Marina's Rolls Royce

4 minutes ago, Harry said:

However, here’s the thing. None of those other managers were brought in on the proviso that the players they have at their disposal are promotion material. 

Agreed. But we know that statement for what it it is/was. I've been quite clear on what I believe happened and it's pointless for anyone ( not aimed at you) to forever state that anyone at BCFC genuinely believed that the squad as it is , is promotion material. Jon told a corporate lie and Nigel got sacked for other reasons. End of. It's just a case that, unlike the majority on here- I don't care and largely agree with the sacking but just not the timing.

10 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said:

Lucky you.

But why had Pearson chosen to speak to you rather than me?

God knows.

3 minutes ago, bearded_red said:

My ‘first impressions post Nige’ are that was absolute ******* rubbish, worst football we’ve played in 18 months.  
 

We haven’t looked worse then the shit teams in this league for a long while, we did today.

Abysmal.

Classic.

Deluded, wrong and bitter but classic.

My favourite post of the day.

28 minutes ago, Spreadsheet Boy said:

 

Tonight is not a time for anyone to say “told you so” or start making excuses or suggesting the plan was to “rip it up”.  If Nige’s time taught us anything it’s that things take time to improve.

I’m really relaxed.  Quite happy we’ve taken 4 points from 2 games, 2 clean sheets, and now have a break to allow further embed things.

Exactly.

I genuinely had never heard of Liam Manning until he appeared in the "possibles" list- way below everyone else. 

I want to give him a reasonable and genuine chance and will utterly support him. I think he's taken over a relatively ok situation and  he does need some time to sort everything out - just not another 3 seasons!

Ok - so we got thrashed 0-0 away at QPR.

It was the worst start by any new coach in footballing history. 

There is nothing anyone can say which can make it any better.

Fortunately a walk on the Mendips may help. A moment to converse with god is a rare opportunity.

3 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Yet again another post from you would shows you're at least 30 years behind the rest of us.

It was actually 1977. So that makes me 46 years behind the "rest of you" or possibly I just love that song .

2 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Stop quoting me.

No.

You'll be committed for insanity.  Just get a grip on yourself.

21 minutes ago, Harry said:

 

So, I think he’ll have discovered today that he doesn’t have the players to play the way he wants - which was my primary concern from day 1. 
And that’s not Manning’s fault. He has his style of play, we recruited him, but we don’t have the players that suit him. We have runners, tryers, grafters, but not much ball quality. 
Good luck Liam……. 

Out of interest Harry- let me know which Manager in BCFC history who has taken over believed that they had the players to play the way they wanted. FFS- Nige didnt after almost 3 years and 6 transfer windows!

21 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

So if he's far better than the players he's coaching then he has the ability to make them better? 

With Nige we were capable of challenging for the top 6 this season. We would have won today and been 2 points off the play offs.

Ripping up everything and starting again with heavy investment is going back to the LJ days.

You are increasingly losing an ability to stay rational. Seek help.

1 minute ago, AppyDAZE said:

It was a joke 

Yep- so was mine.

Since when has not actually watching the match prevented people on OTIB from commenting?

Take a whooosh.

6 minutes ago, richwwtk said:

I'm not watching so in no position to comment....

That is the worst excuse I've ever heard.

14 hours ago, 1960maaan said:

Well you haven't had anything to moan about for a few hours, so fill your boots.
And Robored's on , um holiday .

Plus I'm bored and the Wife's gone to see Heaven 17

 

It's amazing how much  temptation  you've given us.

3 minutes ago, Spreadsheet Boy said:

The club had gone silent on many things, there was no planned transfer window comms, a hastily arranged SOTC, when the fans started asking for answers.  Nige wasn’t forging his own path, he was the only one fronting up.

and I disagree with this. He was indeed forging his own path in the absence of any clear vision to the contrary from above.

The reaction will hopefully be a lesson that the board/owner will take on board. If the recipient of the ill feeling from the ardent NP fans in any way shifts to the new coach- then more fool them. Lessons to be learnt all around perhaps.

