Sheltons Army

51 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

My cousin had striker.  The bog standard set came with goalies who’s top half would swivel do they could throw it out....or into their own net frequently!  Or you could buy diving keepers that dived so slow that the ball was in the back of the net before they’d got down to it.

Was the ‘Most Wanted’ toy of the day wasn’t it - the new football toy development after subbuteo 

was envious of those that got it  !

How times have changed !

11 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Where did the term striker come from...was it German football?  It’s interesting that the German squad is now announced with Goalkeepers / Defenders / Forwards.

I still like the terms Defender, Midfielder and Forward.  Semenyo and Wells are both forwards, but play the role differently.

Just now, slartibartfast said:

Watching the tripe fewers serving up restores my faith in City ! Darlo ,on the other hand playing some nice stuff .

Jammy b****s one up from Darlo **** up

Were getting the runaround

Was just thinking a few of our fans need to take in a bit of this - they are awful , dire

Just now, Davefevs said:

Not the only we should be ruthless with.

I agree Dave , if we want to progress

Cant all be done at once - but we need two or three windows where we get recruitment spot on

I know it’s an old debate but our recruitment over the last few seasons (As most in my life watching City) has been very mixed , and thanks to LJ , muddled and some harsh decisions needed 

How many in DHs shoes would you be desperate to keep and build around ??
 

Quick thoughts

Bentley

JD probably

Semenyo

Kalas ?  Probably

Bakinson (Due to Age and possible potential)

Vyner (Due to Age and possible potential)

Williams (If he turns out what we hooe he will be)

Wells (No messiah but we need to maintain some goals in squad)

After that.....

Do you think Holden is brave enough / ruthless enough , I have a suspicion he may well be - let’s hope his recruitment is good (a big question mark over The ‘recruitment team’ still for me )

45 minutes ago, Harry said:

Absolutely, I agree on the premise that the partner should be aware of the flicks, but you started with the comment that it is Fam who can’t form partnerships, which I thought implied that it was his fault that his flicks weren’t being picked up. 
 

I agree that Fam is a difficult one to find a partnership with - he’s not a target man but is often used as one. He’s hard to pigeon-hole into one style. 

Or Harry,

Being blunt - what’s he actually good at , let alone very good at - most of the positive comments tend to come about his defending from set pieces

If you were trying to sell him to a prospective buyer , what would be your sales pitch

Im dissapointed that he hasn’t improved whilst here IMHO - His touch is so poor and something that should be improved , 

And I don’t think despite his ‘look’ he’s a great athlete , not so much his fault , but fitness is something he can work on and improve

Time to move on from Famara for me , if we are serious about progression

Ruthless , but necessary IMHO

Just now, bexhill reds said:

Out of likes today.....nothing beat the Walshy shuffle

Dave Smith turning on the turbo for me

Decent bloke Foster

And a great pro , and fine keeper 

What’s this belter on about ?

‘ Long way to go just to get three points ‘

It’s  taken them most of the season to get together 3 points

Ohhhhh by the way you didn’t get three points 
 

#Sagheadlogic

3 hours ago, Bristol Rob said:

Horfield I think.

The animals are going to have to work twice as hard for their feed, looks like they are being TUPEd to some sort of blue and white circus. The tents are already up.

3 minutes ago, BigTone said:

I can assure you that is always kept well in hand. 

Ha ha

Thought it would be 
 

Meanwhile Steve Bruce is ‘totally perplexed ‘ why you can have 2000 fans in a L2 stadium whilst you can only have a similar amount in a Ground the size of Newcastle’s stadium when he reckons they could house 20000 socially distanced

Just a thought Steve, it might be to do with you’d have 20000 people travelling to and gathering for the game pre match and post match as opposed to 2000

Jesus wept.....

4 minutes ago, BigTone said:

Curfew is lifted on Christmas Eve and New Years Eve only (pointless really and should remain).  All other restrictions remain in place. They will be making another announcement on 15th Dec so matter of wait and see what transpires. Any changes will depend on numbers of new cases averaging 5000 a day or less. Not sure about others on here who live in France but I feel safer being here for some reason.

As long as you have the personal wine collection well stocked up Tone

10 minutes ago, BigTone said:

Shit !!

Our lockdown has been revised with non essential shops opening at the weekend. Bars, restaurants etc will stay closed until 20th Jan 2021 and we now have a 9pm to 7am curfew in place until the same date. Still need to complete an attestation for any trips from home.

Netflix getting a good workout !!

 

 

So over with you arnt they declaring Christmas a ‘free time’ Tone , when the Virus has promised , that as it’s Christmas it won’t spread ?

2 hours ago, BigTone said:

Didn't realise it was so bad in those areas.

Bath is getting hit Tone

RUH closed to any visitors 

And that ‘Ant’ has manage to fill Bristol Hospitals to capacity

I see on the OS that when some fans are allowed back into AG they will only be allowed to sing one song ........

#Regulations

Altogether now

’Do doo doo Jamie Paterson.... ‘

40 minutes ago, winsaw said:

Disappointing that Bristol is in tier 3 so no fans allowed, they are going to check every 14 days so hopefully at some point Bristol will get into tier 2 and we will get back this season,

I thought the pandemic was disappearing by March ? 

