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Just now, Selred said:

Not a red for me, still work to do for Knight and the other defending coming over 

Having to listen to a bias Wednesday commentary and they thought it was a sending off

Cam looks like he is struggling, poor for the goal and just beaten again

Just now, Curr Avon said:

 

No Twine?

9 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said:

If you look at this, we are about average in terms of injuries.

https://www.sportsgambler.com/injuries/football/england-championship/

Ive not fact checked it, but the bookies are usually correct

No good putting facts like that on here, that will not help those who want to endlessly attack the club

Although nowhere near as bad statistically, but generally I think we score very few from outside the box, TGH springs to mind and for a couple of games under LM we started to get a lot of longer range shots off, but in general we don't shoot very much even when it's been a very wet skiddy surface.

Thought he should have come on when Bell went off, needed that bit of quality 

43 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

Just noticed it's fake news with a logo to look like sky sports

Appointed big Sam as new manager

Did seem to be their 12th man with some strange decisions

With talk of players coming back (except big rob, hopefully not to serious), if by some miracle we had a fully fit squad, ignoring form or not deserved to be dropped, what is our best starting eleven? think i like the look of

                O'Leary

McCrorie Vyner Dickie Pring

    Knight Naismith Williams

    Skyes Conway Twine

I may need to swap Nailsmith & Williams, also difficult call between Dickie & Atkinson

2 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Fair enough you have that opinion. 

I think the change made it more difficult for us. Let's not pretend it was a tactical masterclass when in the second half we were shite and the changes invited the pressure we were put under. 

As someone else on here mentioned, against Leeds we didn't make any in game changes and ended the game on a whimper. 

Yesterday we made in game changes and just about got across the line. 

If you like it or not there is a over arching concern about in game management. 

 

Not sure who is pretending it was some sort of masterclass, but it did result in a win, 

Had we not just played 120 minutes against a prem side with significant travelling, the change would have been more questionable.

Dickie towards the end of the game was like running in treacle and could hardly move.

All decisions are easy with hindsight, but not so easy in game when you are up against what the opposition do and having to manage other factors like injury and tiredness 

30 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

It so nearly didn't. That's why there is debate. Boro came close a few times and they had a goal ruled out which looked to be onside.

So I think it's debatable to say the change obviously paid off. 

It's not debatable the change paid off, fact we won, despite you trying to twist it that an onside goal was not aloud, therfore they drew really.

It is debatable what may have happened to the result had we not changed, we may have continued as we were or the very obvious tiredness of certain players may have become worse and cost us the game.

Thats the 4 points that most said before this run of very hard games would be a good return, particularly on the back of all the FA cup games where we have been superb against prem sides. Southampton I think will be even more difficult than Leeds, even more so with players who looked totally out on there feet towards the end yesterday, but you never know what this game can bring.

Well to read this its just as well we did not lose or draw as would have been a major melt down

I watched the game, its possible to say the shape change handed them some initiative, but equally we do not know what would have happened had we not changed, a part from  loads of threads saying why did we not change and look after our lead if we ended up with 1 or 0 points.

I think its very unlikely we could have kept up the pressing and closing down we did in the 1st half to create the control we had, especially as tiredness kicked in and Boro were also unlikely to be as bad after a rocket at half time.

It was a superb attacking and defensive performance and don't think criticism is deserved particularly after 120minutes against a prem team, where we were the better side

Only negative I had during the game was how lazy Conway was, he must have been close to being subbed as a sub 

That was hard work from players who looked out on there feet, blood guts and determination  well done boys, much needed 3 points

Cam still looks struggling from the knock earlier 

We are looking leggy now , particularly Dickie

2 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

I'm confused, I thought the reason we took Conway off was with today in mind? It makes no sense. 

Perhaps picked up a knock or wanting to bring on as a lively sub

Wonder if Twine will be fit, Mehmeti and Bell put in a big shift against forest, so may need Twine and adire as replacements.

Just watched the game in full, thought excellent performance and listening at the time it did not come across how good some of the play and pressing was, just after forest scored we had a 30 pass move that ends in a Bell shot 

Still can't believe Wells did not score

1 hour ago, BigTone said:

Had pre op scans today ready for my second knee replacement and having trouble walking after.  Other than that the wine is chilled !!!

