Tinmans Love Child

I worked for one of the Big 4 consultancies and a recent example was given where the recruits from Asia were told they all looked the same, their names were too difficult to pronounce and they should just be given a number from which they can be referred too. This was just 2 years ago! It will have been meant as a joke etc etc but casual racism is still rife and probably still seen as just a bit of banter with no victims (like the Jason Lee thing),

I agree that the apology now seems to be because Baddiel is making a programme about racism, however as mentioned above, wearing dreadlocks isn't just a hair cut and shouldn't be trivialised like that. I also don't think this is newly perceived racism or cancel culture or wokism etc this sketch was no different to what the Black and White Minstrel Show did which went off air in the late 70's.

With all due respect, Jason Lee tied up his dreadlocks when playing football, he didn't deliberately shape them into a pineapple shaped form. I assume by your rationale it's fair game to chant about Pineapples to Semenyo as well? Either way, there is a symbolism to wearing dreadlocks, and for a comedian to black face and make fun of this is wrong, as David Baddiel admits. I recommend watching the video

https://youtu.be/he6Nq2lWLJ0 Really interesting discussion between Jason Lee and David Baddiel on the infamous (and quite frankly racist) sketches from Fantasy Football League back in the 90's. Anyone around at the time will no doubt remember the abuse Jason Lee got on the programme because of his dreadlocks, the subsequent chants about his hair, which from memory impacted his form and he dropped down the leagues. When you look back on the sketches now with Baddiel having a black face etc its quite surprising it was ever allowed on TV at all, even in the 90's, but there was definitely a culture at that time of everything being ok as long as you said it was banter. I used to watch the show a lot as a teenager and didn't really think about it at the time, but looking back most of the jokes seemed to be ripping anyone in football who was deemed ugly or weird by Skinner and Baddiel. David Baddiel is doing a new doc on anti semitism so I guess he needed to address the uncomfortable truth regarding Jason Lee as part of this, shame it took him all this time to actually apologies!

Yeh we want to beat them obvs but they can't catch us if we beat USA tonight l, we draw against USA and the last games will be very interesting!

As long as we beat USA and are safely through it won't matter what Wales do, although I can't see them beating us they looked very poor today

Fair play to Antoine, he's played in a World Cup, on the pitch with Ronaldo, can't knock it!

Interestingly at the time of the '66 World Cup it was still illegal in the UK to commit "homosexual acts" in private, yet here we are now sat on our pedestal only 56 years later! I don't agree with the World Cup being awarded in the way it has been, the corruption and money paid, changing it to winter, the migrants workers etc but it's worth remembering that we aren't exactly perfect and havnt been in the recent history, people and attitudes can and will change

Football is awash with money and dodgyness, I'd give up watching the sport all together if I were you

Good doc, and focussed more on the fan side of things rather than the games which was a different angle to the many many other docs on Italia 90. This was the first proper tournament I remember. I had the Mexico 86 sticker album but can't remember the games, but Italia 90 I remember trying to recreate the David Platt volley in my garden in the dark after watching the game!

My Dad is City through and through (he was born in Pill) but used to watch Rovers if City had no game, in fact he met my mum at Eastville (my mums family are from Kingswood and are Rovers) as the City away match had been called off, the hand of fate!

That's the spirit

Well that's that then, thanks a bunch ?

It's the Mickey Mouse cup with a second string team, who cares, the league is what we need to worry about and I think we are doing about as good as we can in the league with the tools we have.

Or we play them and smash them 5-0 and laugh at Barton when he looses it with big Nige and gets sent off

Rovers are the definition of Rolfs cartoon club

Tommy Conway works for the Yaya bit pretty well Conway, Tommy Conway, Tommy Conway, Tommy Tommy conway Joe low, joe low Joe low etc etc

To the tune of Flo Rida - Low He drinks the apple cider gold It helps him to win Now the whole clubs looking at him Next thing you know He's good to go Gotta Joe low low low low low low low low

Obviously there is always natural attrition and changes with any squad, there has to be, and it's not as if we didn't bring new players in cause we bought boat loads in, but to see such a great group of players who had a great team spirit and bond I would say, who were successful with what they achieved, completely ripped apart within 3 seasons really, means that we lost identity completely and with so many comings and goings it was inevitable that we ended up where we did with a bloated and disjointed squad. If you look at the top clubs by and large they stick with their spine and have a good few years to tweak and get success, whereas we sold the whole spine twice over!

The last player standing was Smith and he left in 2020, so within 5 years the squad had all gone (3 by 2015, 7 by 2016, 11 by 2017, 14 by 2018, 16 by 2019 and 17 by 2020): Fielding left 2019 Little left 2017 Williams left 2016 Ayling left 2016 Bryan left 2018 Flint left 2018 Cunningham left 2015 Pack left 2019 Smith left 2020 Wagstaff left 2016 Elliott retired 2015 Freeman left 2017 JET left 2015 Agard left 2016 Reid left 2018 Wilbraham left 2017 Burns left 2017

That 2015 squad was dismantled quicker than a formula 1 car

I think all the England players should give each other a kiss before kick off, then get the cameraman to zoom in on the Qatar official in the stand lookjng outraged!

I watched a doc which said that the addictive element comes from the fact that the first time you take coke your brain does a little re-wire and you feel great, and subsequent uses never quite live up to the first time (as that part of the brain has already re-wired) but that doesn't stop the user chasing that first great high. They showed the science behind the discovery and it seemed a legit point

HIGNFY was good last night, host Gary Neville got torn a new one by Ian Hislop on his stance of going, taking cash to commentate, but highlight issues when he's there (which he cleared won't be able to do during his match commentary) Watch from about 17mins25 https://youtu.be/X41N-eCQmOQ