Unbelievable...!

[Bris Red]

Getting a crowd atmosphere going isn't as easy as it sounds and is the product of many things including:

Recent Performances

Recent results

Crowd numbers

Crowd concentration

Apathy

Club history

etc.

Its easy joining in with a noisy crowd and easy to abstain in a quiet one. Its a bit like steering a tanker I guess, and no one person can be blamed individually. The atmosphere WAS superb for a period under GJ. No reason why it can't or won't come back.

I think it would help if we could:

Get more fans into the EE where possible.

Ban people not singing (joke), or possibly designate 'singing only' block. There's a fair few who clearly have no interest in singing, ever.

Provide greater accessibilty for POD fans.

Totally agree with all that. People really are naive when it comes to the atmopshere at AG. It is poor primarly beacause of the shite on the pitch over the last few years and nothing else.. We dont live in Turkey Russia or any of those fanatical countrys where they sing regardless, wish English crowds were like that but they arnt so we just have to get over it.

Its no coincidence that the atmosphere around AG and away from the gate (Charlton away midweek when that flare was thrown was probbaly the best away day ive been on in years) in 07/08 was immense, it was beacause we were winning and doing well. Personally unless we get on another run like that and with the way that historically the Bristol public is so fickle its going to be imo impossible to have the gate rocking week in week out.

In regards to the EE god knows what has happened with that. I think many of the orginals from the first season like me have just drifted away after how dire it has become in there over the last few years. An inicdent last season when i was told to sit down by a fan behind me made me realise that the whole EE project of a few years back has gone tits up.

[Jordan Tansley]

Bollox mate. Those who want to sing go into the EE. But they don't ******* sing. If you did, we'd here you. Same old shit comes out of it each week, and loads this season have complained how quiet it is in there.

Who are all these 1000's?...you mean a few on this forum. I'm a minority on this forum, but not at the ground. Loads of City fans laugh at the EE and how pathetic their attempts to get an atmosphere going are. They've got as much imagination as a bunch of natched up 12 year olds.

The EE hate it when they get critised, the Forza East End crew tried to get something started in there, but the 'masses' in their, couldn't be bothered to help or join in.

Anyway this thread is about Gas songs, not an overall atmosphere.

Tomorrow will be interesting, because the Pompey fans will out sing the EE, but i'm sure everyone will be singing about Penny and the Gas going down.

Constructive criticism mate...you just don't get it do you? I'm one bloke on the forum disagreeing with you, and i get a typical pack mentality negative response, because people don't like hearing criticism. Comments like 'put up or shut up'...pretty constructive huh?

What the hell are you on about?

Here's how I'm gonna look at it. You personally moan about the atmosphere and call the city of Bristol apathetic(previous threads)... yet you are exactly that. If you dont sing, dont slate those who do.

There are thousands inside the ground who sing about rovers, thats a fact. Just because you and your premier seating cronies don't like it, doesn't make it wrong. If you want it to change, start another song. If you don't want to do that, then STFU!

If people don't vote in the general elections, i don't listen to their moans about the government... You are to atmospheres what they are to Politics.

[Nogbad the Bad]

I'm not miserable mate, quiet the opposite. I just find it funny that people care so much about Rovers demise. Each to their own and all. But Like studies have shown, people who enjoy other peoples demise, and get pleasure from it, generally have low self esteem themselves.

I don't find it fun, and tbh, it shows the mindset of many fans on here, when one of the longest threads is about the demise of the Sag's, rather than concentrating on the positives of our own team. Say's it all really. And when you hear more songs at the ground, sung about the Rovers, then i'm sure it has such a positive effect on our own players!!!Not... It's like saying to them...'We're ******* bored of you lot...we're gonna sing about something totally irrelevent to what's happening on the pitch. They might as well start a Mexican wave and really rub it in our own players faces. Pathetic...

Anyway...I hope it makes you feel better, personally, i couldn't give a shit. But i hear many fans who sit around me say, 'I wish our lot would stop singing about the Sag's so much, it's ******* boring'.

I don't think anyone believes all these 'studies' you keep mentioning after all the spin and nonsense of the last decade or so. Funding will hopefully be stopped for these completely useless activities which often contradict each other, usually at the taxpayers expense.

