Lanterne Rouge

That moment between Steve Neville hitting the ball and it going in seemed to be last an eternity!

Cunning - classic pincer movement. Give them an escape corridor and let FGR have to deal with them,

Just need that little bit of SN and we`ve got the buggers surrounded apart from those few that appear to be running away towards Gloucestershire.

Me too - I`ve paid for it and it`s gone but I recognise there are people for whom the money is important at this moment in time. What I would also hope is that anyone who needs to have a refund isn`t penalised for future seasons and is treated as an existing ST holder who has had to take a `pause` option due to no fault of their own. They should be able for instance to reclaim their seat at existing ST holders` prices when all this is behind us. They`ll have to offer a refund I think. If you can`t actually receive the product you`ve paid for i.e. watching live football from your paid for seat in a stadium then I presume a refund would be assured under the Sale Of Goods Act(?). I doubt it would go that far though and City would do the right thing I hope.

I think there will be various options personally; Get your money back Accept a subscription to Robins TV in lieu (assuming 3pm Saturday games could be shown) - if they include home and away it looks a pretty good deal. For my SS ST it would work out at just under £8 a game. Even if it was just home I`d probably still go for it - once I`ve factored in not having to travel 120 miles each way it`s not bad at all. Transfer your 20/21 ST to 21/22 and buy games from 20/21 as you want via Robins TV at the normal rate. This is all assuming, however, there will be no football with crowds until the 21/22 season. If say, crowds are allowed for the second half of 20/21 it needs rethinking.

It gets me that the one of the underlying themes of pretty much all these threads is that we only take the piss out of them because we`re worried about them catching us. It comes up in virtually every one back then and still does now. A message to you saggies - we`re not worried in the slightest. We take the piss because you are crap, are run like a b-rated pantomime, play in a gypsy encampment and can rarely go more than 24 hours without shooting yourselves in the foot in spectacular fashion yet again.

That was the only chance they`ve had in a generation and they blew it. If there was ever a time in recent years that they could have pushed on and at least got close to us that was it but their shitness kept them where they were - pootling around in the middle of the Fourth Division little knowing what hilarity was to come only a year or two later. I doubt they`ll ever get another chance, not in my lifetime anyway.

One that still raises a smile for me is when that melt went on the Man City forum just after we`d played them desperately seeking attention and pleading with their fans to say they liked them more than us.

Just remind me, how long did it take the amateur sleuths of OTIB to establish the true extent of Wally`s actual wealth by dint of a quick bit of Googling? About a day wasn`t it? We did try to tell them but did they listen?

250 properties with 141 parking spaces. Matchday parking just got a whole lot worse.

Well, that confused me, the thread being merged while I was posting! You need to change the title though mate.

This. I don`t know why some people keep demanding answers on a daily basis when there aren`t any. It`s getting like the endless `why haven`t we signed anyone yet?` threads we get during the transfer windows. Once decisions have been made by the EFL, we will be informed and the options explored by the club.

It does make you think what they would have to live for if, God forbid, we did go under. Their sad lives would cease to have any meaning or purpose and they would have nothing to dream of in their empty lives.

It will I think sadly. What I was thinking about the other day though was how many clubs in League 1 & League 2 actually make a profit (or even break even) on a matchday when you factor in security, casual staff costs, programme printing, catering and all the rest of it? Take a club like Crawley as an example - their average home crowd is a smidgeon over 2k but how much does it cost them to put a game on against what they make from it? Provided they get to carry on receiving the solidarity payments the impact might not be as bad as feared. OK, they may have to play a lot of kids and old stagers but a lot of sides will be in the same boat. If, like us, they have a stadium that is used for lots of other things too they might be able to survive.

Just off the top of my head, Reading, Bolton and Derby are all on industrial estates/business parks and fairly accessible from the major road network and Walsall is right next to the motorway.

Does it have to be a football ground? I`m thinking that down here we have Sandy Park (Exeter rugby) which is right next to the M5, has a hotel on site and is one way in and one way out. There`s some housing fairly close but not close enough to be a problem.

Villa?

I`d have gotten away with it if it wasn`t for you pesky kids

With all the different people working on it - encouraging noises coming out of Bristol Uni too - I think one will be found sooner than that. The issue then becomes, do we risk using it before the normal clinical trials are complete? Pain v gain becomes the question then - would it perhaps be voluntary?

The more I think about this, the more it makes sense not at AG though but at the Millennium. That would cover `home` games for Swansea, Cardiff, Us, the s*gs, Newport, Cheltenham, FGR, Swindon - even Plymouth and Exeter at a push. The stadium would only need one lot of staffing - security, medical, catering and the like and , unlike AG, the Millennium (I think) has a hotel on site. Sky would only need to set up once as well and could cover something like fifty games. Also, from what I remember about the layout, keeping fans away from the stadium would be a lot easier - certainly more so than AG.

Whatever it was I think it was treated more as a suggestion rather than a regulation most of the time.

Still be more than enough for what they get.

Very well put. I`ve often said that while our ambition is to be the best we can be, their`s is to be one place better than us and they wouldn`t care if we were both in the conference when it happened (which it won`t!). They would happily give up any chance of success if, in return, it meant we had failed.

Yeah. TBF he does make that clear in the intro as does the other guy, the Vale fan. Of the two, it does seem Vale have been a bit shabbily treated, the s*gs, not so much.

And Bean is more likely to be a double barrelled name - Has-Bean.