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Watkins 3 goals in 27 games, Cornick 2 in 31…

Genuine question… would people prefer Watkins or Cornick given a choice? Feel Cornick is the better player, but Watkins with the better record, if you can call it that!

Is this not part of the issue though? They are not championship ready but have to be involved. Yeboah is a prospect but clearly not ready to championship football and ideally would suit a lower league loan, but we can’t afford him that. Yes he has energy and has shown glimpses, hence me saying he is a prospect, but he looks out of his depth when he plays ability wise.

Exactly right. The only thing Manning has done wrong is be the person the board wanted. It could have been anyone and it would have been the same reaction. Every decision Manning makes, every result that goes against us, people will be pointing fingers purely based on the fact that he shouldn’t be here. All he can do is win us round with fantastic football, which feels a long way off.

I keep seeing people mentioned “chances” but I don’t know what chances these were? Sykes smashed one wide just before the goal, then there was the goal, then Conway forced a save. I can’t remember any other chances. What ones am I missing? Norwich seemed to have more. Blasting one over the bar, hitting the post, few long range efforts.

The only reason we are not talking about a relegation fight is the fact there are four worse clubs than us in the league, but even one of them is now picking up points. A new manager should bring a resurgence to the club. This is anything but…

There was just no understanding between him and Pring either, looked like they had never met before.

Again, if you think it’s unfair then blame the board and the expectations they have set. Manning didn’t come in with the ship sinking, needing to turn things around. He came in inheriting a “top 6 squad”. He has the job of getting the squad where the board expect them to be and where Pearson was failing. There are no signs of that happening within the first four games. It’s been worse than it was before he came in! Boring, possession based football with little for fans to be excited about.

And he will probably be judge more harshly under the circumstances he came in. We had a popular manager who was building steadily and fans were patient with. The board decided it wasn’t good enough and want promotion, Manning the one being chosen by them and agreeing to take the task on. That’s just how it is. Succeed and get the fans behind him. Unfortunately after 4 games I struggle to see that happening.

I don’t want Manning gone, but I never wanted him in! Pearson should still be here. I want the board gone. Manning being unsuccessful shows the boards complete incompetence. Manning was bought in to move the club forward. He had everything in place to do so according to those who decided he was going to be our saviour. Until this happens he will get criticised by me and others.

Just started a thread about Sykes being played on the right. Would have added it to this had I seen it before posting.

Needs to be played on the right hand side. He looks completely lost on the left. Our goal today followed quickly by Conway’s chance both came from Sykes down the right hand side. Start of the second half he is back on the left and taken off for some reason not long into the second half. It was clear Bell should have come on for Weimann with Sykes moving to the right.

We seem to be able to play a decent standard of football between the 30th min and half time if we are lucky. The rest of the time is dire. There is no purpose to anything we do.

Anyone know of one? I can’t prove anything obviously, but I would say an experienced championship manager would have got us 3 points at QPR and another 3 points today. The board seeing that the grass isn’t always greener!

Haha, no, that is just a family outing! The inspiration for a 7 year old is supposed to be Sunday.

Amazon is great if you know what you want. Shopping for a 7 year old needs inspiration.

Being dragged to Bath market

I’m in two minds about going. If it was a Saturday I would have been there. We had planned on going Christmas shopping Sunday before I realised what day the game was. Right now, Christmas shopping is more appealing than sitting in the cold watching boring football.

Is that the reason for the change in management though? Why make the change and expect the same results? If it’s about slow progress, again, why make the change?

Not relevant

QPR = shocking (not buying this “he was only here a couple of days” rubbish, it was QPR!!!) Boro = shocking first 30 mins, threw away a 2 goal lead early in the second half (clearly no fault of Mannings with the individual mistakes) but dug in and got the win. Southampton = was always gonna be tough so hard to judge. But there was just nothing to get excited about. So far I am not seeing whatever it is that we were supposed to see from Manning. He inherited a top 6 squad. Yes I’m going to be overly critical due to the circumstances around his arrival, but his arrival happened as he was supposed to be our saviour. So far it’s been 2 and a half games of dire football. What is it about this forward thinking coach am I not getting???

He can say all the right things as much as he wants. There are only two things that will matter, performances and results.

Taking my daughter next week on her 19th birthday. Not sure if an under 19 ticket would be applicable to her or if they ask for id? Could anyone confirm please

Great prospect. Could argue he doesn’t get enough game time at Man City to warrant a place in the squad but we know that doesn’t matter with Southgate! Two points to remember though. Firstly, he wasn’t called up to begin with, he came in because of injuries. Secondly, there is nothing riding on these games so why not give him the experience.

Sometimes people might want to. What’s it to do with anyone else?