JP Hampton

On 25/03/2024 at 16:44, Silvio Dante said:

Notes from it:

- Matty James is fully training as is Twine. Williams not as yet

- They’ve had some physically tough sessions which in turn develop mental toughness - have now given them days off as recharging is very important (at this point I believe I saw Jon Lansdown smacking his head against a wall)

- The large volume of games we’ve not won or drawn we’ve been in them. The culture is good and it’s important to stick together

- Questioned as to how much of the plan is set game by game and how much is based on how he’d like us to play. Answer was that the behaviours needed to be right, had to run and had to compete, but he very much sees football as cat and mouse (….sake) and if the opponents are struggling against us then they will change and it’s about having a culture when the players solve the problem and that’s the big bit. 
 

(NB - major issue here. He’s right that opponents will change but the problem is he doesn’t and he can’t expect the players to solve the macro problems. They did when they went off piste vs Swansea but that’s in spite and not because of him)

- Bit about the fans, the youth cup, nothing else major. New phrase is “we need to do us” which is very romcom.

Not worth 8 minutes of your life.

 Thanks for paraphrasing.

  Before I read this bit I literally said it out loud. It’s his job to deal with the need for change, you can’t expect players to see the bigger picture. All opponents will adapt their game if things are not working. 

 All except us it seems. 
 

Honestly these words don’t actually mean anything to me. We’ve heard again and again it’s about the players on the pitch, adapting, being brave honest etc. Never about changing tactics at any point. 
 

 It can’t change, when there’s nothing new in the approach. 

5 minutes ago, redsquirrel said:

he didnt say he did or didnt want an extension tho did he, makes me think he wanted away aswell. nige going was probably a major factor imo.

Well I think it’s clear from that is he didn’t want to play 15mins slots. 
 

The fact he said “that has now worked out really well” I’d suggest he’d have stayed if he was being played. 

Just now, bpexile said:

I always liked the guy along with his pro approach to the game, I bet he's quietly happy to get away from our rat race of a club & I hope does well in anything he tackles in the future 

I think he probably is. 

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/andreas-weimann-opens-up-on-january-switch-from-bristol-city-to-west-brom/
 

16 minutes ago, lenred said:

Great to see.  Shouldn’t have let him go. Consumate pro who evidently still has a lot to give and the kind of leader we need, on and off the pitch.  Get that he may have wanted to be a bit nearer to home now though, but seems strange it all happened so quickly once the management changed.   Good for him though whatever.   

Think there was more to it than him wanting to go as such, see the article above. 

14 hours ago, Davefevs said:

All I’d say is that there appear to be some very loose lips at AG / HPC at the mo’!!!

Possibly adds some credence to my comments about Ian seeming to back track a little on Manning on FBC podcast, if he believed his source of information. 

4 hours ago, spudski said:

I really believe we could make that song our own. 

I can imagine the crowd singing it as one. 

Gas have one, West Ham, Liverpool etc. etc. 

We need one imo.

It's relevant...and the 'Blue' bit could be aimed at the Gas. Changed to ' what if I'd been Blue'. 

When the red, red, Robin comes bob, bob, bobbin' along, along
There'll be no more sobbing
When he starts throbbing, his old sweet song
Oh, wake up, wake up you sleepy head
Get up, get up, get out of bed
Cheer up, cheer up, the sun is red
Live, love, laugh and be happy

What if I've been blue?
Now I'm walking through fields of flowers
Rain may glisten but still I listen for hours and hours
I'm just a kid again doing what I did again, singing a song
When the red, red, Robin comes bob, bob, bobbin' along

Probably the best way would be to approach the club, to get them to play it again. People would soon start singing it. 

12 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

You nor anyone else needs to justify getting or not getting a season ticket,

And if you feel you do then ignore those posters

I disagree with getting one currently because I've seen this shit before and how it ends,

But it's a personal decision and one that shouldn't be influenced by others,

I have great respect for the way you've posted and justified your choice kudos 

Thank you!

I totally understand people not renewing and possibly getting heated over the idea of others, doing so. 
But you’re right, no one owes anyone justification, for their decision. 

