JBFC II

20 hours ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

Not a bad turn out for a small club 

Only the second lowest of the weekend in league one, 50 or so less than what Burton took to Fleetwood. About right for them tbh 

32 minutes ago, When the river runs said:

 it's got nothing to do with you.

You already showed me how wet and limp wristed you are yesterday.

People on here trying to tell you how it is  when you've had a massive insight into it for yourself.

 

Would be fascinated to see where I was 'wet and limp wristed' yesterday, examples would be good. 

Examples of your 'massive insight' would also help, you've mentioned it a few times now but not actually backed it up with anything substantive

31 minutes ago, When the river runs said:

Have you taken your medicine as your personality disorder seems to be kicking right the in last couple of days.

Since you got a diagnosis , I  guess now you can excuse yourself for being a c***.

 

@phantom has responded with a fair bit of information and facts to what you've said, he's clearly someone who knows a lot about where the women's side of things is at right now, especially with his role with the SC&T.

Just as a suggestion, if you want to debate it with him (and as you've said, you've been around BCFC women for a while, so you have the capability to do so) then go ahead, that's what a forum is for. 

Name calling, and attacking the poster, isn't what the forum is for, however. Especially towards an Admin.

Everyone is disappointed about yesterday, and the season as a whole. But let's not turn petty and turn against each other. The only way the team will get out of the championship in the next few years is through everyone singing from the same hymn sheet, there's absolutely no need to be offensive towards other supporters just because you have a different opinion

Mansfield causing the fewers to cry yet again, you just love to see it

1 hour ago, phantom said:

I thought you knew everything?

They are making losses this season

Fair point, I didn't take that into account

I guess the way to justify it is the improvement in facilities. Compare the HPC to AG8 I am sure it is worth the increase

Of course I don't. All those meetings with the SC&T and with Bristol City and Tom Rawcliffe clearly you know better than me 

No idea what you mean by "10 years plus"

Yep that's fair. 

To give the club credit, they've done a good job marketing it. Really hope the youngsters who have been drawn in this season stay now for the next couple.

Next season will be tough, no doubt, but if they can have a couple of thousand each week that will only help

1 minute ago, When the river runs said:

I'd be surprised if they 2/3k in the championship even if they're giving tickets away.

 

Playing at AG I'd say it's very likely. Theyve been getting over 4k for the less Glamourous prem ties

3 minutes ago, When the river runs said:

If they are playing at Ashton gate next year  , then I would doubt they actually make a profit from the games.

 

Likewise, I guess it's to increase attendances as much as possible. 2/3k watching them at AG would be way better than 1k at failand 

Just now, phantom said:

I'd suggest that it's the funding required to stay at Ashton Gate 

Perhaps, I'd imagine there'll be a drop in season tickets next season anyway, so not sure how much of a difference that'll make.

It's also a £25 increase on their last championship season, which feels quite extortionate really

It just feels a bit odd to me, but I guess there's a reason I'm not in charge of these things!

7 minutes ago, When the river runs said:

How long have you been watching the ladies then ?

What does that have to do with anything? 

3 minutes ago, phantom said:

Are you seriously moaning about a £5 increase? 

Perhaps you would be better to understand how much the club loses by playing at Ashton Gate 

Any sort of increase after relegation seems odd really.

Had we been relegated to league one this season, I heavily doubt people would have been happy with a 6.25% increase across the board

4 minutes ago, When the river runs said:

Bring eyes to Bristol city women ?

They will have barely any fans next year at the HPC . 

All the plastics here this season to see the other teams .

Bang average and amateur down there.

When you know you know

They're playing at AG next season, not the HPC.

Not quite sure why the need to disparage the club or fans after this season in such a way, the support has been superb (5th highest in the league), who cares whether they're there to see England players or not?

Just now, Eco said:

They'll still be playing at AG and crowds will be a lot lower?  At less than £4 a game for adults you can't complain about value for money.