48 minutes ago, tin said:

Some points I agree with, others I don’t. Manning certainly hasn’t said or done anything to excite me and the Lansdowns deserve criticism IMO, for reasons that go deeper than simply sacking Pearson.

Possible reasons:

NP was increasingly seen as forging his own path and at points openly critical of the " hierarchy ". The more he did it , the more he endeared himself to the fans and the more the fans liked it, the more the board didn't.

This is turn led to a divergence of strategy between Manager and board/owners. "Them and us" style. Tinnion maybe ( speculation) picked a side and it wasn't NP's.

Nige clearly has a health issue. The third one during his tenure but this one being undiagnosed and unfortunately leading to being less abled physically. The board may well have felt that they could end up carrying a manager unable (through no fault of his own) to carry out his duties.

Therefore

1) They felt he had got too big for his boots 2) They thought he might be unwell 3) They had already decided no new contract.

The easiest way to spin that was to point at results and say the squad were capable of more than he was achieving. Stating the actual reasons truthfully would have been commercial hari kari.

What great article and both so accurate and honest.

It's great to read such a balanced view particularly surrounding Nige's health issues and especially recognising the commitment from the Lansdowns to BCFC. 10/10

4 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

'd be expecting 3 points from 2moros game whoever was in charge. 

I do feel sorry for Manning in that whatever he does for the foreseeable, he will be compared to Nige. But I suppose he knew that when taking the job. 

 

W-S-M Seagull potential reactions of a City loss at QPR :

1) With Nige: "injuries cost us the game against an improving side"

2) With Liam: "Inexperienced  coach out of his depth. Would never have happened against a relegation team if Nige was still here."

@Jerseybean

Shame about the other thread as you've done such good work with the MDT.

49 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

"For us as senior lads we have a bit of a role to play because some of the younger boys haven't really experienced managerial change yet, so, it's about keeping them, y'know, kind of not sprinting around too much, trying to impress too much, just relax and basically trying to play their game".

Wise words from Matty James today. So relax Tommy. 

For that's all it surely was -  a young, determined boy desperate to impress the new manager.

What a load of sh!te this thread truly is, peak OTIB sh!te.

The End.

But while we're here, how brilliant that Nigel Pearson brought such wise, experienced voices to our club. Voices that are absolutely essential if our club are determined to put such an emphasis on youth players - there MUST be older heads around, willing and able (not often the case) to guide the "younger boys" over the inevitable bumps in the road. 

"Why's Andy King playing? Why? Why? I've got a bairn centre half who's never played a league game in his life who should be playing instead of him. Howay, man"

F *** off you back stabbing failure.  

Did you build the HPC with your own bare hands Brian? Did you pay for it? Did you coach any of the players who've made it through the academy to the first team?

So what have you done Brian?

You're just the face. You talk the talk, while someone else has to actually walk the walk. People like Andy King and Matty James. You're Guernsey's sock puppet. Congratulations. 

Talk about the makings of a great post disintegrating into snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

19 hours ago, LansdownsBOT said:

Perfect, where can I found the worn McCrorie shirts please and thank you

Great news.

I have spoken to Ross and he is happy to send you some of his worn shits.

let us know your address and ,who knows, you may get others send some of theirs?

7 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Didn't he have bags load of money to spend whilst managing in the Belgium 2nd division?

No- he was head coach. He coached the players that were at Lommel S.K.

They are a City Group team - in the same stable with clubs in South America, India, Australia and Europe.

The set up was with a sporting director and a team manager and a head of player development. 

His role was to coach what was in front of him as part of a larger team. He wouldn't have been anyway near "the bags of money" or player transfers. If you bothered to see how City Group work then you wouldn't have said anything so ill contrived.

But hey, you're just looking for anything you possibly can to belittle the new Manager whilst desperately hanging on to NP as some form of messianic leader.

You really are becoming a character:

Black Knight: I'm invincible!

