Better Red

4 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

It really shows though just how threadbare our squad is and what constraints Pearson is working in.

As soon as we even pick a few players or change it up it goes to shit - it's all very well saying change it up (and broadly people seemed pretty happy when it was announced) but if this is what happens then what can he do?

Players like Low and Kadji are our backups at the moment in some positions.

Poor team selection

Poor result

At least 7 of the starting line up are L1 standard.

Why are we so surprised.

Bad management today.

He got it wrong and we have paid the price.

Chis Martin & Andy King in any starting line up is just asking for trouble
 

We have a poor squad we know but then why leave players on the bench for a game we wanted win.

Most players have a month off after Saturday so why rest them.

We look like a bit of a joke tonight.

Gutted really and just so sad we are in this position.

17 minutes ago, Pezo said:

Not disagreeing but this would carry more weight if you posted it in the hour between the team being announced and the kickoff, that would show it was obvious rather a knee jerk reaction to being 0-2 down.

I only posted it 7 days ago

3-0 down

On 01/11/2022 at 23:16, Better Red said:

I thought we played well tonight and we were actually the better team so this is not about the game tonight.

Also to be clear I like NP and I am not asking for a change in manager but..

5 Simple mistakes that I am not sure why he keeps making.

I also think he is now costing us points.

1. Nakhi Wells needs to stay on the pitch when we are chasing a goal. Effort is brilliant, team contribution is brilliant and a goal scorer at this level. Bringing on Sam Bell Saturday for him was a crazy decision and taking him off tonight was equally as bad.

2. Chris Martin should never be brought on when we are chasing a goal.
Slows game down. We go long and lose our pattern and shape up front literally kills any chance of a goal.

I would happily let him go on a free in Jan and pay some of his wages just to get someone else in.

3 Sykes is not a wing back - I think Tanner would be better

4 JD is not a wing back - Pring would be better.

Seen enough in the last 2 games re 4 and 5 to think both would do a better job. Delivery has been poor from both most games and Skye’s could be better used as a sub in a more forward position. Both Tanner and Pring are also better defenders than both.

We also played Scott there which was ridiculous to waste him in that position when clearly needs to play in the central role in Midfield.

Wilson never got a chance and he is a natural wingback again madness.

Wiemann played there tonight - that is also ridiculous.

Nige has to sort out wingbacks it’s a problem he has had all season.

And finally

5. Playing Max in goal.
I know controversial but Bentley makes game saving saves. Max has not done to bad in fairness but I also don’t think he has had a lot to do at the same time.

Bentley will win you points Max has not done that for me when he has played.

We need to get points at the moment and Bentley will win you  more than Max. Maybe this is about his contract but I think it’s costing us points.

Again not about tonight as thought we were good value for at least a point if not all three.

 

 

No 1  - Fail Why are we resting him ? 1 game in the next month

No 2 - Fail Can’t believe he is even on the pitch enough said

No 3 - Fail - Vyner better option if not playing him at CB where he should be

No 4 - Fail  - Pring is so much better

No 5 - Fail Bentley not even good enough tonight contract issue or not - Joke

I can’t put my finger on why it’s not going well tonight.

New mistake to add

6 - Playing Andy King 

                     Max

    Vyner      Klose      Pring

         Williams       James              Scott                             Seymenyo

                Wiemann

           Wells        Conway      Maybe this line up if we keep 352

12 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

With your expertise , and as a UEFA A Licence holder maybe you could take England at the WC , and then pop back after Christmas to take the reigns at Ashton Gate

Maybe take a few dials back on the arrogance though 

 

 

 

Maybe you could just offer an opinion….

Thanks for the compliment though it’s appreciated. 
 

Arrogance - it’s just a few simple thoughts

I thought we played well tonight and we were actually the better team so this is not about the game tonight.

Also to be clear I like NP and I am not asking for a change in manager but..

5 Simple mistakes that I am not sure why he keeps making.

I also think he is now costing us points.