If you really want to play Rovers you must have forgotten all the thoroughly miserable games against them - the freak late goals of the likes Smart and Hibbitt and the fact Rovers were always sent out seemingly hyped up to cripple a City player and often succeeded by taking it in turns to foul them leaving one of ours injured for weeks afterwards. It was all so predictable and very rarely enjoyable.

Many Rovers fans seem to hate City far more than they love their own club and they sing about City far more than you'll ever hear City fans chanting about them. Long may City fans rejoice at their interminable struggles.

Personally I can't stand Rovers and am always cheered up by news of them losing - the heavier the thrashing the happier I am. The dirge like sound of their foul 'club song' makes me feel physically sick.

Hopefully next season they will be heading inexorably for the Conference - I don't care if City NEVER play them again.

[054123]

<br />Bollox mate. Those who want to sing go into the EE. But they don't ******* sing. If you did, we'd here you. Same old shit comes out of it each week, and loads this season have complained how quiet it is in there.<br />Who are all these 1000's?...you mean a few on this forum. I'm a minority on this forum, but not at the ground. Loads of City fans laugh at the EE and how pathetic their attempts to get an atmosphere going are. They've got as much imagination as a bunch of natched up 12 year olds.<br />The EE hate it when they get critised, the Forza East End crew tried to get something started in there, but the 'masses' in their, couldn't be bothered to help or join in. <br /><br />Anyway this thread is about Gas songs, not an overall atmosphere.<br /><br />Tomorrow will be interesting, because the Pompey fans will out sing the EE, but i'm sure everyone will be singing about Penny and the Gas going down. <img src='http://www.otib.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/default/disapointed2se.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <br /><br />Constructive criticism mate...you just don't get it do you? I'm one bloke on the forum disagreeing with you, and i get a typical pack mentality negative response, because people don't like hearing criticism. Comments like 'put up or shut up'...pretty constructive huh?<br />

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Every Saturday i turn up and sit in my own quiet part of the ground with other like minded boring people and await a crescendo of noise, from approximately 500 people who sit at the other end of the ground penned into one corner, so that i may be entertained.

Imagine my disgust when i turn up expecting somebody else to make my day enjoyable, only to discover that the 500 odd people who try their best to have a laugh and sing a few songs, made no noise what so ever!!!! Somebody equally moribund as myself did make a comment that apparently there are 2,000 away supporters playing right up next to them and would therefor probabaly be louder. I dismissed this comment, as i had paid for a ticket and circumstances or no, i expect someone to create an atmosphere for me. In fact i'm sure i read somewhere that people sitting in that part of the ground, are actually employed for my own amusement.

Without wishing to divert from the original thrust of this post, i haven't seen the seen the man who wipes my a$$ lately, either.

Yours very disgruntled,

Spudski

[CotswoldRed]

I'm genuinely bemused by comments along the lines of

"now that I'm older I like to sit in the Williams, my days of singing are over"

Why ffs? I'd like to think that when I reach my older years I'll still want to sing my heart out.

Harry Secombe did, what's stopping everyone else?

[NOTR]

Its alright complaining about the atmosphere,but unless some can name more than a dozen or so clubs in the country with these all singing, all dancing, fantastic,noisy partisan fans,i'll take it with a large pinch of salt.There are a few clubs whose fans are great but I do not include the top teams in the prem in that,how easy is it to support a team that wins a high percentage of their games,how easy is it to sing when even before a ball is kicked you know you have some of the worlds best players in your'e line up.What we have lacked this season is a hero,a player who gets the crowd going just by being on the pitch ie Nicky Maynard,every time he gets the ball around the the box the crowd get to their feet in anticipation.

[punnett]

Growing up in Southmead,with the estate split down the middle you were either red or blue,none of this I support man ure,liverpool,chelski,arse n hole shit,it really added to the rivalry.The banter was fantastic.So growing up and living in north Bristol i've been giving and been on the receiving end of the banter my whole life.Trouble for them is I know more about thier club than they know themselves,it's far too easy to tie them in knots.OH and for those of you who keep refering to Southmead as a gash area,you couldn't be more wrong,there are plenty of reds ,as are there in Henbury,L dub,shire and believe it or not Horfield and Lockleaze.COYR

You could count the number of gas in Knowle West on one hand, 99.9% red

[Whites]

Always hated them, always will. Loving every minute of their s**t-packed season.

