glynriley Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 8 game ban...ouch!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16186556.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 World class player, World class cheat. 8 games is not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 World class player, World class cheat. 8 games isn't not enough. and a racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbacktherobin Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 If the FA have proved he has said something, why are the police not involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 If the FA have proved he has said something, why are the police not involved? That is weird as the police are involved in the John Terry one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 If the FA have proved he has said something, why are the police not involved? The word concerned is 'negrito' Spanish I believe, my understanding is said to white guy it's a term of endearment, said to a black guy is definitely racist and Suarez would definitely have known that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Same haircolour as far as I can see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin101 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Same haircolour as far as I can see what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 what +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Do not criticize others if you have weaknesses yourself. http://en.wiktionary...7t_throw_stones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Same haircolour as far as I can see Grimm's fairytales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercury Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 From what I understand also, it's Evra's word against Suarez, in this instance the FA have chosen to believe Evra's account of what happened. I'm sure that if Blatter had not made his comments a few weeks ago, leading to the FA accusing him of being a racist, and the FA now feeling they have to take the moral hgih ground, the ban would have been less. In the John Terry incident, there is video evidence that alledges he used racist comments toward Anton Ferdinand, surely this means thta John Terry will receive the same sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 From what I understand also, it's Evra's word against Suarez, in this instance the FA have chosen to believe Evra's account of what happened. I'm sure that if Blatter had not made his comments a few weeks ago, leading to the FA accusing him of being a racist, and the FA now feeling they have to take the moral hgih ground, the ban would have been less. In the John Terry incident, there is video evidence that alledges he used racist comments toward Anton Ferdinand, surely this means thta John Terry will receive the same sentence. Suarez admitted using the word 'negrito' and tried to claim it was a term of endearment. That was his defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITW Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Suarez is a brilliant player. Shame he's a prize knob to go with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Suarez is up there with Van Persie, Aguero & Rooney as the best strikers in this country. If he wasn't such a cheat he'd be liked even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 oh yes and not forgetting his Uruguayan mate Poyet also publicly said that Suarez called Evra negrito, so actually 3 witnesses, nice try Liverpool sympathisers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 and a racist. "I don't think Luis Suarez is a racist" - Patrice Evra Hopefully we'll be seeing Evra banned after he admitted in his statement to insulting Suarez in the most objectionable of terms in Spanish. John Terry will of course be banned for life too if this is the precedent when there is no evidence. Luis Suarez also has a black grandfather. Perhaps not relevant but I think it is important to note when you accuse him of being a racist. Best player in the Premier league, Which becomes even less attractive to watch as a result of the FA bowing to 'sir' Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 "I don't think Luis Suarez is a racist" - Patrice Evra Hopefully we'll be seeing Evra banned after he admitted in his statement to insulting Suarez in the most objectionable of terms in Spanish. John Terry will of course be banned for life too if this is the precedent when there is no evidence. Luis Suarez also has a black grandfather. Perhaps not relevant but I think it is important to note when you accuse him of being a racist. Best player in the Premier league, Which becomes even less attractive to watch as a result of the FA bowing to 'sir' Alex. Bottom line he knew what he was saying and that makes it worse, I haven't seen anything about the Evra insult maybe you can lead me to a link?. Don't bother I read the Liverpool propaganda machine remarks on sky sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Bottom line he knew what he was saying and that makes it worse, I haven't seen anything about the Evra insult maybe you can lead me to a link?. Don't bother I read the Liverpool propaganda machine remarks on sky sports. Propaganda? It's in his statement to the FA judging panel. Are you claiming Patrice Evra lied? I happen to agree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boadle Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I think this case is a bit less 'black and white' than some of the posters on here assume. From what I've read, the word has subtly different meanings in Latin American countries, and the context can change it from being a negative to a positive term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Propaganda? It's in his statement to the FA judging panel. Are you claiming Patrice Evra lied? I happen to agree... So Liverpool say, have you actually read it? and not forgetting that having been told by the FA to keep their own council after Suarez was charged, they started their public defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 So Liverpool say, have you actually read it? and not forgetting that having been told by the FA to keep their own council after Suarez was charged, they started their public defence. I hardly think that is the sort of thing a club of the stature of Liverpool would lie about considering the emotive nature of this argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 So much for "kick it out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I hardly think that is the sort of thing a club of the stature of Liverpool would lie about considering the emotive nature of this argument. Right so it's not a fact then ok. By the way do you Evra is lying because Suarez is such an honest little chap?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Racism, Lets kick it out (for 8 games) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the1stknowle Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 The word concerned is 'negrito' Spanish I believe, my understanding is said to white guy it's a term of endearment, said to a black guy is definitely racist and Suarez would definitely have known that. Nah. Forget the literal translation (little black man). It's like saying "wee man". Perfectly fine although possible to use as a pejorative - like if you aggressively said "wee man" to a midget you were about to get into a fight with. Main problem is that he's in England and they were speaking English. It's like if a word like "mate" had a racist connotation in Spanish. Would you then criticize an english man playing in La Liga for saying "Tranquilo, mate" if that meant "Calm down, n*****". You can make both arguments. But, as a Latin American Spanish speaker, to be totally clear negrito said to a black person is absolutely not "definitely racist" - that doesnt make it smart to say it to a black person in England and he should have been in England long enough to know that. This is assuming that the reports are true and it was "negro" or "negrito" that he said. From what I read, Suarez disputes he said it as much as Evra says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Right so it's not a fact then ok. By the way do you Evra is lying because Suarez is such an honest little chap?. So, by that then neither is your opinion? Glad we've got that figured out... I think Evra is lying because he is a detestable vile bastard who has previous for crying race and made it up back then. I also think that given Evra said to the referee "You're only booking me because I'm black" Evra had decided he was going to be racially abused by someone during that game. I suppose you're on about the supposed diving? A player brought up in a culture where all contact that doesn't result in the winning of the ball is punishable with a foul comes to England to face the likes of Christopher Samba... Doesn't take a genius to work out what's going to happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Lincs Red Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 When does his ban start? I've got the little **** in my dream team ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 When does his ban start? I've got the little **** in my dream team ! I would hold on, he'll get 5 games taken away as a suspended punishment on appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercury Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Right so it's not a fact then ok. By the way do you Evra is lying because Suarez is such an honest little chap?. now let me think, Evra: French, plays for Man Utd, honest as the day is long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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