Marina's Rolls Royce

12 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

His reign wasn’t all about results and performances though was it?

Recent history tells us that he inherited a shit situation, and kept us competitive in the championship…something others couldn’t do…whilst gradually improving us.

And he had to sell his best players…apart from he wasn’t to invest at anywhere near the levels of others.

I think most “Nige fans” are hugely respectful of the job he did rather than see him as anything like the messiah that his non-fans try to claim we see him as.

He certainly had a lot of disciples. I was mainly Thomas.

36 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Given the stick that I’ve given on here over the years, I’m not surprised that my absence was noticed………

Hopefully an artistic edit in the interests of balance.

FWIW- I missed you a tiny weeney bit.

2 minutes ago, Robbored said:

He wasn’t asked. 

Well- we got you back so we're due some good news as well.

On 16/11/2023 at 12:20, W-S-M Seagull said:

 

All this sudden communication just seems like a PR thing. They've gone from one extreme to the next.

"Communication just seems like a PR thing" . 

No sh1t Sherlock.

2 hours ago, chinapig said:

Good way of not answering the question but do you think that's what the club means by top end? I'm assuming you won't actually be happy if we finish in 21st place.

1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

It is open to interpretation to an extent, don't disagree. Could be argued 7th-10th if the playoff tilt is meaningful and we aren't that far away points wise would qualify. Top third to 40%.

Taking you at your word 2nd paragraph, that means NP, and even DH plus LJ mostly succeeded, think we were on the bottom 3 a couple of times under him...let alone before budget etc.

I guess my humour is lost on here atm.

I was alluding to the fact that as a long suffering City supporter- a good finish is one where we don't get relegated. I'm not used to much else since the 80's. 

I refer your comments to the statement made by the Honourable member for @ChippenhamRed who did a great post about the trials and lack of tribulations of being a BCFC supporter.

Managers come and go, players come and go but the excitement off the pitch seems more consistent than on it. Yet we go again.

3 hours ago, JP Hampton said:

So out of interest then, how would you interpret “top end”?

The other end to bottom- strictly speaking. Does  top end means top 2? Or top 6? Is 7th top end? I think "top end" is indeed down to interpretation and deliberately vague when referenced by some.

However, as a long term BCFC supporter my personal interpretation of top end is anywhere whatsoever higher than 22nd.

3 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:

To be fair to @Marina's Rolls Royce I don't think they were accusing me of incandescent rage or fury. I had to read the post a couple of times but I think that reference was to other unnamed posters.

If I'm wrong then I will be incandescent with rage, but it will be directed at Marina's Rolls Royce.

I wasn't trying to stir any shit at all. The opposite really. Just had some time to refresh my memory of things said two weeks ago and try to fix in people's minds what was actually said!

Well- I was actually saying it in support of your post not against it so you can maintain your blood pressure within recommended levels.

I had a similar friendly exchange regarding an inaccurate Math Withers quote last night.

My point is that someone only has to change a word in a quote to entirely change what was actually meant. My other point was that if everything that has gone on at BCFC is quite as bad as many think then the facts as they stand will prove the argument/statement/belief and doesn't need to veer off into fantasy, conspiracy or myth.

3 hours ago, Davefevs said:

 

But, there is a feeling from more fans that Manning shouldn’t be judged on this, because it was a deluded objective / aim.

Isn’t there?

Yes and no in that's it's not universal. A brief glance at the various threads since LM was appointed shows quite a divergence on what is expected of him and why but many of these comments may just be a knee jerk reaction whilst the dismissal of Nige is still very raw.

33 minutes ago, RedRoss said:

I know people will shoot me down but it's my opinion we need to improve and ultimately replace James. He's too slow and cumbersome, he always commits to his credit.

The only problem is that however slow and cumbersome he is- we are a better team when he's in it- certainly this season at the least.

26 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

 

So he rambles a little bit, and answers it across several questions, but that final line is there for all to see. It's not quite as definite as BT's words but the hierarchy clearly think this squad is "very capable" of challenging "towards the top end".

Just seen this thread.

Yet again we see someone who is incandescent with rage re NP just making up a quote  to underpin their agenda and the "Simpsons crowd /mob" falling over themselves with support and agreement then someone comes along and proves that no such thing was said and are basically ignored.

Facts are clearly unwanted if they challenge the accepted narrative.

If people are so utterly convinced that the NP sacking was wrong/ totally damaging and all the other stuff that's been said then surely they shouldn't have to make stuff up to prove their point?

