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9 minutes ago, The Coach said:

Wouldn’t surprise me if Sheffield United gave him a chance this summer.

I presumed they appointed Wilder as they had accepted relegation and wanted to bring back someone who had got them up before?

19 hours ago, IAmNick said:

Would have loved him to have come here, really hope it's somewhere decent and he makes a good job of it.

There was no chance of that ever happening:

“I would work for a Championship team without a problem,” he says, "providing they are open, honest and ambitious"

1 hour ago, Mendip City said:

Remember the last time we bought their best player? Whatever happened to Szmodics??

Didn't we sell him to Peterbrough? Got him from Colchester didn't we?

1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Ah you mean Sheffield United last season? A Parachute club too.yes their financial trajectory was set to swing into the red.

They also had Cash flow and Transfer Payment issues.

Hence why they actually spent very conservatively last Summer. They may not be shouting it's their aim but I believe they're taking the money and running to get themselves out of a pretty bleak hole.

1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Bournemouth and QPR most certainly . Pre the 3 year points deduction Rule, see also Leicester albeit QPR wwre in breach of that in receipt.

Sheffield United not so sure. In theory the improved present and future monitoring could prevent breaches before they occur.

Maybe they didn't breach but it was my understanding that if they didn't achieve promotion last season they would have had to sell players in the Summer to comply. That's kind of a breach if not quite actually one.

7 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Nottingham Forest were one I would suggest could've been.

Wolves with the Mendes stuff another.

Leeds were cited but worth remembering that thete was no standalone Test to 2020 due to Covid and when you added in 2019-20 and 2020-21 and halved and the £50-55.5m for the Upper Loss limit they passed.

Has they not gone up, issues. Likewise Wolves in 2018. Maybe Brighton have to retrench in 2017-18 without.

My potential examples would have been Bournemouth, Sheff Utd and QPR. Seems quite a few may only achieve because they bend the rules.

4 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

@W-S-M Seagull @cheese

Plus anyone else.

Parachute Payments, it can be done- see also Huddersfield but how far back to we want to go, what sort of sample size are we looking at.

Ipswich seem to have pulled a 1 in 20 type season, Brighton had infrastructure but also some big spending, Leeds also big spending and top manager, Wolves ditto.

The first scenario is what % of Parachute Payments clubs vs non Parachute Payments clubs over x years get Automatic Promotion.

Then what % reach the top 6.

Lastly what % go up vs non Parachute Payments clubs.

The stars truly have to align or you have to catch that magic season in a bottle as Ipswich seem to have done, the momentum can carry you. The rules hindered us in 2017-18, and arguably 2015-16 on one level it caused a need for caution or a perceived need. 1 year vs 3 year.

Ipswich I look through and it defies rationale really, some capable but not amazing Championship players some over 30 competing with and in 2 cases we expect outmatching Parachute bolstered big clubs for the level in Leeds, Leicester and Southampton.

It's also worth assessing which non-parachute payment achieved promotion by flouting the FFP rules at the time. I can think of at least 3 potential examples.

11 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Last one of the season…not a huge amount, headline is that he’d let Scott Twine marry his daughter, drink his beer and pretty much do anything he likes from the way he talks about him…

 

 

- Pring and James have both had minor surgeries so will be missing Saturday

- Asked the one thing he’s learnt from being head coach - would need time to reflect and can’t answer - notes he overanalyses but would like to go away and analyse in the summer L. Learnt about division, group, culture. “When you come in you come in with your own philosophies but there are things I have to adapt, have to tweak and understand the culture and expectations of the club”. Will take the summer to learn and ensure he’s better next season.

- Detailed the sponsored 24 hour walk next weekend in support of CHSW link: https://www.justgiving.com/page/bcfc-10yfan-challenge?utm_campaign=lc_frp_share_transaction_fundraiser_page_launched&utm_content=0aa903ca-73da-49f2-b2d1-b2792791e424&utm_medium=email&utm_source=postoffice&utm_term=1711873205588

- Retained list will come out next week

- Recruitment -  conversations are constant, ready to move quickly as needed. Have plan A but don’t want to wait until the last minute and need to make a decision to move on as needed

- Ideally would like signings in for pre season training so the earlier the better. 

- Would like to keep Twine - thought terrific against Watford. Taken ST a few games to get up to speed but excellent against Norwich/Rotherham. Fits the style, fits the group, is best when he has freedom and LM doesn’t want to stifle him. Thinks he puts in a big shift without the ball, on the ball brings others into play, takes risks, turns the right way often in terms of awareness

- Wouldn’t rule loans out next year - in house first, then permanent, then loan with option, then loan only as last resort

- The plan is that Bell, Benarous, Naismith, Atkinson will be available pre season and there is some spare time built into recovery plans

- Vyner will be available for the weekend 

- James hasn’t definitely played his last game for us. Hes done a terrific job, more meetings next week

- Doesn’t get involved in contract talks when asked re Williams and Tinnion contract offer - Williams approaching peak, wants him to stay but sure that there will be competition for his signing

- Thinks we’re getting penalties as we get the ball in the right areas, previously had the ball outside the box but now have it in the box and players are being brave/taking risks

And breathe…

 

Oh, is Tinnion out of contract?

7 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

Hmmm

New poster

Male name

Joins an hour ago

First post is to resurrect a thread from one month ago and compliment one of the only posters per username that is clearly female.

GILES!!!!

I'm looking out for more canine connections.

1 hour ago, DeParis said:

It also makes him very hard to shift, can’t see there being any takers anywhere.

Sadly true.

3 hours ago, Crimson Crayola said:

I think Kai could be useful for us next season. Defence still looks a little light so we'd have to replace him if we got rid, which would involve more fees plus the fact that he came from Luton when we were being frugal means I can't see him being on a huge wedge.