Just now, Silvio Dante said:

As you know, I’m with you here. I’m lucky enough that financially I’m able to make the decision but if that wasn’t the case, I’d have given serious consideration to sitting it out.

Again, it’s a stone cold fact that the club know a decent percentage - if financially able - will renew come what may. For people like myself and yourself then leaving it until late is the best form of protest we have open.

I genuinely do not understand those renewing day one though. Even the blindest know something isn’t right at the club and to renew oblivious and give the club the impression of contentment just seems bonkers, particularly when you could have that money in your bank for another month!

Funnily enough I never renew until a week or so before the deadline anyway, as you say, waiting and seeing what happens and it’s in my bank longer. 
  This way if things get any worse it gives us time to reconsider if appropriate. 

10 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Not if it sends a message, surely? Even if it's futile, the current state of affairs surely warrant us sending some sort of message?

But fair enough, if you think not.

I totally see why you’re doing it. And I understand that’s the message you want to send. However, I’ve decided to renew and so there’s only so much I can do to voice my feelings.  As others I will wait as long as is possible. 

Just now, mason said:

they are pro`s ......alledgedly, they play for money...the end.

The only thing that affects them is their salary. no doubt, not that players gone elsewhere are affected by their exp here but they get over it and get back to playing football and money very quickly.

 Oh come on that’s so naive. You have no more idea than I do how they’re affected, or how easily they get over things. Each person/player will react differently. There are plenty of articles telling of the effects of abuse on players. 
 

 In my working life I was a well paid professional but that didn’t mean I wasn’t affected by things. 

2 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said:

Being forced to play in such a negative and passive way might hurt more.

I reckon Joe Williams was so peed off HT Swans game because he felt like he was being blamed for someone else's decisions on his gameplay.

Couldn’t agree more. 

16 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

So cost is the issue.

Fair enough.

No, not specifically. But it’s stupid to pay more than necessary. I’m buying an ST for many reasons. 

18 minutes ago, Street red said:

If the players feel it then the club will to by results,Fair play to you if you renew and that's entirely your decision but we should all remember it's our club as well not just Mr Lansdowns. I'm not renewing because both me and my son feel it's the best way our own little way of saying we are not happy in fact angry, I'm not investing my money to those making bad decisions.

Good on you. 

14 minutes ago, mason said:

No sorry dont think so, they will get paid whatever and will leave in a milli second if given a chance; the players and the others are just passing through, most werent even born when I first strolled into the Eastend

They’re not robots. You think booing doesn’t affect them then? 
of course it’s transitory they’re passing through, but I can’t believe their experiences in life just like ours, don’t affect them. 

14 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

I'm not "calling you out". I haven't said you're wrong to renew. Why so touchy?

I've pointed out it's entirely possible to watch us in person, even for every home game, without needing to buy a season ticket and that  very occasionally, this being one such time, it's a good idea to hurt the Suits in the only way they understand - in the pocket. If you're unhappy with the current state of affairs, of course. That is all.

Nothing personal intended. Why on earth would there be?

Not touchy, but I’m not paying POTD for every game. 
  Yes, I am unhappy with the current state of affairs but for myself, actually I think it’s the players that will feel the effects of fans responses well before the club do. 

6 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Completely understand this point.

But just occasionally, thus being one such time, I think there's things bigger and more important than that.

Each to their own. I genuinely admire your ability to sit through such dross.

Look. You don’t know my reasons for going to football and for renewing, just as I don’t know yours for deciding not to.
 Calling people out for a decision that is completely an individual’s own, isn’t on. I’m not criticising you for your decision, I respect that’s the decision you’ve come to and I’m not going to use sarcastic comments to challenge that decision. 
 I’m not sure why it would bother you enough as to what I’m doing, to comment. 
 Neither you nor I know what we’re going to get next season. 

11 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Eh?

You don't have to have a season ticket to attend in person!!

Alright!! misread it.

Ok, well it’s still going to be the decision we make,to get an ST. If supporting the team is important to me then going to all home games is what I think that means.  I did say that renewing has lots of other elements around it, who you’re sitting with for one, which you can’t guarantee when you POTD. 

7 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Not having a season ticket doesn't mean you can't watch City!