3 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

I didn't watch the Joe Sims one back as I haven't got time, but I don't recall JL going further in that one.

Nope- he didn't say it on that interview either.

ZUNY TUNES

3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Thank you. I still see a bit of a contradiction or mixed messaging though.

One of the poorest games in many a season. Albeit MW also said it was like what went before. Anyway it's one game, time to see how it goes over the coming period.

Agreed. I expect that people choose which message they wanted to take away from his article. Mine was:

"Everyone just needs to remain calm and keep a sense of perspective but maybe that isn’t the way of the modern football fan. We all need to trust the process and give the new head coach and his team our support and see where it takes us."

3 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-citys-performance-qpr-no-8902975

Very patient. On one hand Math Withers says it was the worst game in many a year then says the performance is no great surprise as early days.

Which was it..first he says it was no different to under Pearson, then in the next paragraph he says it was one of the worst in many a year.

I think there is always a difficulty on OTIB to accurately quote what someone actually says and it's best not to change it. We've seen so many alleged quotes change in the last couple of weeks and it's appropriate to leave a quote unembellished:

Math Withers : "Let me say from the get-go, Saturday’s game was without doubt one of the poorest games of football that I have witnessed in many a season."

14 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Spot on.

In addition to your comment about Rob seeing every game whereas I only see home games in person these days, I’d also add it’s an opinion.

Not one I share but one he’s absolutely entitled to, especially considering his commitment to watching the club.

Also, without resorting to semantics, he’s said the most “clueless” we have looked, not “the worst performance” which could certainly be interpreted as meaning they don’t understand what they’re being asked to do, which after so little time with Manning is perhaps understandable.

26 minutes ago, bearded_red said:

But out of possession we’re really good? So it’s in possession that all the work needs to be done?

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Just now, BigTone said:

But will they accept him ?

Accept him ?????

He's been appointed Captain of the Rwandan Olympic bowls team AND  coach driver of the national football team which , due to time restraints, is why he's unable to post on here.

2 hours ago, BigTone said:

I thought Robbored lived in Nailsea

He's been deported to Rwanda.

2 minutes ago, Spreadsheet Boy said:

 

Please don’t let it be deja vu.

I swear you've posted that before.

5 minutes ago, bearded_red said:

The walk to Lancaster Gate was annoying though wasn’t it.

You need to let Lancaster Gate go. The FA did.

Just now, Phileas Fogg said:

You are the ‘Matt Smith is awful’ guy - so if anyone is going to be the authority on criticising posters for making a potentially OTT hasty judgement then it’s fitting it should be you. 

Take a look in the classics thread.

I came to that conclusion after 4 matches of him being awful ( NOT ONE). I was subsequently proved wrong and have always been happy to admit and self deprecating.

Funny you don't mention stuff like Bobby Reid  who I got spot on when he was dust binned by most on here. Or Wes Burns.

Or maybe - Mark Ashton who may be personally painful to you.

Just now, bearded_red said:

Not enough, more wives if anything.

See- we are already bonding because I  sort of agree- he should actually have had a few extra BUT divorced less and executed more. I think he had too many wives he didn't execute.

1 minute ago, bearded_red said:

Yeah you’re right to be fair, we’re not.

I reckon Gardner-Hickman should have started, what do you think?

I love the Tudor period. I think Henry VIII had too many wives- what do you think?

1 minute ago, Harry said:

I agree that the reasons for the departure have been suspect. However, I think you’re being to kind to Jon & Brian. 
I genuinely believe that they genuinely think this squad is good enough. And that’s a huge concern for me. 

Yep - you may be right and that would be worrying indeed. I maintain that they used that statement as an excuse and they think no such thing. Time will tell as will any transfer budget.

1 minute ago, bearded_red said:

Yeah you’re right mate,  not been to a game.

You get a taxi or walk to Lancaster Gate today?

I don't think we are on "mate" terms but you never know. What do you do in your spare time- we might have loads in common?

20 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said:

Was excited when we signed Mehmeti.

Sadly, he has, so far, been a massive letdown.

Could be worse.

At least he's not a Lansdown.

Was so excited when Lansdown took over.

Sadly, so far, it has been a massive letdown in the Championship.

Could be worse.

At least he's not a Mehmeti.

5 minutes ago, bearded_red said:

You reckon we played well?

41 minutes ago, bearded_red said:

worst football we’ve played in 18 months.  

You are such a silly pants!

Nowhere have I said we played well , average or bad.

If you think today was the worst football we've played in 18 months then I suspect you haven't gone to any matches.

You should try it.