Sheltons Army

Sadly I wouldnt base the current situation just on hospitalised cases (Although my understanding is the BRI is creaking capacity wise)

From over 50000 deaths , only 8000 or so have been in hospital.

Personally I just cannot see any justification for any non essential activity of any sort when lives are at risk 

40 minutes ago, reddoc said:

This is seriously overcomplicating, and if you're that concerned just don't go. I think it's fair that every individual decides the amount of risk they're willing to take based on what we know, but when you agonise over the very small risk involved in washing your hands after having a piss, I'm thinking don't wash your hands then. Problem solved.

Understand what you’re saying but it’s / the subject is not as simple as ‘if you’re concerned don’t go’ 

Yes , you can do that and eliminate the direct risk but surely the point / question is

Does allowing fans back risk spreading the virus ?

(The answer , to whatever degree has to be yes)

so

What is the level of risk (To everyone , not particularly those attending) (Can it be accurately predicted ?)

and

is that risk acceptable ?

Spreading the virus would create danger and risk for everyone of us , particularly the most vulnerable , most of whom may never have set foot in a football ground

Just my personal view

8 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Other countries have managed it so not sure why British clubs can’t 

Other countries or only a tiny few have had our fatality numbers or level of infection / numbers

Ahhhhhh .......the old ‘Alex Ferguson one’...

Manager loses first game ................compare to Sir Alex Ferguson......

Yep that’s it .........

3 hours ago, phantom said:

Looks like the local Priest

Hooefully thee to read them their last rites

1 hour ago, Numero Uno said:

Well Swindon are 2-0 down already!! Desperately need a win in the Basement showdown on Saturday.....

What a good job John Coleman does at Accrington -

Sort if manager the Sags should be trying to tempt away (Though I doubt he’d switch)

3 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

It was the wind you know.....

 

 

Sorry 

Amend that 

Not only was it the wind , nut it was raining in his face too
 

Nothing to see here - Sags being robbed by the November weather

Blame Michael Fish I say

18 minutes ago, TomF said:

The absolute state of that goalkeeping

 

It was the wind you know.....

10 minutes ago, phantom said:

Yeah, because people will be temperature checked before getting near the ground, and then there will be sufficient spacing within the ground

You are correct, as I have Parkinsons I was in a group advised to self isolate with zero contact.

But equally I have been out and about (and includes being at Ashton Gate for the Norwich game) and witnessed measures in place that now make me confident and happy of measures in place

Whilst I’m genuinely pleased you feel assured , and in many ways it’s only right that you can make your individual decision about risk v consequence 

( Id just point out that the Virus has struck in just about every environment including in numerous clubs where strict protocols and testing are taking place - In simple terms , when people circulate the virus spreads)

But

Its not just your own health and life you are risking (To whatever degree) it’s others too 

And there lies the overriding issue for me 
 

Good luck and sympathies with your condition Phant ,

16 minutes ago, phantom said:

So you are choosing to ignore the fact that grounds all over the country have measures in place to safely check and seat people in a limited attendance

Perhaps you should stop ignoring facts and get your head out of the sand?

So you are telling me , guaranteeing in fact , that there will be no spread of the virus (Not any) by crowds attending football matches ?

My ‘ head is out the sand ‘ thanks’, I’m also alive to the fact , for example , that fans also have to travel to the area and ground 

How many lives lost to this Virus and how many projected ?

So you , and others,  want to try and bully / force the authorities into a gamble (However small any perceived risk) with peoples lives because people demand their right to see their side live.
 

Ok then

Sorry , I’m a million miles from your thinking - And IIRC you were having to shield during the first wave.

Im sympathetic with that,  as I am having too also , but I am then even more astounded that you are such a strong advocate of a return now
 

On 06/10/2020 at 20:46, Redwhitepurple said:

Wanna coward away dont go but you habe no right to bubble wrap the entire country. Wanna stay in then stay in. Flu still kills more. Covid isn't even close to being deadly. Stats dont lie, its embarrassing and now we have a huge tax bill to pay. Great.

