them blah blah blah. To continue upon the work of Pearson. I'd have got right behind that.
We have a decent squad of players. Whilst many laughed at the clubs claims we should be challenging and I did to some extent, I also believed that the right person could get this squad competing for the top 6.
But then we went for Manning. It was clear Manning would not suit the players we have. We've heard all this stuff about how we were looking for someone to play pressing front foot football and that just isn't Manning ball.
So then we are left with two possibilities, the club didn't know what they were getting with Manning or that they did know and they decided to rip the plan just as that plan was coming to fruition in order to start a new plan.
The situation we are now in is that we basically have to go down the road of ripping up this decent squad to rebuild it with players that suit Manning with no guarantee that will work and that's what gives me an uneasy feeling. If this goes wrong, which early evidence suggests it may then we're going to be spending another few years rebuilding the squad to shape it into a decent squad again.
I think the frustrating thing is, it's a very long time since we've appointed a manager where the squad is already in place. He had a great opportunity and up until this point he's blew it. He didn't need to come in and rebuild the squad. Didn't need to develop youth, didn't need to build a culture etc etc. It was all bloody there for him. And because he's failed (until now) and hes their guy he has to be a success so now its "he needs his own players" "he needs a pre season"
Its so demoralising. "
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5 hours ago, Galley is our king said:
I think you must also be deluded if you make such ludicrous statements..... squad yes, TEAM NO!!
Please check the TEAM available to play against Cardiff and then have a word with yourself....including the subs!
Would LM have done any better on that day with that TEAM?
20 hours ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:Surely you must also now feel that Manning and his players are equally as deluded?
Manning is doing a good job with the same squad as the one he inherited and I never thought Tinnion or JL were deluded. Perhaps it's just those who can't accept positive change that are truly deluded?
Do you struggle to actually read a post before making such ludicrous and wholly inaccurate statements???
Awkward for you...
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On 05/02/2024 at 08:43, Sir Geoff said:
Sadly, I genuinely think that JL and Tins are deluded enough to think that we should be top 6.
Surely you must also now feel that Manning and his players are equally as deluded?
Manning is doing a good job with the same squad as the one he inherited and I never thought Tinnion or JL were deluded. Perhaps it's just those who can't accept positive change that are truly deluded?
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13 minutes ago, Davefevs said:
Was almost the first thing I noticed when I walked to my seat.
Walking across the pitch to your seat sets a really bad example unless you are the Manager.
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14 minutes ago, pillred said:
Well, what were your thoughts? to say I'm excited would be an understatement, yes he played a few minutes but showed a cool football brain did not panic and showed glimpses to me that we have uncovered a diamond in the rough.
13 minutes ago, MelksRed said:Agree...seems Memeti type of player but more consolidated, panic free and sure of himself. Roll on Sat.
Thoughts?
" Mbude" and "Memeti" have a lot still to learn but having players around them like Nakki Wales will help.
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1 hour ago, Sheltons Army said:
Congratulations -
the first 🛎 end to start this tonight
you never know, it might just catch on
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42 minutes ago, frenchred said:
Put us out of our misery and take Bell off please never been good enough and never will be
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So, at this moment, where do you actually WANT us to finish this season?
in Football Chat
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Manning: I like him , disappointed that he seems to have stuttered when it matters but I wasn't expecting promotion whosoever was in charge. I don't see this current squad a Premiership team in waiting but certainly capable of better as some results have indicated. I think Liam will do better as he learns on the job, develops his way of playing and squad and if he doesn't then we'll find another manager.
Club's decision making? Broadly pretty solid- I'm a big fan of Steve Lansdown and pretty happy where we are in terms of stability, financial and facilities. We are a pretty solid Championship team. Hope for better but there isn't a team in the Championship whose fans don't dream of of promotion at the start of every season- it's why we support.
Chances of promotion "as set by the club". Every single season someone within BCFC will state that the aim is promotion and it always makes me smile but it will be a cold day in hell when someone comes out and says " we're hoping for a good mid-table finish".