italian dave

Ha ha….thanks. I suppose there are some benefits to being able to hear f### all ?

That last sentence……brilliantly put! I don’t know what the social media equivalent of a tablet of stone is, but whatever it is it deserves to go on one as an epitaph to LJs tenure here, and to be wheeled out every time the subject comes up!

Yes, I was. Turning up the volume just distorts everything even more, doesn’t it? It’s not the volume that’s the issue.

What happened?

Did he have a brief chat with the referee too?

They do that at Blackburn (probably other places too) and it’s really good. Yellow cards, subs etc. I’m not sure our screens are big enough though. When they put the whole opposition 11 up on one screen before the game it’s too small to read from the other side of the ground. But before we start rethinking the scoreboard, please please please can we figure out how to make the PA system audible in the Dolman…..??

Ha ha. Not just in the US though. There was a post on the politics forum recently (I know many don’t go there!) about a survey in the UK It asked about Sunak’s commitment to halve inflation - from 10% to 5%. 40% of people thought that meant that a £1 bottle of milk would cost £1 or less. More than the 34% who thought it would cost £1.05.

Not best pleased with the way the game was going? Or not best pleased with what the spectator was saying?

Very true, Pete. And I don’t think they are a bad side either. Certainly not in the Blackpool or Reading bracket. When we won up there they looked really good for a fair chunk of the game. It was only when we went ahead, against the run of play, that you could almost see the confidence drain out of them. And their reaction after their equaliser yesterday was not one of a team that saw the opportunity to snatch a point - they wanted to get on and take all three.

Yep, and you’re right: it was getting stale and going wrong, and it was clear that SL had expected that season to be at least a top 6 finish. Ironically, we went from being on course for that to it seeming beyond us in the space of a couple of months at most. So I don’t think many people would argue with that, or with it being the right decision at the time. But to say that we consistently failed to improve our league position under LJ - which is where this started - is simply re-writing history to suit an agenda.

All may well be true. But completely avoids the point of @grifty ‘s post, which is your statement above lamenting “his failure to improve City’s league position season on season”. That is evidently nonsense.

Mustn’t Grumble…….Chas & Dave

In fairness, your seat in the SS is about as far away from the incident as possible!! Looked it from my seat in the Dolman too mind ?

Conway and Bell……..next best thing ?? Won’t miss it three times though….??

That one wasn’t particularly silly though, was it?

There’s a depressingly positive and optimistic reaction to that team. Never ends well when OTIB starts that positive ??

I’ve no problem with people who aren’t genuine refugees being sent away. But the point I was trying to make is that genuine refugees, and specifically genuine victims of modern slavery, will be sent packing without having any opportunity to make their case. We’ll be refusing genuine victims of slavery any protection. Is that right? ”These people” aren’t housed in luxury, and the reason we run up such massive bills is that the Home Office chooses (some would argue deliberately) to not assess their applications properly and promptly. And to keep them in abeyance for months or even years. Those costs are on our government, not asylum seekers. Once they’ve been assessed and are genuine then would I be prepared to have my tax bill adjusted to pay for them? Very definitely. There are various ways of calculating the net cost to the country so different studies come up with different conclusions. Some calculate a net benefit to the economy - so I’d be quids in there, my taxes would go down. But even the ones that calculate a net cost suggest a very small one - one that would work out to no more than a few ££s on my bill. Plus, at the end of the day, they’ll be the people providing my health and social care when I need it and they’ll be the people paying the taxes to pay for it.

Since this thread is evidently now being completely derailed by the usual suspect, I’m off. But just to say thanks @spudski for a good thread and discussion this morning.

That’s a good point. Put a rail in front of my seat in the Dolman and there wouldn’t be room to stand up even if you wanted to! And some of my larger neighbours would need to be prised out at the end of a game.

Shoulda Woulda Coulda……..Beverley (K)night

And that would achieve what? (surprised to hear you suggesting it though!)

It’s a tough one, isn’t it? I agree with @spudski on this, in principle, and in relation to the specific examples he gives. We do have a genuine choice about something things. And when it comes to things like car washes and nail bars, well known as the sort of places that abuse people in that way, then just using them without any regard is unforgivable. And if you’re looking at a pair of jeans that costs £5 then that has to beg some pretty significant questions about how it was produced. But it’s a lot tougher when it comes to mobile phones…… But yes, I do also agree that it can be used to shut down or deliberately detract from debate - it’s about like the inevitable ‘have you offered to share your house with an asylum seeker’ post that appears in any debate on that subject.

Exactly what the article is about, and a @Hxj has already mentioned, part of a series that focuses on precisely that. So, no, they didn’t ‘chuck a few quid to make it go away’. Complete nonsense.

Off subject slightly (maybe no bad thing) but we drive over that canal to and from so many away games (not to mention other journeys) and often comment on the fact that you never ever see anything on it nowadays. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a single vessel. It’s hard to believe it was ever such a bustling waterway. - and also that it couldn’t serve a better purpose nowadays.

In that instance, I think we could all agree that a complete ban, the appropriation and sale of all assets, and the erasure of all records and results connected with the club would be the appropriate action.