As an aside I saw him in Nailsea Touts yesterday and didn't realise he was as tall as he is. (I am a short a## though).

I think we made him one of our highest earners to persuade their PotY to join us. I’m pretty sure Jones complained about not being able to compete with us. At a guess I’d expect him to be on between £12-15k per week. If I’m correct, that brings in better than cover.

3 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Stokes is a bit more of an attack minded player I thought?

Naismith can also slot into central midfield or deeper anyway, as well as CB in a back 4 and into a back 3. 

I hope we can retain Williams and James...

Well he could, if he was ever fit. If anyone came in for him I’d take the opportunity to free ourselves of his wage.

2 hours ago, One Team said:

He looks a great player and scored a superb goal yesterday, but surely it’s going to be odd for him to leave the positivity of a promotion winning team and a club the size of Derby to come to us. It’ll be interesting to see how he gets on, but good luck to the lad he looks good.

If things go our way over the next 7 days, he could yet be joining a top 10 side to soften the blow.

A point raised in commentary yesterday was Max's save percentage so I did a bit of looking at stat websites today. It seems that, with Max ever-present, we have the best save percentage in the division. Now they may be easier shots than some others, but I'm fine with that if this is part of our defensive unit performing well.

Just now, Andy082005 said:

Conway throwing himself about all over the place.

Don’t rate that at all 

That’ll be all that training on the grass.

Let’s go!

1 minute ago, petehinton said:

Mehmeti

Watching the replay the only real chance to shoot was outside the area.

23 minutes ago, Stockwood gate said:

Yes you can but only by telephone I did it this afternoon no problem at all, moved a block over 

Yay, common sense exists in Supporter Services!

Just now, BCFC1512 said:

So I can’t move seats in the south stand?? Showing as nothing available, surely it’s not sold out!!

No new sales are allowed. If you're already in the SS, you might get some success if you directly contact Supporter Services as common sense dictates you'd just be moving from one part to another. But do they have common sense?

14 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

I’d be surprised if we didn’t hit 10k - the 8k mentioned by Marshall was as at Thursday, and many left it late to renew as we know.

But I’d be equally surprised if there was a large number of seat moves. People will be reticent to move from the South Stand as they can’t get back there now. Possibly a few hundred overall.

The number of 15000 mentioned as this seasons figure on the pod and ambition to grow it do feel unlikely for a number of reasons. Ultimately ST holders miss odd games but the volume missing from several recent games does suggest a degree of disillusion.

My guess is we hit around 12-13k sales overall. Down on last year due to several reasons:

- Disillusion and dissatisfaction with club hierarchy (think that’s #1)

- Cost of living crisis remains ongoing and it becomes a necessary or reasonable sacrifice

- Unhappiness with management/style in some quarters 

- The new TV deal (I think that’s a tiny factor - the club haven’t publicised and it won’t be known unless you look)

It’s still a decent number and bigger than our neighbours capacity. Won’t be any joy from me if the number is down but if the hierarchy think the main reason is anything but them then I think they’re probably not reading the room

I also think a small factor to add to your point about the Cost of Living crisis, there may be non-season ticket holders who fancy picking one up but because the club are saving the freed spots in the South Stand for individual matchday sales, are priced out of it.

2 hours ago, Puckle_red said:

A midfield player who rarely scores, doesn't run with the ball, isn't strong in the air, rarely passes forward and is injury prone. But he tries really hard and makes rash tackles - seems a perfect fit for a Bristol City midfielder at this level.

I wonder if this part is accurate as, in my mind, Joe is our CM most likely to look to play incisive forward passes this season. But he does have the odd game where his passing is atrocious. Fortunately those have been fewer of late imo.

Just now, Davefevs said:

I still think we need a no10, just think there are better fits and better value options than Twine.

Oh 100%, that's why I said still sign one....just not at Twine's price.
If LM wants to play 2 AMCs then we need more than Mehmeti, Sykes and Stokes as the options because we must never play Knight there, he's too important / better further back.

4 minutes ago, Leabrook said:

Those of us that said sack him have to start admitting soon that we got it wrong. He’s making progress. Seagulls might not like it but that’s what’s happening 

Of all Manning's games, I think today was actually my favourite despite not winning. I believe Norwich had won something like 8 straight home games and we went there and with different officials might have won that game 2-0. But I was more pleased that after a pretty decent 1st half, we didn't follow it up with a turgid 2nd and actually played better in the second period imo. I feel like the players looked more confident in their touches and passing too which gives me more confidence that Liam could have us on the right path at last.

34 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Indeed.

Sat here tonight, not that it really matters, I think he’s earned the chance to take us into the summer.  How big of me!

To explain (all imho), I think there’s been enough from the turn in performances since Easter to think we aren’t gonna revert to the turgid stuff that for me was more the norm than the Southampton / FA Cup games / performances.

There are still some concerns, but if we carry on with the bit more intent shown, taking opportunities to win the ball high-up for example then I think Leicester, Blackburn and today are more representative of how we will play than Sunderland on reflection.  I think playing Knight deeper is more the causation than Twine which is correlation.  I felt Knight did an admirable job playing the role he did, but he’s much more effective for the team playing from a deeper role.

So, I’m out of “sack Manning” territory.

I feel like Mehmeti has potentially shown enough promise there to make Twine too expensive (as if he wasn't already) and we may do well to look at bringing in another project to develop into that role (alongside Stokes) as you could view the initial Mehmeti signing.

Aside from his goal I think having someone as comfortable on the ball as Roberts as one of the 3 CBs (along with Dickie) stops this system being as negative as some variants are.

Norwich gave MotM to their goalie.