[everreddy]

Maybe some of the posters on here should go back and read the op again. What was being suggested was that maybe City fans' energy would help our team more, if it was directed towards supporting the team we all follow - rather than being misdirected to abusing a (to us) insignficant team from another part of the city. I'm sure that our players would appreciate that positive support: most of them aren't from Bristol, anyway, and are probabaly wondering "what's all that about?" .

Another point in the op, which seems to have been completely ignored, is that surely we should respect a genuine supporter of any local team, at whatever level, even though we may disagree with their choice of affiliation - rather than just blindly supporting whichever team happens to be at or near the top of the Premier League.

Some of the abuse revealed on here is totally unnecessary, IMO

[Mr Mosquito]

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A-ha, the REAL reason why you hate the gas is because their ancestors betrayed the City of Bristol during the English Civil War !!

Indeed, the Royalists did break into Bristol from what was the North side (Gas side) of Bristol. There is a plaque on the wall next to the Wills Tower at the top of Park Street that shows the spot where Prince Rupert and his brother - Prince Maurice - and their Royalist armies broke into the city on the 26th July 1643. The better defences were on the South side of Bristol. The South side of Bristol was successful in repelling and smashing three columns of Cornish Royalist infantry and killing their commanders.

[WellRedPhil]

Why Revel in their demise...Sing about our Team instead. Sums it up really. It is possible to sing about our club and make some noise, rather than the gas.

Yes, other Clubs do have local rivalries, but they don't sing about it at every game. It's boring as hell, and loads of other fans i know, think the same.

Some of us have moved on from singing and cheering, and just sit and watch. We handed it over to a younger generation.But loads of us have been their in the 70's and 80's, been their done that and worn the T shirt...but the EE at the moment are a ******* embarrasment to many who have been their before.

Instead of getting into a tit for tat on the forum, you young 'ens prove us us old'ens wrong tomorrow night...and try and outsing Pompey...you don't stand a chance, because all you ever sing is about the Gas and the occasional 'Come on you Reds'...

You speak as if we sing more songs about Rovers than we do about City, which is complete bollocks. Aside from "Whose that team they call the Rovers..." most of the songs that feature Rovers also feature singing about our team, such as "Hark now hear the City sing...". We by no means sing an unhealthy amount about them and in recent weeks "The Gas are going down..." has come to be sung which is to be expected considering there place in the table and how late it is in the season. We by no means obsess over them and we won't sing about them any more than United will sing about Liverpool or City or Birmingham will sing about Villa so I'm not really sure why you're trying to make out we do...

[redfred]

I don't think anyone believes all these 'studies' you keep mentioning after all the spin and nonsense of the last decade or so. Funding will hopefully be stopped for these completely useless activities which often contradict each other, usually at the taxpayers expense.

If you really want to play Rovers you must have forgotten all the thoroughly miserable games against them - the freak late goals of the likes Smart and Hibbitt and the fact Rovers were always sent out seemingly hyped up to cripple a City player and often succeeded by taking it in turns to foul them leaving one of ours injured for weeks afterwards. It was all so predictable and very rarely enjoyable.

Many Rovers fans seem to hate City far more than they love their own club and they sing about City far more than you'll ever hear City fans chanting about them. Long may City fans rejoice at their interminable struggles.

Personally I can't stand Rovers and am always cheered up by news of them losing - the heavier the thrashing the happier I am. The dirge like sound of their foul 'club song' makes me feel physically sick.

Hopefully next season they will be heading inexorably for the Conference - I don't care if City NEVER play them again.

All of the above, but especially the bit in bold, sums up why they still matter to me. In fact the memory of Peter Beadle's late goals in successive years at the Gate still make me feel sick to the pit of my stomach and angry now and it's 15 or 16 years on.

Their current situation seriously amuses me. Just my opinion like

[red panda]

All of the above, but especially the bit in bold, sums up why they still matter to me. In fact the memory of Peter Beadle's late goals in successive years at the Gate still make me feel sick to the pit of my stomach and angry now and it's 15 or 16 years on.