Yes but as my last comment said, for me it’s about supporting the team and I can’t do that sitting at home. 

If people don’t want to renew that’s up to them and good for them, but for various reasons I will be and that has nothing to do with the board and everything to do with the team. 

As my OH and I have decided we will renew, I think holding that off for as long as possible @Silvio Dante is the only way to show how we feel really. 
 We did think about not renewing, but there’s a lot involved in that decision, which isn’t solely about the way the club is being run. 

  I think ultimately it’s about wanting to support the team, above all else, as they aren’t responsible for this mess . 

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1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

I know you’re being facetious here, but it’s rewriting history to say that Coventry weren’t the better team for the opening 35 minutes and should have been out of sight. 
 

However, in that game Nige showed the quality that Liam hasn’t. He realised he got the selection wrong, made a brave sub and changed things which then led to us getting back into, and winning the game. Perfect example of not blindly trusting the process.

yes and all good managers of any walk of life are able to takea step back and have a wider view and adapt “behaviours” and approaches, as things evolve. 

  Whatever one’s views are about LM, I think we’d all have to agree on this one, he really doesn’t have that ability. Although some substitutions have worked, I don’t remember any real tactical changes in play, that have changed games, unlike your example of NP. 

 To think that opposition teams will remain static over 90 mins and therefore, his pre game plan, won’t need to change, is naive at best  

Just now, Silvio Dante said:

It’s a stretch and would change the habit of a lifetime 

Probably just wishful thinking on my part

20 hours ago, chowie said:

Happy Birthday @headhunter

Seems Mr Gay is avoiding the comments lately, which is a good thing, or is it because he logs in via twitter (now private) so can't comment via the platform / YouTube anyway?

Also notice he's less LM fanboy, seems to think our squad is very poor, I thought he was on board with best squad in years when NP left, I maybe wrong though.

Keep it up guys x

 

Exactly this. In my mind, There’s been a definite cutting of the apron strings by Ian in this one. He even had a couple of good things to say about NP. Stating that he was good at lowering expectations. Although I’m sure we heard moaning about that at the time

 I wonder if he knows something and is slowly disconnecting from the LM camp. Still maybe I’m looking into that too much?

Just now, W-S-M Seagull said:

Reminds me of the whole Keith Millen/SOD era which is all just a blur to me. 

Yep! I’m afraid Holden for me too. 

25 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

I was trying to be balanced. 

You're probably right. I went to the game and I have zero recollection of it which is quite telling. 

Yes. I’m actually finding it hard to distinguish one game from another tbh. 

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

We are bored aren’t we?

since Watford (a), the halcyon day (days???) of Manningball, we can see the decline in our attacking play.

If you look at Build-up (*) attacks, Direct (**) attacks as opposed to other open play attacks from shorter possession phases or set-pieces, we are more effective when we press!  Yet we don’t attempt that, preferring a block more often than not.  Maybe Krause should stop looking at our opponents and look at ourselves!

QPR is the only game where Manning’s approach resulted in more than 2 build-up attacks, 6 in total.  And total open play xg was 0.43!!!

The decline in quality of open play chances is also evident.

Just three times in 14 games have we achieved a match xg of 1.00 from open play in a match.  Some real lowlights in there too!

Then compare to what’s happening at the other end!

I don’t think any of us really need a set of numbers to confirm this, we are seeing it with our eyes.  But there is no hiding from the fact we are regressing.  Do we need more evidence?

sorry, was bored watching Man Utd v Liverpool, although not anymore!!!

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* Build-up attacks - The number of open play sequences that contains 10 or more passes and either ends in a shot or has at least one touch in the box.

** Direct attacks - The number of open play sequences that starts just inside the team's own half and has at least 50% of movement towards the opposition's goal and ends in a shot or a touch in the opposition box.

Thanks for this Dave. Makes interesting albeit gloomy reading. 

12 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

A good proportion of those shots come at 2-0 down….easy to throw caution to the wind on last 20-mins.  That’s not brave from the head-coach.  Stats-padding.

It’s been similar at the end of a lot of games we’ve lost, suddenly slowing a bit more energy,zeal etc. too little too late.