It's £8 a game isn't it?

Just for comparison, when Reading were relegated last season, theirs were £70 for adults and £35 for u12s for the season after.

An increase after relegation, to what will (I'd presume) be comfortably the most expensive season ticket in the league, feels quite bizarre

Just now, When the river runs said:

They didn't get relegated yesterday 

What difference does that have to do with it? City weren't relegated when the team sheet, with the drawings, was announced pre match.

Their position in the table is irrelevant. Do you really think any of the players care that a child has drawn a picture of them?

If anything, this sort of thing helps bring eyes into the women's game. A child who drew say, Abi Harrison, may now look out for her as their favourite player. It can only be a good thing

5 minutes ago, When the river runs said:

It's not a school fete, these women have worked their arses off to get to play top flight football.

So have City men, why weren't you annoyed at it yesterday?

The kids who made the drawings will be thrilled they've been included, I genuinely don't see the harm it's doing?

Why are season tickets prices rising despite relegation?

12 minutes ago, When the river runs said:

Proper piss take whilst relegated.

Why? What difference does it make to anything?

It was a family day, so they're giving school kids the chance to be involved as much as possible.

Talk about finding things to be offended about...

1 hour ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

It's slightly concerning that your obsession stretches as far as keeping tabs on my travel arrangements. 

We missed our mega bus so drove to London. 

Took us ages to find a petrol station open at 6am in the morning. 

Eventually got to London and parked up. Elizabeth line was then suspended so back in the car we got and drove to another station for a different line. 

We then headed to the o2 arena where I had a breakfast followed by some beers. 

Another line then got suspended so we had to uber it to the tax payer funded stadium which once hosted the Olympics. 

We arrived just in time for kick off so had no time for pre match beers. 

We then watched Bristol City play in the former Olympic stadium and had a fantastic time with 9000 other Bristol City fans. 

At half time I had another beer which looking back at my bank account I wasn't charged for. 

After the game we walked around the former Olympic stadium and had beers with the West Ham fans in the home bars outside the stadium. 

After that we then went to the shopping centre which we had to wait ages for the gates to open. Spoke to many West Ham fans whilst waiting too. 

We then went into the shopping centre and we had Popeyes. 

Following that we then went to Wendys for some burger and fries. 

We then got the lizzie line all the way back to where the car was parked and my friend drove home. 

Fantastic day that will live long in the memory which then set up a replay at Ashton Gate which we then won. 

So just to confirm, we’re you or were you not the pitch invader today?

1 hour ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

 

Good win today and an enjoyable day at Ashton Gate. 

@JBFC II

Glad you enjoyed it, nice to see you being positive as well for once.

Not sure why I've been mentioned though!

4 minutes ago, BS3_RED said:

Correct however, if Max felt that he made a mistake signing for City now that Derby have been promoted (bearing in mind they could probably pay more) and he started being difficult ( Im not saying he will) then things can change if the club/Manning decided its not worth the hassle.

 

Considering where Derby have been financially in recent times (a mess they certainly aren't clear of yet) I'd be very surprised if they could pay higher wages than the majority of clubs at this level to be honest

13 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Mate stop lying. Can't engage with someone who is telling outright lies. 

What ever you're trying to portray, it's not a good look for yourself. I raise legitimate concerns and I expect high performance. Nothing wrong with that. 

I do post positive things when it's warranted, you just ignore that as it doesn't suit what you're trying to do. 

 

You do raise legitimate concerns, but you also fail to raise any legitimate points of praise as well. If you're only capable of doing one, then fine, but that's not a narrative on my part.

If you could point any lies I've told I'd be grateful as well

5 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

Surely if the team play well and  win then that is the bare minimum metric. Fewer people will have something to say or praise because that is the expected outcome. Fall below that even a win playing boring football is going to draw more comments and an amount of criticism.

