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If he said he expects us top half fair enough...

With the next two games coming up - i expect us to be top half.

But if they think we should be chasing promotion, they are deluded

4 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

Only thing I think is this:

Steve "I'm not prepared to continue to spend much money on this club. You OK with that?"

Nigel "No"

Gary "Yes"

Saw this elsewhere - not sure how true it is

Just now, Dr Balls said:

Thoroughly useless would be far closer to the truth. Wanted a “yes man” got a “yes man” and the results on the pitch spoke for themselves, as Holden was way out of his depth.

A very long time, to appoint someone within, was puzzling to say the least

2 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

They probably said that countless times when looking for LJ’s replacement 

To be fair, they did consistently say, they were “going through a thorough process”

4 minutes ago, red panda said:

He joined Millwall, who finished in 21st place in 2017/18, in Oct 18.  He guided them to 8th, 11th, 9th and 8th place finishes, only a point off the playoffs last season.  That must be at least borderline impressive?

But then lost his job? where did he leave them in the league?

He did well - but i dont see the rationale in sacking a manager, who has been there and done it. For someone who has done well at times, with never getting a promotion. And he's had a number of clubs.

1 minute ago, supercidered said:

Awesome.

(sarcasm doesn't come across well in typing form).

Hands up who remembers the long and extensive search for a Manager before and then we ended up with Dean f@cking Holden. Lovely human being. Great at filling water bottles and picking up the cones. Should neve be anywhere near the Manager's job. I fear that we will end up with someone of a similar ilk. God I hate Modays at the best of times but today is a whole different level.

I feel the same. I dont have much faith in those choosing our next manager. I'm fully expecting a manager, that has been proven to be a lesser manager than Nigel Pearson

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City are understood to have not yet identified a definitive No1 candidate as yet and are expected to speak to a number of managers over the next few days in the hope of securing an appointment in time for Sheffield Wednesday at Ashton Gate on Saturday.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-city-next-manager-pearson-8867389

1 minute ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

With the two games coming up, I’m not expecting any announcement until after them. Imagine a new person coming in and losing those two games. 

I read on a bristol live article, that they "understand" that the club are hoping to appointment someone before saturday!

4 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I don’t disagree, but what are you gonna do if / when he is appointed?  

 

Be pissed off and expect a relegation battle.

Will also join the army of Lansdown out brigade.

Not much else i can do, other than that

2 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said:

Interesting

But at the end of the day it's seems to come down to SL, it's his club. Seems the son is dealing with it currently. Will SL speak to press during this situation? Not sure he will, but might clear the air some what. I would assume contact/s have been made pre sacking and are on going. We cannot have a lengthy recruitment process. But strikes me there are alternatives currently available. How much comes down to SL wishes for a manager or head coach role? And does SL Really only want a yes man ? And surely any incoming manager/coach will want spending in Jan. window. Which makes a joke out of the lack of support for NP. I liked NP and wish him thanks for what he did and wish he had been given more support from above. So many ifs and maybes. 

I will still be there Saturday cheering on the boys cause I am a supporter and red till I dead. But think it going to be  a toxic atmosphere. Yes I want to show my feelings heard Saturday at the whole shit show from our owners. But it's not the players fault and they deserves our loud and unconditional support. Life carries on.

COYR

I dont have much confidence in the "process" - the holden "process" was long and drawn out, only to appoint from within.

I've always been behind SL - think some use bristol sport and the rugby, as a stick to unfairly beat him with.

But with this situation, he has lost my support. I do think its time for change at the top, although, i realise thats risky.

Bit down about city. I was so positive with how NP had built a squad and wasnt afraid to use our academy. Now thats gone.

Someone give me a reason to be postive - because i always try to be.

9 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I think we should be open-minded about Rowett, as it’s possible his style at Millwall is influenced by factors like budget.  His signings this summer seemed to indicate him trying to transition away from the style we’ve seen under him.

He had a big budget at Stoke and failed.

Looking at his record overall. He did really well at Brum - but hasnt done anything that impressive since.

I'd be disappointed if he's appointed. We had a better manager, who has done things in his career, which Rowett hasnt got near to achieving

14 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Just wanted to share some thoughts.

This will undoubtedly be a time when old manager going / new manager coming in will see comments from posters, me included, giving our opinions and there will be debate for and against on both sides.

But…I see this as a small window of opportunity.

+++++

We have had numerous debates over our time back in the Championship from the managers - Cotts to Johnson to Holden to Pearson, to the Finances, FFP, Covid, etc.  We can all defend our opinions with facts, speculation, and just the way we see it.

However it is clear to me (at least) that we enter a period where we:

• don’t really have any manager “baggage”, no divide from posters who were fanboys of one but not the other.  It feels like a “decks cleared” time.
• no financial issues, FFP at least!  We don’t know the owners funding aspirations / restrictions though.

So we can treat the new manager on merit, although slightly hindered initially by:

• a small squad
• injuries

We will have to wait until January to see if he is allowed to recruit.  At that point we will know whether the budget was just for the old manager or not.  But we can judge new manager accordingly, ie is he hamstrung by budget or not.

Re injuries, a slight tangent, most managers come in and first thing they say is they had to get the players fit.  Well, City are one of the hardest running teams in the division, so that excuse is not valid.  Availability is different.

Ultimately the foundations have been laid.  The new manager has the opportunity to build on them.

I suggest we wait and see who we get and judge them on what they do with Bristol City.

 

I look at the managers available and it depresses me.

Most have not achieved what Nige has acheived - if we appoint one of them, whats the point of sacking a manager who is much better?

For me Eustace, was unlucky to be sacked, while 6th in the league. Think he did a good job at brum - so he is one of the few, who i'd be happy with.

The other name is Roy Keane - He wants to get back into management and did really well at Sunderland.

Other than that, a young manager on the up.

But not one of these managers who are "proven failures" at this level, such as Rowett - as i said, we might as well stuck with Nige.

45 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

Steve won't work for Cotts?

He’d never have Cotts near the club

25 minutes ago, Frenchay Red said:

And I suspect that there is no way Cotts would work for Lansdown 

It’s the other way round 

37 minutes ago, Atticus said:

??

Difference being that was pur first year in the championship under Cotterill. After he gave us one of our best seasons in recent memory. If not the best. 

 

The similarities are he was also not backed sufficiently. 

He was backed. He just went for unrealistic targets. Massive bids for Gray and Gayle

Why people having a pop at tinnion? 

4 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Against the joke of a board and their decision to fire Pearson.

Show Pearson the backing he still had from the fans.

SL had let down Cotts and threw him under the bus and now the same for Pearson. While in between the two, allowed Johnson to run this club into the ground season after season.

Time to force his hand and move this club on to someone capable.

This is nothing like Cotts.

Cotts was taking us down.

Pearson had us looking up and he was building something.

I’m pissed that they’ve got rid 

9 hours ago, big dosser said:

i don't think im that important

You and millions of other mugs obviously 

42 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

What would everyone think if this was our next manager …

Pissed off

9 minutes ago, big dosser said:

im a mug

The real fights don’t happen because of people like you 

Anyone paying for the Fury "fight" this weekend is a mug!

I dont think its the same. Purely because i feel the decision to sack Cotts was correct. We were going down.

Right now, things are alot better than when cotts was sacked.

For starters, we arent in the relegation zone and we are top half.

I think it would be crazy to get rid, when we are just starting to see light at the end of the tunnel.

3 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

No he didn't. He said I don't want players who are limping, so I took him off. It was my decision.

He defintely said given our situation

Pearson said he was limping round and given our current situation (with injured defenders?), we cant afford to risk him.

Makes total sense.