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  1. 22 minutes ago, Bris Red said:

    Just when you think it couldn’t get any worse they change the collar.. Is there going to be a different variation of the same kit every few weeks or something? Mental.

    The sleeves too, not even slightly uniform with the main section, it actually looks really bad doesn’t it…

  2. 5 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

    A lot that we know already, although one possibly slightly new development is that we know about Wolves but Brighton may also consider the price to be too high. ⬇️

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12300995/Bournemouth-make-improved-bid-Bristol-Citys-Alex-Scott-15m-offer-rejected.html

     Bit more surprising in the context of their higher revenue, higher profitability, platform for young talent and no FFP concerns etc. Preference rather than being heavily restricted at this juncture probably.

    Forget his name but reliable Brighton journey said they weren’t entertaining it last week 

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  3. Dragging their name further through the mud, women beaters, sexist pigs, conspiracy theories, promoting his own ‘business’ whilst  ‘committed’ Gas manager, sending their wage bill sky high, signing players with 0 resale value, all whilst keeping Rovers in the bottom 3rd of the league, please don’t sack him!

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  4. Just after their new signing has been charged with two counts of assault on women, Barton quotes the Carlson Tate interview, is he actually looking for attention now? For context if you don’t know who Tate is.

    ”Tucker Carlson jetted off to Romania to join Andrew Tate for a sit-down chat at his home on the outskirts of Bucharest, where the influencer remains under house arrest. Last month, the 36-year-old king of toxic masculinity was charged with rape, human trafficking and forming a criminal gang to exploit women.”

  5. 6 hours ago, Supersonic Robin said:

    I actually don't think we would get him back on loan (or want him back on loan) for a number of reasons.

    From Bournemouth's perspective, you don't spend £20m+ on a player with the intention of immediately sending them back on loan. Bournemouth could quite reasonably say "If you think he needs another year to develop in the Championship and we're gonna have to wait another year before we actually get him, then why the **** are you asking for £25m?"

    Equally, from our perspective, we'd suddenly be developing somebody else's young player when we have plenty of our own young players to give development minutes to instead. I don't think it's worth us making that sacrifice, as well as the sacrifice of £5m - £10m in transfer fees, just to have Scott back for another year - especially for a season where, realistically, we're unlikely to challenge for promotion.

    Also, whilst we're on the topic, I absolutely love our current policy of not wasting our time and money on loans.

    I do generally agree with your post but Bournemouth just signed a player for 12m and loaned him straight out, albeit to their sister club.

  6. 1 minute ago, Monkeh said:

    That's not the point I'm making though is it,

    Once a bid is accepted another club IS  NOT GOING TO BID MORE THEN THE ALREADY ACCEPTED BID

    You’ve said that 25m is what we’d accept, which isn’t accurate, there is no set price. I agree that someone won’t bid more than an accepted bid, but that’s not relevant to your initial comment(?) maybe I’ve missed a post..(?)

  7. 2 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

    But why would they? The last doughnut in the shop is a pound, some one offers a pound, do you come in and offer one fifty? No because it makes no sense, it isn't a auction, 

    Why can't people grasp basic economics, it's mind bending

    You haven’t seemed to read the quote from Lansdown which states £25m was never the set price. Additionally, people will offer under 25m, 100%, so the analogy falls apart.

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  8. 28 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

     

    So let’s change the scenario to be aligned to what you’re suggesting.  Spurs are in talks with us, we know Bournemouth are interested too (pipeline).  At some point in those individual discussions (it is not an auction house where the other clubs know who’s bidding and what they’re bidding), City are gonna name their price and terms.  Spurs meet the price and terms.  We aren’t going to go back to Bournemouth and increase the price and terms for them to see if they nibble, we’ve already told them the terms.  They will see very quickly where this is going.  They ain’t gonna offer more, because they know we will do the same to Tottenham and on it goes…or in fact it won’t go on and on…because both clubs will refuse to go higher than the original agreed fee and terms or pull out and our club’s reputation will be in tatters.

     

    Do you not think that this is a possibility then? Again, I have no formal experience, but for example let’s say Tottenham are willing to spend up to 28m on Scott, and Bournemouth 26m, we’ve told them both to secure this player you must pay 30m, we’re open to offers, they both come in with offers of 20m, we inform both clubs that another club has bid the same amount and to secure the transfer you must pay more, each club is willing to pay more as they already have their maximum amount set and they’re both well under it, they then make additional bids etc etc. City would be at risk of a club potentially pulling out, but that is always the case, once one team has hit their limit then they simply won’t bid, or will say this is our final offer, and the other team may, or may not, offer more. We would, probably, get a larger sum than trying to call the bluff of an individual team. 
     

    OR, maybe this is fanciful and not how the real word works.

  9. 9 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

    Although on the flipside if nobody is willing to meet it then we have a decision to make. The jury is still out as to whether anyone will meet the £25m price tag but things can change in an instant.

    If Bournemouth do then the dial moves significantly again although it seems to be giving clubs pause.

    Agreed, the Lansdown comment I quoted was to more so show that there isn't an exact price set, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go for under £25m, although I'd hope not.

  10. 13 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

    Fulham didn’t offer City more money than Villa, Villa were Championship, Fulham Premier League, don’t forget.  I very much suspect the winner was Bryan / Fulham, not City, ie the attractive offer was for Bryan only!

    We could indeed….but once we accept an offer, it’s very unlikely we’d renege on that - that is the point.

    So let’s change the scenario to be aligned to what you’re suggesting.  Spurs are in talks with us, we know Bournemouth are interested too (pipeline).  At some point in those individual discussions (it is not an auction house where the other clubs know who’s bidding and what they’re bidding), City are gonna name their price and terms.  Spurs meet the price and terms.  We aren’t going to go back to Bournemouth and increase the price and terms for them to see if they nibble, we’ve already told them the terms.  They will see very quickly where this is going.  They ain’t gonna offer more, because they know we will do the same to Tottenham and on it goes…or in fact it won’t go on and on…because both clubs will refuse to go higher than the original agreed fee and terms or pull out and our club’s reputation will be in tatters.

    I’m not sure “concrete” and “bids in the pipeline” really go together! ?

    Concrete + bids in the pipeline /=/ we're confident that x team will put a bid in for y price. I'm no expert in transfer negotiations but for Mr Lansdown to mention "supply and demand" it seems, to me at least, to suggest that clubs will compete with each other, and offer more money. With some reconciliation, I do agree that it won't be a 'bidding war' or an 'auction', as in, several clubs won't keep trying to outbid each other, with City accepting bids, but I believe that we will reject offers, potentially even over 25m, if we believe we can get more elsewhere.

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  11. 17 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

    That's not how a bidding war works, if any club came in with 25 million we'd accept it, why then would another club come in with more money?

    In order for a bidding war to start we'd have to reject the offer of 25 million, and as we've set that as his price we wouldn't reject that bid,

     

    Lansdown added: "We've quoted £25m in the past, I really don't know where it goes. It's supply and demand, isn't it? If there are lots of clubs interested in him, then the value goes up. source

    We haven't set 25m as our price, so we could easily reject 25 million if we know there are concrete bids in the pipeline from multiple clubs.

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