Condensed version

Bloody knee, must get pissed

Hope all goes well

Shame they don't do it at the gate, would make the toilet cubicles a lot less busy at half time

Match report from Forest fan

Forest started in business like fashion, opening the scoring with a goal from Origi, which from my seat in Block R of the LBC looked to have been bundled over the line by Origi’s arm (VAR proving me wrong!!!), but that was the zenith of our 90-minute performance. What followed was a spirited Bristol city performance, a lack-lustre forest performance, and a Bristol equalizer 5 minutes after our opener. Controversy rages about the Bristol goal. Bandwagon-jumpers blame Matt Turner, but that is a total misrepresentation of the facts. Fact: no outfield player bothered to try and close down any Bristol player allowing Andy King, who all his long career has demonstrated a shooting ability from distance. Fact: Kings powerful shot was well-aimed at the top corner of Turners goal. Fact: Turner flung his tall frame athletically across the goal to finger tip the ball onto the inside of the post. Fact: not a single Forest player reacted to the ball as it flew across the goal-mouth to strike the far post. Fact: Turner valiantly tried to stop the unmarked Knight’s shot from close range – the only Forest player to make any effort to close Knight down, or get a block in.

For the rest of the half, Bristol played at pace, with accurate passing, while Forest produced a comedy of errors that Shakespeare would have dismissed as being too farcical to include in a comedy drama. A back-3 formation does require the wing backs ahead of them to put in a lot of effort. Montiel on the right was like a rabbit in the headlights, and failed to make a meaningful interception, or block, or tackle until very late on when he raced back to slide in and prevent Cornick from going through on goal, and in so doing he injured himself and had to be substituted. Montiel for me is a total liability, and needs to be replaced. Toffolo on the left put in a lot more running, but despite his consistent efforts game after game, he was sadly ineffective on the night.

As a result of the lack of quality in front of him, Turner was called on several times to make excellent diving saves. Despite the nervousness of the crowd, he also acquitted himself far more confidently with his feet on the many occasions he was called upon to deal with back-passes.

Despite the difference in league standings, Bristol looked to be the better team when in possession, but Forest’s quality players did show flashes of what they are capable of, but it was all too infrequent, and too many wrong decisions were made, and too many passes went astray. Both teams created some decent openings, but were equally profligate in front of goal, the most glaring example falling to Nakhi Wells, who will probably not have Felipe on his Christmas Card list after last night, who somehow knitted an Arran sweater out of his legs to miss the ball, and the open goal from about 2 feet from the goal line.

Montiel’s withdrawal saw the introduction of 18-year old Academy star, Joe Gardner, who made a crunching tackle immediately he came onto the pitch, and he continued to play a spary cameo throughout extra-time, linking well with Neco Williams. Williams got into good positions in the Bristol penalty area a couple of times in those excruciating extra-time minutes, and from the best he opted to try and blast the ball through the city keeper from a tight angle, rather than cutting back to the unmarked Hudson-Odoi, waving his arms to let Williams know “I’m here, I’m unmarked, and I will score”.

So penalties, and hero Turner did his bit, saving City’s 2nd penalty. The forest penalty takers (MGW, Williams, CHO, Niakhate, and Taiwo all performed splendidly, their spot kicks each beating the keeper for Forest to win a thoroughly undeserved place in the 5th Round. It was genuinely heart-warming to see Niakhate, himself a penalty squanderer at AFCON, go over to console the Bristol player who missed. It was also heart-warming to see the normally quiet and calm NES do a lap of honour with his players, waving to the crowd.

A word on the crowd: never before have I heard a City Ground home crowd so silent and moribund, while the 3,000 travelling Bristol fans were loud and proud throughout the whole game. Also, the day-trippers around us seemed unable to sit in their seats for more than 5-minutes at a time – up and down they were like a whore’s drawers as they felt the need to go and fetch pies, tuffies, or visit the bogs.

Player Ratings:

Turner: 8 – easily the Forest MOTM, with a string of excellent saves to keep us in the game;

Some more highlights, this time from Forest