Marina's Rolls Royce

@Jerseybean

Maybe this can be revisited in your MDT on 1st April? We play away at Plymouth! May Liam have Flowered or will his journey be in a leaking ship?

7 hours ago, Jerseybean said:

 

 

 

Southampton was the original departure point for the Mayflower

The Pilgrims left Southampton on 5 August, 1620 to embark on their historic transatlantic voyage.

They were on two ships - the iconic Mayflower and the lesser-known Speedwell - and boarded on the south coast of England set for a new life in America.

The Speedwell had leaked on her voyage from Holland but was able to be repaired at Southampton’s extensive ship building facilities near the port’s West Quay.
 
 

Due to the unseaworthiness, the Speedwell twice had to return to port having travelled from Holland to accompany the Mayflower. As a result, The Mayflower had to go it alone and took a number of the Speedwell's passengers and cargo.

It actually departed from Plymouth in Devon on 16th September 1620 some 4 weeks after it left Southampton.

FACT!

sorry Southampton- you can't claim this epic moment in history and I hope that also goes for tomorrow.

2 hours ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

 

So after not bothering, instead prefer to attack and belittle the fans who did bother to attend and label them as sycophants or as others have called them Bristol Sport employees, BS bots, coach 1, happy clappers and a whole range of other insults and claim they are not representative of the fan base, as the views expressed last night do not match the mouthy few who dominate the post count on this forum. Perhaps its this forum that is not representative, whilst it may have 20k members, not that many regularly post and people I ask if they come on here, say can't be bothered as its so negative.

 

OTIB is entirely representative of OTIB. I think you may have the number of otib members wrong at 20,000 I think it's much less. And let's face it- unless they are  an otib supporter then they could be a gas head, visiting rival, voyeur, spy or troll etc. There are no barriers to entry.

Outrageous indignation on here is invariably not replicated in the wider ST fan base as calls for protests usually prove.

On a match day there maybe circa 300-400 people on this site which given the amount of ST holders and BCFC members ( which is c.20,000) is pretty tiny and not entirely representative.

8 hours ago, Davefevs said:

I think you are right.  

Petty and absurd.  “Unfair to Nige”, as big a fan as I was, I care more about Bristol City, and they made their chances of achieving success harder. It doesn’t help LM over the next 10-12 games either having a thin squad either.  Does it?  “Unfair to LM” too.

Thoughts?

Ok- here goes, Dave.

I don't think that NP's sacking or the withholding of the full transfer funds was either petty or absurd. I think it was considered.

No new Manager on the planet is going to be 100% happy with all the inherited squad- particularly if said new man has a different formation and style. Since Jan, NP was given the ability to (help) sign several players including TGH, Cornick,Mehmeti , McCrory, Roberts and Knight ( any others?) and it involved hard cash. TGH was 'bought' not as an experiment but with a get out clause. Good business.

I remember NP having a pop at JL- everyone loved it but I thought he had just signed his own P45.

Leaving nest egg funds for a new man for next season was sensible and considered.

Dismissing Nige was also sensible and considered imo. I went through the following reactions : Shock, confusion, mild annoyance, acceptance and then delight.

Your own reaction has been one of general outrage and I understand that as you have been an utter NP stalwart throughout his tenure- you thought he was the answer to a long standing problem and I didn't.

So we look at our club through very different lenses: I totally believe that NP should have gone and that the Lansdown family are great for BCFC .... and you don't. Most people on OTIB agree with you but perhaps the wider fan base don't. I still don't understand how NP has become a cult on here and generally meh at BS3.

8 hours ago, Ian M said:

Top 6 was never the expectation for this squad.

Comfortable mid-table, pushing top half is.

I think it’s clear the Lansdowns had a personality clash with Nigel.

If you have a difficult employee and he isn’t exceeding expectations, why keep them?

So, for Nige, the target was promotion.

For Liam, it isn’t. (That’s not to say he won’t try or achieve it)

It was only in the immediate aftermath of Nige being removed that they spoke of challenging “at the top end” of the table, every interview situation since, starting from the Friday after, they have talked about progression instead, no hard targets.

I believe that they had decided that NP had served his purpose and done the job he was paid to do and were never going to renew his contract but I agree that there was clearly a clash. I think the health issue brought forward their decision by half a season.

I thought the timing was off but in hindsight believe they made the right decision at the right time. 