1. Nakhi Wells needs to stay on the pitch when we are chasing a goal. Effort is brilliant, team contribution is brilliant and a goal scorer at this level. Bringing on Sam Bell Saturday for him was a crazy decision and taking him off tonight was equally as bad.

2. Chris Martin should never be brought on when we are chasing a goal.
Slows game down. We go long and lose our pattern and shape up front literally kills any chance of a goal.

I would happily let him go on a free in Jan and pay some of his wages just to get someone else in.

3 Sykes is not a wing back - I think Tanner would be better

4 JD is not a wing back - Pring would be better.

Seen enough in the last 2 games re 4 and 5 to think both would do a better job. Delivery has been poor from both most games and Skye’s could be better used as a sub in a more forward position. Both Tanner and Pring are also better defenders than both.

We also played Scott there which was ridiculous to waste him in that position when clearly needs to play in the central role in Midfield.

Wilson never got a chance and he is a natural wingback again madness.

Wiemann played there tonight - that is also ridiculous.

Nige has to sort out wingbacks it’s a problem he has had all season.

And finally

5. Playing Max in goal.
I know controversial but Bentley makes game saving saves. Max has not done to bad in fairness but I also don’t think he has had a lot to do at the same time.

Bentley will win you points Max has not done that for me when he has played.

We need to get points at the moment and Bentley will win you  more than Max. Maybe this is about his contract but I think it’s costing us points.

Again not about tonight as thought we were good value for at least a point if not all three.

On 23/10/2022 at 15:26, Bryans Left Peg said:

Who died and made you King of OTIB?

It’s a forum.

No one 

And YES it is.

And as such opinions should be respected rather than people making it personal.

Read the threads - I think you are aiming the post at the wrong person.

On 23/10/2022 at 15:52, RedHienz said:

Aww, you are trying really hard aren't you!

When you say something it doesn't make it fact, it's an opinion - whole point of this forum is to share opinions, of which in this case you are wrong.

Tell you what I bet you £100 that AS gets 10 goals this season and 5 assists. Winner takes all what do you say? 

This thread was made to deride a young player. When said player proved you wrong - facts being he was scoring - you shut up. Now the better red / Dog /Lez show is back because the timing suits you, makes you look like an arse.

Help me on this on, using your logic and posts in this ridiculous self opinionated attention seeking thread-  if I swapped AS with Ronaldo who has 1 goal this season by your reasoning Ronaldo is not not a striker because facts. Correct?

I'll not even mention you team selection or tactical masterpiece you shared earlier - hilarious as it was. 

 

 

 

Only trying to forge a conversation (that’s the whole point of OTIB).

Not really proved wrong - read my original post. I have not changed my opinion.

Its still relevant as he ain’t scoring.

As I said if he gets 10 in a season I will change the thread.

Again thanks for feedback but it’s still a long way away from a contribution but keep going.

As for ridiculous - Thanks again for the feed back.

Playing 442 - Yeah it’s like so ridiculous where did I get that from.

Playing Bentley in goal, Naismith in midfield, Wells & Wienmann up front, Vyner RB, Seymenyo wide in midfield who can also join upfront, Pring at leftback, Kalas at CB….

Shall I go on - like you say ridiculous….

And and one more Seymenyo is better wise rather than a striker because I don’t think he will score 10 a season.

All way of the mark…

Ridiculous - me.

Just have a little think before you post.

PS

C7 look at his record - Striker Yes

Seymenyo look at his record - Striker No (not yet)

Hope that helps.

Again thanks for feedback.

3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Tanner RB over Vyner? Scott wide right feels like a waste too- although I suppose an advantage is that Weimann wideish right of a front 3, Semenyo wideish left of a front 3 and Wells central.

Do we drop Naismith even though he gave us some thrust from the back 3. Pring perhaps deserves his chance.

Scott can tuck into a 3 out if possession I suppose, but if not we are numerically disadvantaged and outmanouvered in central areas.

It has some potential, I just see flaws that opposition can exploit and it's not quite for me.