Arthur: You're a loony.

Black Knight: The Black Knight always triumphs! Have at you! Come on then.

Arthur cuts off the Black Knight's other leg.

Black Knight: All right; we'll call it a draw.

Arthur: Come, Patsy.

Black Knight: Oh, oh, I see, running away then. You yellow bastard! Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off!

31 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

With the void left by not having a CEO, Tinnion was able to take on more power.

He decided he was able to influence team selection for example.

Tinnion the stalking horse.

Tinnion the power hungry usurper.

He pretended for years he was just a committed member of the club with a hell of a history and suddenly morphed into Dunsford's & Ashton's love child in 6 weeks

All that work he's done was just a front because in reality he's a frothing megalomaniac set free to spread his evil by the psychopathic Lansdowns.

Where's Thatch when you need a good boo?

1 minute ago, Port Said Red said:

Ah right, not the 4th from the last picture on my screen, maybe it's a resolution thing? Anyway, I suppose if Tinns was talking with Manning or the players it would be a sign of his interference? 

Well that will depend on Liam's results. Interference when losing and credit seeking when winning.

Sadly there are no winners in this character assassination of Brian Tinnion. 

1 hour ago, Spreadsheet Boy said:

The vendettas (plural) are weird, agreed.  They have worked both ways though.  There has been denigration of Nige and Rennie too just like there has of SL, JL and Tins.

Bizzare isn’t it?

Are you talking about within the club or on social media?

If it's the latter then I might just add that although that is obviously the case, the massive majority have decided that the denigration of SL /JL /BT ( and throw in any chance whatsoever to add LJ/MA) is hugely one sided probably at about 90% on here. There is a generally accepted narrative that anyone in the club hierarchy is wrong/incompetent and destroying the club. Meanwhile NP , Rennie, Fleming and Euell are everything that has been good about the club, wholly responsible for anything positive.  I feel sorry for Gould in this respect.

Some of the most vocal posters and the most regular posters pinned their colours to the NP mast and will not ever accept that maybe they were to polarised.

As I've said. If Manning succeeds it's because of NP and if he fails it because he wasn't NP.

Meanwhile- three pages on "let's name a stand after NP" and hundreds on how NP was the only man, the saviour.

Never in the field of football history has so much credit been given to one man by so many but who achieved only a bit.

On 08/11/2023 at 08:56, Ian M said:

Are you suggesting that you can counter views but those opposing you can't?

There's no inner circle shutting you down (the clue is you're here posting) it's just natural that if you hold one view and 90% hold another, you're gonna face more replies opposing your view. It's the point of a forum, everyone can reply.

 

Anyway, +1 to the OP's view. 

Love Nige. Hate how it happened. Support Manning.

Sometimes I find it quite difficult to be part of the 10% whilst still feeling empathy towards the 90% who are obviously and clearly wrong.

Fortunately my monthly "pay per post" remuneration as a Bristol Sport employee keeps me focussed.

Love Steve. Right decision. Support Manning.

3 minutes ago, 38MC said:

Out of reactions otherwise I wouldn’t have quoted.

Despite I think us sharing polarising views on this week, and most definitely on JL, this is spot on. 

It’s not how they present. It’s how they perform. 

unfortunately JL’s performance is as bad as his shit clobber though. 

We politely agree to disagree on 'events'!

I've made it quite clear that I believe that JL would not be Chairman in any other parallel universe . 

However, his clobber/ cardy/ lack of suit is 100% irrelevant and just another stick to beat him with by those who can't think of a more intelligent comment. IMO ofcourse.

" It's how they perform"  ,as you say , that is key to everything and almost everything else is fluff.

4 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said:

If he spoke with any kind of authority id agree. However he looks as shit as he speaks. Press conference with a new manager wearing a crappy cardigan? Put a bit of effort in ffs

So you'd forgive him speaking sh1t if he wore a suit/looked sharp?

Fair point. I always forgave City losing 6 or 7 nil providing they wore lime and purple- and were looking sharp.