I find Liam Manning a breath of fresh air and any nest egg support they give him is fantastic news. The views of some that this is in some way unfair on NP is, quite frankly, absurd.

He wasn't crying.

He had a pied wagtail in his eye.

1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

I didn’t see Nigel the Seagull on Saturday, anyone see him?

Fortunately he's flocked off now. Which reminds me- In Lidl's freezer section you can get Ostrich steaks for £3.49.

2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Enough of Nige.  Now Liam Manning.

 

Amen to that.

6 hours ago, tsgujdybh said:

Are you serious??  We were awful in the 1st half.  Manning was incredibly lucky that TGH scored an absolute screamer out of nowhere and then , to top it off, we won (and scored) a rare penalty!  Had we not somehow found ourselves in front, despite having created absolutely nothing, when the half time whistle was blown, they'd have been booed off without a doubt.  The atmosphere could easily have turned nasty - LM was a lucky boy today without question!

Thanks Nigel

9 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Gary Johnson used to do the fist pump at the end when we won. Am sure.

I'll rephrase, when we won the single fist pump when he went down the tunnel. He punched the air.

He was actually aiming for @Robbored 

2 hours ago, Bristol Rob said:

He isn't that convincing a subject when faced with a microphone.

You're not that convincing when faced with a post.

52 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

So play badly vs Coventry and win = bad.

Play badly Vs Boro and win = good. 

Very bizarre. 

 

Who cares about Coventry? A win's a win and that's not my point.

What is bizarre is your overall reaction to NP being sacked and your armageddon reaction which is less bizarre than infantile.

Just now, W-S-M Seagull said:

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We won at home against Coventry and people were very critical of our performance. Lets have some balance. We won again today despite not playing well. So I'm not sure where the change is? 

The change is that I no longer have to listen to your bleating on about Nige the Messiah. 

Works for me.

27 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

The most negative first half since Pulis. 

Delighted to be 2 in front at the break, and all the more delighted with the 3 points, but if this is 'playing football on the front foot' then I have clearly misunderstood the term.

Nige was sacked. I just think you need to get over it and support the new Coach. Perhaps even give him 1 transfer window (as opposed to six) and more than 1 home game (which we won) AND had  8 shots on target which is unusual in most matches over the past 2 1/2 years.

17 minutes ago, David Brent said:

Well done Liam and all of his players on 3 big points. 

See- wasn't so hard for you.....

Excellent to see a new young coach making the most of his squad and winning at home . Makes a refreshing change.

The Memorial Stadium is without doubt the best experience.

On 3/5/14

44 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Alex Scott was “guaranteed” PL bound, I think for Ayman we saw him as a longer term City player….if that makes sense?

It makes complete sense. Sort of like an Andy  Llewellyn/Louis Carey type player who would likely stay with us doing a good job yet not be so good that they go elsewhere ( and before the pedants say about Coventry- it was fleeting).

1 hour ago, Leabrook said:

Good to see the man in charge doing some coaching instead of watching 

Can't believe no one had a big chomp on the juicy fat worm at the end of your line.

Always an honour to get an International call up even if it's only for Scotland U21. 

The fact that he chose to stay at the HPC and train fully with the new set up has less to do with LM and everything to do with TC or his advisers making a strategic decision. IMO, it wasn't about Liam or club before country- it was a very sensible choice if he wants to get back into form within the Championship. He'll want to get back on fire for his future career whether that's with us or elsewhere.

Meanwhile- Sam Bell for England? He'd have been mad to turn down that opportunity and now has two caps and an assist. 

Everyone's a winner in these scenarios.

5 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said:

If my boss was hovering all the time they'd get short shrift, people have to be left alone to do their job 

There's always the possibility that LM asked for the input ? The possibility that it's moral support? The possibility that it was planned  by all parties? The possibility that BT isn't always "lurking in the background like an Ofsted Inspector?

But, hey, let's not let an alternative possibility get in the way of a good ol' bit of Tinman bashing- the scoundrel.

He didn't say "to be fair" once and I think he looks mainly like himself.

10 hours ago, cotswoldred2 said:

Best thing is lie low for a few weeks...things move fast on here , memories are short.

6 hours ago, Ian M said:

I dunno, I saw someone refer to @Marina's Rolls Royce as the "Matt Smith is Awful" guy last week 

Yes @Ian M- it reminds me of the "one goat"  story.

Meanwhile ...memories of LJ are definitely not short .

Which really is kinda ironic.