italian dave

Who or what initiates it can be very hard to define and pin down though, can’t it? I wouldn’t say that it’s never been our thing: there have been games and times even at sleepy old Ashton Gate where it’s happened. And it’s not always the case at either Forest (I’ve been there with City when they’ve been in relegation trouble and the atmosphere has been toxic) or at Everton (as the Major has already referred to). Sometimes, during a game, it can be something as simple as a player going in for a proper tackle, or a referee making a particularly inept decision, that can suddenly switch the crowd on. And other times when you go expecting the crowd to really get behind the players it just doesn’t seem to happen. But Id like to think that in a similar position to Forest or Everton we’d really get behind the team whatever.

Ballad of Ronald Reagan……..The Austin Lounge Lizards.

Last time I checked, the advice on the OS was to not invade the pitch. Good enough for me. ?

You’re too kind ?? I’d also like to make the point that all three of the relegated sides this season…..heading for the dubious pleasure of a trip to the Mem next season……are teams that have played in the Premier League. Something we’ve never achieved. Barely a decade ago two of them - Blackpool and Wigan - met on the opening day of the PL season. I’m not sure quite what that proves……but maybe a reassuring thought as we cement our Championship mid-table mediocrity!

And Kasey Palmer has done well for them. Because they bought him for, and consistently played him in, a role that played to his strengths as a player. Thats a lesson we have taken a long time to learn - and I’m still not 100% convinced we have. Good post though: yep, sums up the frustration!

I Shot the Sheriff……..Bob Marley and the Wailers

Depends how you define progress. The focus of this thread is very much about success of the pitch measured by results and league position. And on that basis you’re being very unfair on the Johnson/Ashton period. Every season we won more games than the last, improved our GD and improved our league position. Hardly a case of ‘flattered to deceive……going backwards’? And our progress in the last season has been far less impressive, season on season, principally turning a few defeats into draws each season. Yes, I know there’s more to it than that, and up to a point I’m playing devil’s advocate. But I think we had real success during those four years and that can’t just be airbrushed out of history. Yes, we made some huge mistakes: letting Ashton have free reign for one, not having a serious plan B in place for either his or Johnson’s departure - both of which left us in complete limbo. And at the worst possible time during the first year of the pandemic with all that involved.

No! But I think most would agree that, for instance, Bournemouth last season were a different league to Sheff U, Luton, Boro and Burnley this season. In a funny way, I think Luton might be the most likely of those four to stay up next. They play that sort of style that PL teams take a while to adapt to…..and if they can get enough points on the board before that happens then they could just survive. If they get there!

Riot…….3D Production

If we hadn’t done that then we really should have been embarrassed! I do get the attraction of the kitsch and the excess and the sheer bizarreness of the competition, but their song this year was truly awful!

Think the latest sentence is the crucial one. I can’t see how they’d get a safety certificate for a stand that doesn’t have planning consent.

I was able to get to that infamous end of season game at Twerton only because I used a work colleague's Rovers season ticket. (I hadn't been able to go to the original game that was postponed, so didn't have a ticket for the rearranged game - he was abroad on holiday having expected the season to finish the Saturday before). His seat was bang in the middle of their main stand. So, having successfully negotiated all the police ticket checks as a 40 year old using a 'senior' season ticket, I planned my approach of keeping my mouth shut and my real affiliation quiet. But when I got there I was greeted with all around me saying "Ah, you're the City fan with Ron's ticket...he told us you'd be here...."!! I don't leave games early - but that was the exception! 20 minutes or so!

Oh, agree 100% - it's a trade off. I just have kittens whenever he has the ball at his feet within 20m of our penalty area! And, seriously, it's why some players, whose game is all about the inch perfect passes for a striker to run onto, don't always feature highly in 'success' terms. Only one in ten may come off, but if that one in ten results in a goal!

Who said Vyner can't pass. Great season Zak! (OK,OK, I know half of those are across the back 3/4 - but even then at least it's not a Kal Naismith pass straight to an incoming forward ?)

Trying to get this thread back on topic……we got pretty wet standing in the away ‘patch’ at the Memorial that night we sent the Gas down. Mind you, we could have drowned that night and still enjoyed it.

Senza Una Donna…….Zucchero

That’s from the recently submitted planning application for the South and South West stands at the Memorial, isn’t it?

Crocodile Tears……Nancy Sinatra

A Salty Dog……Procul Harum

This is going to be one of those summer threads that regularly hit the top of the page with new posts, that you open with anticipation that the posts will be about whether he’s gone/is staying, only to find that it’s a discussion about whether he goes chirp or cheep ?

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/eurovision/hannah-waddingham-eurovision-host-game-of-thrones-b2338326.html

Imagine…..John Lennon and the Plastic Ono Band

Twice!

Easton in Gordano……Adge Cutler & The Wurzels

I agree completely with Spudski’s proposition, but I think that’s entirely different Riaz’s point - and I think I completely disagree with that! Im not sure what you mean by ‘in correlation to…’ but assume from your later comment that you mean ‘at the same level as’? In my mind, MPs do a hugely important job and the last thing we need is for theirs to be yet another profession where we struggle to get good people to do the job. There are a lot of good, decent people, on both sides of the house, who are doing a good job. But there are also a lot of incompetent people who are there for the wrong reasons. You’ve got to discourage people from doing it for the wrong reasons (as per Spudski’s point) but you’ve also got to encourage the right people by giving them the appropriate rewards. And that means a good salary, for what is a demanding and pretty thankless task in its own right.