What a complete bufoon

Personally , Id like to see you and your 7 family members transferred to a assigned enclosed area / town where you can ignore the harmless CoVid and behave how you wish , with other like minded and selfish tyoes

No NHS facilities - you get on with it , catch it , on your own

Sorry OP but I lost interest at

‘So far out his depth’

Theres a number of ways of describing a player that you are not convinced by , not sure about , or even don’t think is up to Championship Level (Should always add at the moment for a younger player)

‘So far out his depth’  is a ridiculous and disrespectful description 

6 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Why is she still with him? 

My first thought Max

As a woman , would you be with a cheat who then even as much as lays a finger on you......

And If I saw him do it , Id rip his throat out

Despicable 

9 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

My view is we are firmly heading for mid-table but we will see some decent football along the way. The squad just isn't strong enough, particularly with the recent injuries, and the Manager is inexperienced. That is not a recipe for Promotion. That is why I cannot be too hard on Dean Holden. Of course, I want to see him make progress and learn from mistakes he will inevitably make but I cannot expect much more from him personally. If "responsibility" and "blame" is the order of the day to justify that outcome then you need to look a rung or two higher in the Bristol City food chain!!

Again , spot on 

1 minute ago, City oz said:

Hey super we all want the best in regards to DH succeeding but he hasn’t got the experience of taking us up another level. I still cant get over why he was appointed 4/5 months back when it was common knowledge there were others that were interested in the roll and had experience in higher levels of football management. We had a good start to this season and recent games have proven unfortunately we have not progressed in what is probably one of the toughest leagues in Europe to get promotion from.

If it helps 

I don’t think Chris Hughton , (if that’s who you allude to), would have got us up this season , especially with the current injury Tsunami

Give the bloke a chance , he’s only just into double figure of games

2 minutes ago, DT The Optimist said:

As I look forward to today’s game it seems odds on another National lock down is imminent. While I appreciate football on the scale of things is unimportant when you consider livelihoods and all, what do you reckon will happen? 
Suspension of season or will it continue. 

Think it will continue unless their are rakes of positive tests

I think they’ll (Govt)  take the view that the minimal risk of professional footballers of spreading the virus to any impact I’ve degree  is worth it compared to the pleasure / distraction they are providing for millions

2 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

Not a Tory voter by any means, but **** they have an impossible job right now.

Agree 

Politics is nothing to do with it

Id love to see some of the critics in charge

Massive pressure from every angle , everyone with a different want and agenda

Lives v the collapse of the economy and numerous other significant effects on the functionality of life

Hundreds of difficult decisions to be made every day

Not sure how much more difficult it could be for any government tbh

2 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Just a simple example, my Van has a service due Tuesday....cancelled because VW have a covid outbreak and are having to close for 2 weeks whilst staff self-isolate.  It’s only gonna get worse under the pathetic measures.  It’s gonna impact businesses for yonks.

They need to find a way to break the increase and change its direction.

I’ve stayed away from the politics of the COVID discussions Dave but in essence just about every country has found that lockdowns are the only answer to stemming or slowing the increases 

Im no scientist , but what then concerns me , is that as soon as any lockdown is eased the spread increases again - (Not helped by an element of complete ********* that can’t behave)   it appears to be very difficult for countries or regions to escape their dose of pain.

A horrendously difficult situation,  and the thousands of difficult decisions , for any government and their advisors 

On 13/10/2020 at 17:54, Alex_BCFC said:

It can go on too much longer else millions will be homeless, jobless and mental health will be shocking etc not to mention all the cancers that are not being treated-  plus loads of other negative effects not even listed. Has to be a point where we get back on with life (now if you ask me) but hopefully SL will bankroll us until that point.

It’s been revealed that they are expecting 88000 ! deaths over the winter and we are actually higher than that projected increase estimate atm

France are saying the second wave is worse than their first 

Accepting business and so so many aspects of life desperately need to get going ,

but I personally don’t  think that now is a point to ‘get back on with life’

20 minutes ago, RedLionLad said:

The gift that just keeps on giving...

I think that ‘Meader’ is possibly the creator of that literary masterpiece