Their current situation seriously amuses me. Just my opinion like

Gary Smart's last minute potshot (on New Years Day I think) in a match we completely dominated was even worse. It must be around 25 years ago, but is still the low point for me.

Watching City get relegated, concede six, lose play-off finals and finish a match with 8 players were not as bad as that match.

I'm pleased that newer fans continue to hate Rovers when, nowadays, they are something of a laughing stock. Years ago they seemed to have a passion and togetherness (exemplified by Holloway and "Ragbag Rovers", the "family club" idea almost fitted) that, in any other club, you might admire. But as it was Rovers it just made us hate them more than ever. I sometimes wonder whether they made a mistake in coming back to Bristol, or drawing up plans for improving their tatty little ground. Fortunately, nay hilariously, they seem to have thrown away the very things that made them different. So much for the past - long may they rot in League Two (and below )

[CotswoldRed]

All of the above, but especially the bit in bold, sums up why they still matter to me. In fact the memory of Peter Beadle's late goals in successive years at the Gate still make me feel sick to the pit of my stomach and angry now and it's 15 or 16 years on.

Their current situation seriously amuses me. Just my opinion like

The 2-legged league cup exit against the Gas in 1991 was the lowest point ever in local derbies and it still grates me.

3-1 up from the first leg at Twerton we looked set for a memorable night. After 10 mins (if I remember correctly) we stabbed home a goal to go 4-1 up on aggregate. To lose from there on away goals was just unbeleivable. It was like a slow death and going to 6th-Form the following day was just awful.

Every Rovers fans for the next 10 years reminded me of it.

Those that were there will never forget that game I'm sure.

[BCFC_Dan]

I'm genuinely bemused by comments along the lines of

"now that I'm older I like to sit in the Williams, my days of singing are over"

Why ffs? I'd like to think that when I reach my older years I'll still want to sing my heart out.

Harry Secombe did, what's stopping everyone else?

I'm not old but I don't want to sing. I want to watch the game.

I went in the East End once and it was horrible. All you can see from the back is a narrow strip of the pitch like you're watching from inside a post box and the place is full of people who seem more interested in making noise than watching the game. That's fine for them and it's part of the game, so no problems there, but it's not for me.

[bringbacktherobin]

I'm not old but I don't want to sing. I want to watch the game.

I went in the East End once and it was horrible. All you can see from the back is a narrow strip of the pitch like you're watching from inside a post box and the place is full of people who seem more interested in making noise than watching the game. That's fine for them and it's part of the game, so no problems there, but it's not for me.

I think the view from the east end depends how tall you are, im 6ft 4 and think the view is fine. My mate who is short on the other hand doesnt.

E block dolman i think is the best, near the top. Cracking views of the pitch.

[BCFC_Dan]

I think the view from the east end depends how tall you are, im 6ft 4 and think the view is fine. My mate who is short on the other hand doesnt.

E block dolman i think is the best, near the top. Cracking views of the pitch.

I'm about as tall as Lee Johnson. Maybe that's the problem. I used to sit at the top of block D in the Dolman - perfect. Apart from the bloke behind me and his vendetta against Aaron Brown.

[bringbacktherobin]

I'm about as tall as Lee Johnson. Maybe that's the problem. I used to sit at the top of block D in the Dolman - perfect. Apart from the bloke behind me and his vendetta against Aaron Brown.

Like trying to compare chalk and cheese view wise!!

[PhilC]

• City fan's singing about the Gas
• The General atmosphere
• The EE
• I'm a better fan than you because I sing

This is just all the same S :blink: T, in a different week / month / season isn't it?

[spudski]

I'm genuinely bemused by comments along the lines of

"now that I'm older I like to sit in the Williams, my days of singing are over"

Why ffs? I'd like to think that when I reach my older years I'll still want to sing my heart out.

Harry Secombe did, what's stopping everyone else?

It's got nothing to do with age... my knees have packed in, and it's the only place in the Ground i can sit, without cramping up. Wish i could tbh

[CotswoldRed]

It's got nothing to do with age... my knees have packed in, and it's the only place in the Ground i can sit, without cramping up. Wish i could tbh

Fair enough. Can you start a song in the Williams for us tonight?

