Super Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Did you really type all that?! Fair play buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Dazza has summed things up very well. What came across very clear for me was that Del was much more spiky than last years q & a. He was still very honest though : - Bikeys wage demands were from cloud cuckoo land. - Cisse was on way too much money and was rightly offered a contract more in line with his ability and availability. - The players he has spent money on are good investments for this club. - Other incoming players who some might consider "not an improvement on what we had" are at least providing healthy competition for the first team at a fraction of the cost as your Stewarts, Hunts, JCRs etc. - We have midfielders more suited to playing 3 in the middle and we need to protect the defense. All very honest opinions from Del. There was a lot of reference to scouting and recruitment and I am glad the club have finally realised that we have been in the dark ages in this regard and are making improvements. One thing though - it's sad to see so many opinions on here but so few people actually turn up, and even fewer bother to actually ask anything. People do love a moan on here and yet when given the opportunity to vent your spleen directly none of you can be bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 I thought Del did well. He was a bit spikey early doors and not exactly bubbly, but if he had been he would have wound everyone up. I thought the most interesting point of the evening was when Keith Dawe spoke at the end. We are clearly in the eye of the storm at the moment as a club. But I am reassured by the belief that we aren't run by bluffers. From talking to Jon Lansdown and Amy from the Community Trust I got a real sense that we are finally waking up to the potential that we have around us and what we need to do to make the most of it. Personally, it is clear to me that no matter how s**** we are at the moment, we should keep Del boy. There are a lot of things happening behind the scenes that go back to him and we really could do without changing our backroom staff again for both financial and organisational reasons. The constant managerial changes have become the problem. Over the medium to long term he will do a good job and I have a sense that the club is starting to wake up to its importance in the community and how efforts to fulfill our role can benefit us. We have always been called a sleeping giant and that is for good reason. The club has historically had a lack of awareness but appears to be waking up to itself and how it can play a role in the city and the region as a whole and how that will benefit us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 How can Stewart's payout be on the figures if there till end of may and he left August that's not right. Academy was restructured in summer so those figures wouldn't be on there again, seems very odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Dazza has summed things up very well. What came across very clear for me was that Del was much more spiky than last years q & a. He was still very honest though : - Bikeys wage demands were from cloud cuckoo land. - Cisse was on way too much money and was rightly offered a contract more in line with his ability and availability. - The players he has spent money on are good investments for this club. - Other incoming players who some might consider "not an improvement on what we had" are at least providing healthy competition for the first team at a fraction of the cost as your Stewarts, Hunts, JCRs etc. - We have midfielders more suited to playing 3 in the middle and we need to protect the defense. All very honest opinions from Del. There was a lot of reference to scouting and recruitment and I am glad the club have finally realised that we have been in the dark ages in this regard and are making improvements. One thing though - it's sad to see so many opinions on here but so few people actually turn up, and even fewer bother to actually ask anything. People do love a moan on here and yet when given the opportunity to vent your spleen directly none of you can be bothered. Just saw you on TV mate. Like you say, I was a bit surprised how few turned up. I think last night will see the end of any "Del out" threads........well for a few days anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingswood red Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Excellent post Dazza. Bristol Boy posts on Ziderheads as Trusted One, still as passionate with good write ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 How can Stewart's payout be on the figures if there till end of may and he left August that's not right. Academy was restructured in summer so those figures wouldn't be on there again, seems very odd. The money was probably set aside from last years budget, i.e. prior to May, as the costs would have bs known. With FFP penalties coming in I would think that they'll need all the creative accounting they can get Cheers for those who went and summarised. It reaffirms my feelings that we need to stick with Del; this situation we're in is in part down to a lack of stability and The club seems to be going through a top-down change at the minute, which we'll hopefully reap the benefits of in the near future. Just make sure tomorrow is an improvement on last weekend! COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunningdalered Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 How can Stewart's payout be on the figures if there till end of may and he left August that's not right. Academy was restructured in summer so those figures wouldn't be on there again, seems very odd. Normal accounting practice is to make provision for any expected costs after the end of the year (within reason) - so, in this case, if costs of getting rid were anticipated at the end of May they would have been included in the figures to that point (even if the actual cash was paid out in Aug). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Nice one, thanks for the summary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunningdalered Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 +1 Much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Nice one Dazza, the first sensible post I've read from start to finish on here in ages! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Cheers for the summary Dazza, top work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaiser Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Looked like a man under pressure. No smiles or cracking jokes like last years Q&A. If he didn't look like a man under pressure and he came in smiling and cracking jokes, then I for one would have been quite angry about it. His demeanour is exactly how it should be when you consider our predicament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted December 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 If he didn't look like a man under pressure and he came in smiling and cracking jokes, then I for one would have been quite angry about it. His demeanour is exactly how it should be when you consider our predicament. Fair enough. I suppose if you look at all the top managers in the Prem, they often get spikey when their methods are questioned. Del clearly has a strong belief in himself and what he wants to achieve. Good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 The only reassuring thing at the moment is that Del does seem to talk a lot of sense. Chopping and changing has cost us too much in the past and we need to stick with a plan and see it through no matter what happens in the short term. The squad really isn't that poor but it lacks confidence and motivation. I really hope McInnes can fix that because it's been a problem for a long time now. Thanks to all who provided reports. It's very much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Thanks dazza , appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodbarmyarmy Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 One thing though - it's sad to see so many opinions on here but so few people actually turn up, and even fewer bother to actually ask anything. People do love a moan on here and yet when given the opportunity to vent your spleen directly none of you can be bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 good read thanks dazza, Hopefully that will of calmed alot of people down, We can see what he's trying to do the first team need to wake up now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Personally, it is clear to me that no matter how s**** we are at the moment, we should keep Del boy. This comes across very much in the feedback, excellent effort by all who reported back. I think he's going through hell managing a reduced wage bill, a squad in need of rebuilding, a feeble academy/community set up and all this with the background of AV. Fair play to the man, let's help him to get things turned round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 This comes across very much in the feedback, excellent effort by all who reported back. I think he's going through hell managing a reduced wage bill, a squad in need of rebuilding, a feeble academy/community set up and all this with the background of AV. Fair play to the man, let's help him to get things turned round It doesn't matter how silver tongued McInnes is, lets not forget where City are in the table and that football is a results based business. Any further shambolic performances like one last Saturday and fans will turn against him just as many did after the Wolves game. One smooth talking AGM won't be enough to save him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksred Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 no hiding from the mess there. he had best get those defenders in in the january window though, or the pressure will be on, and the debt reduction is bound to have an impact on the players we can get now n all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Much appreciated Daz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 This comes across very much in the feedback, excellent effort by all who reported back. I think he's going through hell managing a reduced wage bill, a squad in need of rebuilding, a feeble academy/community set up and all this with the background of AV. Fair play to the man, let's help him to get things turned round What did Churchill say? 'If you're going through hell keep going' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 It doesn't matter how silver tongued McInnes is, lets not forget where City are in the table and that football is a results based business. Any further shambolic performances like one last Saturday and fans will turn against him just as many did after the Wolves game. One smooth talking AGM won't be enough to save him. Were you there? It wasn't smooth talking. It was gruff, at times a bit tetchy, but beneath all of that it was very determined. Exactly what I would hope to see given the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemmyredjeff Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 If Anderson cant impress enough in training to replace most of the shower currently on show, then all i can say is he must be utter shite. And a return to 442 can only be expected with the return of Skuse then "god help us". The future is Skuse, ha ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_Lemon Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Skuse would suit better to Rovers than us. Thats his level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Nobody can deny its evident this club means a lot to Derek now and he is burning with desire to get things right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Nobody can deny its evident this club means a lot to Derek now and he is burning with desire to get things right. or possibly it's his reputation at stake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintees! Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Both of the above...and why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 It doesn't matter how silver tongued McInnes is, lets not forget where City are in the table and that football is a results based business. Any further shambolic performances like one last Saturday and fans will turn against him just as many did after the Wolves game. One smooth talking AGM won't be enough to save him. Ah RR still like a bit of fishing I see, I`ll bite anyway; DM IS GOING NOWHERE WE CANNOT AFFORD A MASS CLEAR OUT AGAIN. In case you missed the latest accounts and recent news from our club. There will still be some "further shambolic performances" but also some great ones though, just as it always has been at this club. Did you enjoy your holiday on the planet zog, welcome back to the real world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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