SecretSam

Did anyone else get an Alex Scott echo in Mainoo's little burst that led to the goal?

17 hours ago, pillred said:

Has anybody who's appealed ever NOT had their punishment cut? it seems to me that you get an 8-point deduction appeal, and immediately it's reduced to 4.

I think it should be 'double or quits' - if you lose the appeal, the punishment is doubled; you win, it's all wiped.

And there should be VAR on all decisions.

Am I allowed to talk about Trundle on this thread, @phantom?

31 minutes ago, alexukhc said:

Seriously? England loo roll? I mean, you're literally wiping your...self with the flag...

9 hours ago, phantom said:

I do agree, but until he's on the pitch I'd reserve judgement 

Have a look at the Trundle thread, he explains how he would get a bonus if he played 20 games, he never got past 19. Our hierarchy clearly have previous in this 

 

 

If ever there was a more over-rated player than Trundle...

2 hours ago, Three Lions said:

George the forty foot St George being bought twenty odd years ago also is not recent and Bristol City lads with St Georges at Italia 90 thirty odd years ago aint recent either this is a long standing tradition that is still going on with our kids carrying it on.   

 

I believe the majority of England flags in '90 were still the union flag, but if you have evidence otherwise...(this is the semi, BTW)

3 hours ago, spudski said:

That's a great initiative. 

There seems to be far more all female initiatives. 

 

Until recently, awareness of women's health and providing space for women was an issue. Now it's out there, so less of an issue.

As others have said, those formerly male-dominated spaces are now more broadly accessed - a good thing. However, even in the days when they were male dominated, me didn't really talk. So spaces for men and younger males to talk are important - suicide being the biggest killer of young men, for example.

But it can't become about toxic masculinity, misogyny and exclusion - it has to be about men's health, be it mental or physical health (look at the recent uptake in prostate checks following the king's diagnosis).

Hull:

Thread of people drawing their club's badge:

3 hours ago, 2015 said:

Which is why it's not really for me. I don't want violence, but I would like a hostile atmosphere. Away team being booed and whistled from minute 1 to 90, AG to be a fortress.

The last time AG was a fortress was under Cooper, when we'd win 17 out of 23 home games. And maybe 3 away...

14 hours ago, sglosbcfc said:

I remember needing a pee at Blackpool away in the 80s and being shown to a wooden wall with a trench underneath, that is what you had to pee against. No taps or basin either. Different world now, even at the smallest League Two clubs.

 

I remember something similar at the old Wembley, in c.2000. Whenever I hear people going on about how wonderful that old ground was, I think "you must have been in the Royal Box"!

3 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said:

When has this ever happened though? 

My first City games were 94/95 against Tranmere and Derby County. Crowds of about 8,000 rattling around a more than half empty stadium. I don't recall the atmosphere being vociferous or intimidating. 

Agree to some extent, although I remember the atmosphere at 1980s Bristol derbies was pretty spicy

18 hours ago, Bris Red said:

Gone far too much the other way now though IMO, of course we all want to go to a safe and inclusive environment when we go to football but the whole match day experience at 99% of football clubs in this country has become far too sanitised.

 

By 'sanitised', do you mean 'safe and welcoming'? 'Comfortable'? 'Pleasant'?

Before you respond, I attended in the '80s, including a particularly bottom-clenching evening game at the (old) Den. Give me modern facilities every time.

13 hours ago, Three Lions said:

He doesnt know why England fans carry St Georges and thinks its recent!!! 

It IS recent. Always used to be the union flag.

Interesting analysis

https://youtu.be/mXR7cqXENq8?si=_VdgnBq3Iy2-RlO7

I was at that game! My first away match. Every time I go to IKEA or Tesco I think of it

1 hour ago, Lewisdabaron said:

 

Mainoo already done more than Gallagher 

Gallagher's main talent seems to be running around a lot

2 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

Haven’t read the thread so don’t know if discussed. Gallagher is chasing shadows at this level 

Yes, and yes

12 minutes ago, Engvall’s Splinter said:

Give us your other options?

Barkley

1 minute ago, Ivorguy said:

Surely there is someone better than Chilwell.  An awful half by him

 

Me. 55, asthmatic, right-footed.

Chilwell... FFS 

53 minutes ago, Jacki said:

This whole debate has completely baffled me and the reaction to the ‘flag’ has been as predictable as it has been depressing. In the modern, ridiculously binary world we live in, it seems so obvious to me that you’re going to get a section of society foaming at the mouth with fury about something like this. And then you’re going to get politicians wading in about how disgraceful it all is in a calculated way so they appeal to the angry audience. Maybe that’s what Nike wanted. But as others have said, there really are far, far more important things to worry about than a tiny emblem on the back of a football shirt.

I have honestly never been less bothered by anything in my entire life. 

FFS don't say "binary", you'll start that all off again!!!!

43 minutes ago, Cowshed said:

Defacing a flag is a hate crime.