[spudski]

Fair enough. Can you start a song in the Williams for us tonight?

If i knew everyone else would join in, then yes i would. There is a rule at Manure, that you never leave one man standing, wish it could be the same at the Gate.

I remember a famous old fan who used to sit in the Williams, Can't remember his name, he used to sing at the top of his voice on his own. No one used to help him out...a true legend. Wish i had his bottle.

I prefer watching football under floodlights, for some reason there always seems a better atmosphere.

I don't know whehther it's coincidence or was planned, but when City had to win to go up in 76, they had to play Portsmouth on a Tuesday night. We won 1-0. With the spirit of 76 weekend just gone, perhaps this is a good omen for tonight

[CotswoldRed]

If i knew everyone else would join in, then yes i would. There is a rule at Manure, that you never leave one man standing, wish it could be the same at the Gate.

I remember a famous old fan who used to sit in the Williams, Can't remember his name, he used to sing at the top of his voice on his own. No one used to help him out...a true legend. Wish i had his bottle.

I think I remember that. Having been in the EE at the time, I seem to recollect hearing him when the rest of the ground was quiet!

I prefer watching football under floodlights, for some reason there always seems a better atmosphere.

I don't know whehther it's coincidence or was planned, but when City had to win to go up in 76, they had to play Portsmouth on a Tuesday night. We won 1-0. With the spirit of 76 weekend just gone, perhaps this is a good omen for tonight

[redfred]

Gary Smart's last minute potshot (on New Years Day I think) in a match we completely dominated was even worse. It must be around 25 years ago, but is still the low point for me.

Watching City get relegated, concede six, lose play-off finals and finish a match with 8 players were not as bad as that match.

I'm pleased that newer fans continue to hate Rovers when, nowadays, they are something of a laughing stock. Years ago they seemed to have a passion and togetherness (exemplified by Holloway and "Ragbag Rovers", the "family club" idea almost fitted) that, in any other club, you might admire. But as it was Rovers it just made us hate them more than ever. I sometimes wonder whether they made a mistake in coming back to Bristol, or drawing up plans for improving their tatty little ground. Fortunately, nay hilariously, they seem to have thrown away the very things that made them different. So much for the past - long may they rot in League Two (and below )

They manifested a 'them and us' attitude and portrayed themselves as this tin pot little outfit with no money just about scraping through - which was largely true. As a result their fans embraced this sob story and would tell anyone that would listen that they were the most loyal fans in the world for following such a shambles of a club, all the while perpetuating the myth that City fans thought we were following a ''massive club'' and that we thought we should be winning the league and cup every year because we thought we were a ''massive club''. I heard it all the time of the ***** and they thrived on it for years.

It is quite clear that since they moved back 'home' to Bristol that they have lost that galvanising effect of squatting in Bath and being the unlucky minnow and they are now essentially the same as the rest of us. One thing they have retained, though, is that bitter jealousy of all things Bristol City. Some things never change. With all that's gone before, I still cannot get my head round anyone not seeing them as a rival. They are and they always will be. Simple as.

[redfred]

The 2-legged league cup exit against the Gas in 1991 was the lowest point ever in local derbies and it still grates me.

3-1 up from the first leg at Twerton we looked set for a memorable night. After 10 mins (if I remember correctly) we stabbed home a goal to go 4-1 up on aggregate. To lose from there on away goals was just unbeleivable. It was like a slow death and going to 6th-Form the following day was just awful.

Every Rovers fans for the next 10 years reminded me of it.

Those that were there will never forget that game I'm sure.

I went to both legs and after the first leg, where Brian Parkin's howler for Wayne Allison (might have been Nicky Morgan) to score and put the tie virtually out of sight, so we thought, the return leg at AG was a mere formality. I remember them singing ''3-1 down, 4-2 up, we knocked City out the Cup'' when they were leaving the Open End and the anger I felt at the time has never left me. Couple that result with the 1990 3-0 promotion decider, the 4-0 at Twerton in '94 - when Welch had a 'mare - and Beadle's two goals in '95 and his equaliser in '96 made the 90's a complete disaster against them and that has what has formed my hate towards them. And yes, I do hate them.

Let them rot in hell, the sanctimonious *****s