Havnt you been saying you nil cases ?

Two sides of Harrogates ground is in Tier 3 zone and Two in Tier 2 !! 

So they can only use parts of the ground and only have one turnstile not in a Tier 3 zone !

55 minutes ago, BigTone said:

I will rest easy tonight in that knowledge 

It’s true Tone

Found this prediction graph 

Just now, BigTone said:

Oh shit, you are having a laugh yeah ?

Dave will be working on it

Boris should have had him on the team 

Just now, BigTone said:

The 64 million pound question 

It’s ok @Davefevswill have spreadsheets , and a menu of graphs to put us more accurately in the picture Tone 

( And they will be sourced and presented in top condition )

1 hour ago, winsaw said:

I am just quote the people who are the experts in this I see no reason to think they are making those charts up the top scientists in this are saying it will not be anything other that another background virus by may at the latest like all the other flu , no one is saying that it will be wiped out or that it will never come back in a lesser way like most flu do, that are saying by May at the latest it will not be a pandemic and we will be able to go back to doing things normal , I really hope they are right, I am sorry if I was not clear in my other post,

Where is the chart from ?

16 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Tonight’s result is about as bad as it gets.

Wigan have no owner, no manager, have lost every player from last season (their top scorer Joe Garner walked out on them today to join a club in India) & are basically putting out their Under 23 side plus 3 players they have on loan.

They are bottom & haven’t won since October 3rd, so Radio Bristol describe it as a “much improved performance”, FFS..

Small steps Graham

Small steps

2 minutes ago, phantom said:

Like before, I fully respect yours and @Sheltons Army opinion (among others), but we are on opposite ends of the spectrum we our views on this subject.

I'm of the believe that as long as the correct measures are followed, for everyone from the moment they leave home to returning home.

Pubs and public transport were working fine with the measures brought in, and with the social distancing added into the ground I would be very confident that it would be safe to return

I do appreciate people don't always agree with this, but for me the returning of games is much more than just watching a game of football.

As someone who still struggles with serious mental health problems I can't begin to tell you how much it would help someone like me

During the last lockdown I was a guest of a company having a meal etc and watching the Norwich game at the ground, the impact of just being around familiar surroundings and the odd familiar face was massive 

That can't be denied, but I wonder how much is down to people not following precautionary measures?

And having a different opinion and debate is fine Phants

And , I fully understand , for yourself and many there are more benefits to them than simply watching a football match , so your point is a very good and valid one 

May I also say , and a very brave one to voice , my total respect to you

It’s totally impractical to administer but  Id rather see a couple of hundred fans admitted who had a real need and I hope you are the first to get in 

it’s the entitlement of some football fans ‘I want to go and **** any risk to society ‘ that p** me off 

There was a Spurs fan on the radio yesterday who lives in Yorkshire But is travelling down to North London to watch the game v Arsenal in a ‘Spurs’ Pub

The behaviour of the scousers and Leeds fans shows there are plenty of selfish ***** who will do what they want,

1 minute ago, phantom said:

Scientifically it has been proved that with the correct preventative measure the virus doesn't transfer between people

Public transport has coped very well with the measures in place

Well Phants

For all the advice and precautions the virus is miraculously spreading wildly , somehow still , with thousands of new cases 

31 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

I'm glad I'm not alone here...

This is such a selfish attitude. It stinks of "I want to do as much as I can as soon as I can" whereas some of us dont want another bloody lockdown. I'd rather wait til April to be able to attend football if it meant I dont spend (potentially) another month barely leaving my house again.

It's not down to the individual to assess his/her risk IMO because they cannot control who they then pass the virus on to.

Yes I do. Lots of things have been done by this government despite the risk - eat out to help out?

You can't say there is no risk. There is risk in everything, but the key is to weigh up the risk against the importance of the place that's opening. We all want football open, but is it essential right now just after being put in a national lockdown because cases were so high? IMO no, should be discussed absolutely, but shouldn't be happening until after Xmas.

I know it's slightly off topic but also opening indoor venues, are we to believe there's no risk to that either?

Great post , & points well explained

The Huddersfield Chairman Just Been on the radio saying he believes they could deal with %25 capacity ,

but

believes (For the reasons you’ve outlined) that we should wait until the start of next year with vaccines / rapid testing etc  in place , and open up then , with more numbers .

10 hours ago, phantom said:

I really don't understand what you can base this on, I appreciate this is your opinion but please read up on the preventative measures that will be in place. 

Do you honestly think grounds would be being reopened if there was any risk?

It simply wouldn't happen 

Simple logic and common sense really Phants , putting it bluntly

In retort I could ask 

‘Can you guarantee that x thousand people travelling to and attending a game , plus all the staff etc will not cause a spread of the virus to not even one person ?’

With due respect , no you , or anyone else can - the risk may be small , minor , even negligible  but the consequences are , potentially , at least ,high 

I fully understand why fans are so keen to get back in but I’m really unsure the risk levels and timing are right at this time