The balance you refer to isn't as simple as win / lose = similar amount of praise  / criticism.

I agree, but when 95% of what someone writes is negative, even after a victory, then it's only fair they're questioned about it.

It's very easy to constantly criticise and expect perfection, but the best posters on here are the ones who are able to balance that with a level of positivity, which certain posters seem to struggle with

19 minutes ago, Waffleflap said:

Cheers Dave. Still , I bet he regrets leaving a bigger club with more potential to go further than we ever will 

What's your basis for that though?

The last 3 seasons they've finished 21st, 23rd and then 2nd in league one. Nothing from that screams potential to go up from the championship does it?

In fact, they have spent 2 of the last 16 seasons a league above us. Hardly sounds like a side with potential to go straight up again?

32 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Of course Blackburn was a midweek home game where as Sunderland was a Saturday 3pm game which I watched a live stream of. 

My narrative is that I do not think Manning is the right fit for this club. I don't hide away from that. And there is nothing wrong with me having those views. Just like there is nothing wrong with someone thinking he is the right fit for us. 

I did write positive things after Blackburn. I did write positive things after other wins. I was leading the play off charge after the Southampton win so let's not try and create a false narrative here. 

Yes there has some been some good moments but overall we have under achieved this season and I'm perfectly entitled to call that out. As I've said many times, it's perfectly possible to be happy with a 5 nil win but still be unhappy with the overall bigger picture. 

 

 

It's not just that example though is it? (Although if you'd wanted to watch a live stream of the Blackburn match, as you hadn't gone yourself, it would have been very easy.) 

Leicester at home, we beat the team who have just been promoted, you manage to find every negative avenue about the performance, at no stage finding anything positive. Plymouth away, we win and yet you're negative about the formation. Blackburn at home you disappear because there was nothing to be negative about.

'Leading the play off charge' is just not true is it? In fact, post Southampton you commented on the fact that us being 4 points off the play offs was disappointing because of the points we'd dropped elsewhere. 

It's fine to have a negative outlook on the club right now, you certainly aren't alone in that. What every other poster is able to do is balance that out by being positive when things go well. If you did that, as much as it may work against your biases, you may find people to be more receptive of your point of view

1 minute ago, The Fat Controller said:

It's not though, is it? If we'd gone 6 without winning would you have described them as meaningless?

Just for context on the ‘meaningless’ nature of those 6 games.

If we’d lost all 6, we’d currently be a point off the drop zone, with one win in 12 and a very real possibility of relegation. Would they have been meaningless then @W-S-M Seagull?

7 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

You can't reason with these people mate. 

They consider genuine concern about how the club is run as an 'agenda' 

Apparently we all have to tow the line on a forum and must only post positive things. 

These people are incapable of any sort of critical thinking. 

Ultimately we have at the very most, stagnated this season. We all expected progression this season and I don't think there is any Bristol City fan that can genuinely say we have progressed this season. 

Ultimately that falls upon those who run the club but also Manning must take responsibility for that too because we have not progressed under him. 

6 games unbeaten is great, but it happened at a time where it is meaningless. No one wants to talk about the bad runs, when it actually mattered, because that doesn't suit their narrative. 

If people rate Manning, fair play. You won't see me trolling them because of their support of Manning. Yet some people just can't help themselves because I don't rate him and I don't think he is the guy to take us forward. But apparently I'm not allowed to have those opinions. 

You are totally allowed to have those opinions, but then it’s all about balance.

You’re a constant presence on match day threads, post match threads etc when we’ve lost or played poorly. For comparison, you made 18 posts during and after the Sunderland game, commenting on how poor we were (which was deserved) but then made 4 during and after Blackburn, none of which were positive, because you struggled to find anything to use against Manning.

It’s all well and good talking about other people’s narrative whilst not realise how strong yours is. If you were more balanced and capable of supporting us when we do well as well as when we are crap then you wouldn’t receive some of the reactions you get