Far enough and yes agree you would look to turn the ball over when we attack likely with 1 or 2 a little to far forward.

Put Vyner in as I think he deserves the shirt at the moment but not against Tanner coming in.

Scott would be involved to move in and act as a floating 10 as long as he tucks  back in when we don’t have the ball. He works hard so don’t see that being a problem.

Both Scott and Seymenyo can break the lines something no of midfielders ever do. We far to static in the middle.

5 hours ago, MarcusX said:

4-4-2, easy as that. Why hasn’t Nige thought of it 

Maybe if he did we be in a better place.

Also injuries at CB means he feels he has needed extra cover in there.

Now he has a fit squad when Kalas and Naismith back he may have that option

55 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

I think the poster is laying out the side left to right as opposed to the usual traditional format of RB CB CB LB as laid out.

Scott right, Semenyo left I'd say.

Irrespective of the layout I don't see that side being a success!

I was trying to do exactly that.

Trying to get the ‘best 11’ on the pitch we have in positions they should be comfortable in. 
 

Also if don’t play well someone to come in and do a job pretty much in same position.

352 does not work for us. We don’t have 2 wingbacks and we look light in midfield most games.

Seymenyo and Scott have the energy to get forward and can also track back.

It looked a fair team to me.

it does show where we are light when you look at replacements

Centre back and Centre are both areas where 1 or 2 injuries and we are big trouble.

55 minutes ago, grifty said:

So you want to play Pring at right back, Vyner at left back, no right winger and "Seymenyo" (whoever that is) somewhere around Row M?

I would have to agree with the clueless bit.

Pring should be left back and Vyner on the right.

Seymenyo on the left in front of Pring.

Again - Clueless thank.

But really if the above is clueless then really I do wonder who is clueless.

51 minutes ago, RedHienz said:

You are still struggling with what an opinion is.

Flattered you are so interested in my posts and opinions. There isn't a quota on posts Vs opinions - poor effort.

I guess from the grammar mistakes you are rattled, try to relax and just inhale the gas you so enjoy. 

Let's be clear - when AS was played as a striker last year before injury, meeting your objective of scoring goals ( coincidentally when you retreated to your hole ) he was a striker. However he didn't score enough goals for your liking when you tried to change the goalposts to coincide with your view that he  wasn't a striker, to which you dragged up this thread to try to prove a point and again garner attention.

Now you are saying zero in 8, it's pure tosh given him being eased in but fits your agenda. You are both needy and ridiculous - my opinion. 

 

Again better.

’But’ if he was scoring goals the thread and your opinions would not be being raised.

I am only quoting the ‘facts’ 

I love you say they suit me agenda. That’s kind of it works…

Goal post never changed - Just read the title of the thread.

Again better but still some work to do.

6 minutes ago, RedHienz said:

Jesus wept.

And you commented I know nothing about football before delivering this tactical masterpiece.

Clueless.

Best 11 players for me in 1 team

Also means competition  for places much stronger pretty much all over the pitch.

Full backs - JD Tanner Wilson

CBack - Klose 

Midfield - James, Massengo, Sykes

Upfront - Conway and Martin

Also plenty of movement for changes within the team Lots of interchange into positions they know.

                Bentley

Pring    Atkinson Kalas     Vyner

          Naismith  Williams          Scott.                          Seymenyo

           Weiman      Wells

Clueless - Thanks 

What about what you ‘think’ why not add some thoughts rather than clueless.

5 minutes ago, RedHienz said:

A debate involves contrasting views being discussed, to which you just keep peddling out the same tosh, telling everyone you are right and then moving the goal posts when challenged. How you are still trying to prove a mute point is frankly hilarious. 

It wasn't feedback, it is an opinion as is this and the below. Happy to help in trying to support any other knowledge gaps you may have.

Given you panache for the resurrection of old threads to A) feed your ego and B) fulfil your need to troll indicates you are not here to debate but rather be a fairly insubstantial sad little ****.

AS played upfront will score goals. As proven through the statistics of playing him upfront and him scoring and assisting goals. 

As wind up merchants go you are poor. 

That is slightly better.

Try to just reflect and comment on the subject rather than Kai throwing out insults.

But still it’s an improvement 

 if you look at your comments are still only 20% ‘opinion’ so a long way to do.

Again thanks for feedback and the improved contribution and comment.

As for scoring goals it’s zero in eight…. 

3 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

My point is that it directly disproves this statement  Clubs were making £10m bids for Semenyo after he spent last season playing as a striker?

 

But did they…

In our position £10m and he would have been gone.

We could even play 442 play him wide on either side.

Sykes could give him some completion.

We could play an actual Right and Left back.

It would would create a lot competition for places maybe 2 players for every position.

1 hour ago, Negan said:

Sorry if it’s been said and I’ve missed it but I thought Nige said it was a 10 day injury? Jesus wept we need him back in the defence. Don’t rate Klose at all, he can do a job but don’t think he should be starting consecutive games. Be great to see Kalas and Naismith back there, hopefully sometime soon. 

Need his passing that’s for sure

1 hour ago, Supersonic Robin said:

He spent all of last season playing as a striker, which led to clubs bidding around £10m for him in summer?

He may have been player there but that don’t make who one.

JD is playing as a wingback…

And Sykes for that matter.

Also Scott played there.

David James once played upfront for Man City.

Swallow and Summers and all that..

2 minutes ago, Packman said:

Wide of a front 3 isn't a winger though is it?

Not Striker.

For me he would be so much better wider and his pretty good now he help the team out.

When we had Albert he was a great winger, scored goals and dragged the team forward.

Albert was a brilliant player for us.

All I am saying is I think he could do that role for us.

And Seymenyo has strength as well.

2 minutes ago, RedHienz said:

You are honestly ridiculous. 

Ridiculous post. Ridiculous comments. 

Great contribution 

Ridiculous - Playing Seymenyo wider will make us better is so far wide of the mark - You really think so? 

Maybe you just don’t get what a debate is about and I guess football from your comments.

Have an opinion that’s all I am saying - not right, not wrong but certainly not ridiculous.

But thanks for the feedback

Took a lot of stick to this post 2 years ago and it is often brought up when he scores.

For me nothing changed play him wide in a front three and ‘we’ would be a better and ‘he’ would be better player.

Not posting to gloat as obviously he can score at this level ‘but’ we need some pace out wide and he’s everything we need and for me we would be a ‘better’ team and you can leave Wells to play through the middle (who will score 10 plus goals)

I said if he scores 10 league goals in a season I will change the title  - not ready to do that for the minute

But can’t we just move him wide and then we may have that £10m player no one’s paying that for a ‘Striker’ who get 10 a season.

Is he a good player - Yes

Is he a Striker - Still no from me

Is he a winger - Yes for me.

1 hour ago, 1960maaan said:

I would say the fact he gets both hands in a position to catch the ball (until Kalas intervenes ) says to me he was in position. I was always told the Keeper calls it's his ball. There is no Millwall player challenging , I think it's reasonable t think he could walk out and catch it to his chest. 

Anyway, moving on. 
What I mean about unmarked men.
First goal 3 players allowed to run and end up free, one getting a good free header.

2nd goal

4 City players marking thin air to the left (this angle) , the Goalscorer , unmarked to the right

 

1st goal - palms to left they don’t score

2nd goal he is almost in the south stand 

Both look like his fault to me

43 minutes ago, Cowshed said:

You do not catch a ball when entering a line. The keeper should punch it. Why because of the variables and the result underlines it.

 

Runners where not tracked and ball watching. The cross was superb.

Starts compact and in a line, and leaves because of the Keeper going. 

The shape was fine v a straight ball until the keeper intervenes. 

How far out is he…  

Anybody he thinks he should be out that far is just palm and simple wrong as proven in the actual game.

It looked stupid live looks even worse when you watch the replay.