The Kaiser Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Now now lads, bitching again. Lets see what the future holds and hopefully a manager that comes in to keep our championship staus I don't think anyone wants different on here. Those who do are knobheads from a L2 club in as much sh*t as we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUEBRIT66 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I don't see anyone else rushing forward to own this club. Lansdown has said on many occasions he is happy to hand over to someone else who wants to come in for the right reasons etc. Has anyone ever come forward? We dont even know whos going to win the pie contract next year let alone if a multi billionaire has come in with a offer so based on that I would say NOT SURE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Hill Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 You must have some gripe with them Nick, personally, think the lad come out and said everything what 98% wanted to hear. What exactly is the proble mate? If I remember rightly Nick had a bit of a run in with SL a few years back. I can't remember the circumstances but I think the gist of it was that they had a meeting at which SL effectively told him to p*ss off. I have it on good authority that our Chairman can be pretty abrasive (can help when you're trying to become a billionaire) but as a result Nick has a long-standing grievance which emerges quite frequently. I suggest we all ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Seeing as you don't know me that is a pretty dumb thing to say (there again who am I to take that away from you) - all that amassed glory since late 1970s when I started first watching the club with my dad, wow that'd be enough for a few nights of celebration at best I would think. Umm, I didn't call you a gloryhunter. I said that you conveniently forget that most of our debt was accumulated post-Wembley so you could be one of the Johnny-come-lately's. But, then again, I'm the dumb one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garlicbread Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 He is at Bristol City. My point (poorly made coz the the vino) is that the amount he has invested (lost) is actually a drop in the ocean to him...probably relatively less in comparison to the supporter who follows the club week in week out on season tickets / away games etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUEBRIT66 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 If I remember rightly Nick had a bit of a run in with SL a few years back. I can't remember the circumstances but I think the gist of it was that they had a meeting at which SL effectively told him to p*ss off. I have it on good authority that our Chairman can be pretty abrasive (can help when you're trying to become a billionaire) but as a result Nick has a long-standing grievance which emerges quite frequently. I suggest we all ignore it. Suggestion taken on board and duly ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garlicbread Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 If I remember rightly Nick had a bit of a run in with SL a few years back. I can't remember the circumstances but I think the gist of it was that they had a meeting at which SL effectively told him to p*ss off. I have it on good authority that our Chairman can be pretty abrasive (can help when you're trying to become a billionaire) but as a result Nick has a long-standing grievance which emerges quite frequently. I suggest we all ignore it. I do hope you arent referring to Keith Dawe? I dont know anybody why has seem him be abrasive. ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaiser Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 My point (poorly made coz the the vino) is that the amount he has invested (lost) is actually a drop in the ocean to him...probably relatively less in comparison to the supporter who follows the club week in week out on season tickets / away games etc etc I don't disagree with you on the relative point in fact. For me to come home games, I travel back and forth from SW London, pay the ticket, service station stops etc etc you know all that bollux. It's cheaper away for me half the time. I do it, because I love it but it's far from cheap and I'd say yeah, my % of income is about the same to Lansdowns. BUT, the world don't work on relative. My contribution for me personally is high - as I am sure yours is as well for the same reasons as me - but we need his money more than yours and mine. His money buys players and stadiums - ours dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakes Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I find it hard to believe anybody can question Steve L as he is bank rolling the club at present. There has been some terrible appointments as manager since Johnson, pls make sure the next one is someone who is proven at this level! Colin would be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garlicbread Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I don't disagree with you on the relative point in fact. For me to come home games, I travel back and forth from SW London, pay the ticket, service station stops etc etc you know all that bollux. It's cheaper away for me half the time. I do it, because I love it but it's far from cheap and I'd say yeah, my % of income is about the same to Lansdowns. BUT, the world don't work on relative. My contribution for me personally is high - as I am sure yours is as well for the same reasons as me - but we need his money more than yours and mine. His money buys players and stadiums - ours dont. Totally agree we need his money Kaiser (and the more he puts in, the more we need him)....but it dont mean he's any good at running a football club does it? I'm grateful for his money, but he has made some poor decisions. Because of his investment oif millions (which is personally is no bigger than yours), doesnt mean he is without blame for this absolute mess....and it is a huge mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I find it hard to believe anybody can question Steve L as he is bank rolling the club at present. There has been some terrible appointments as manager since Johnson, pls make sure the next one is someone who is proven at this level! Colin would be nice Bank rolling. Like a bank. It's called debt. I wouldn't fall over myself to thank my mortgage provider. They can ask to be repaid. They are not my best mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 If I remember rightly Nick had a bit of a run in with SL a few years back. I can't remember the circumstances but I think the gist of it was that they had a meeting at which SL effectively told him to p*ss off. I have it on good authority that our Chairman can be pretty abrasive (can help when you're trying to become a billionaire) but as a result Nick has a long-standing grievance which emerges quite frequently. I suggest we all ignore it. You're an idiot. Had a meeting, dont agree with his views, still don't. Steve didn't tell me to piss off. He wasn't abrasive. I have no long standing grievance, just a desire for Bristol City to be as successful as it can run as a proper club in the community. If you want me to be ignored, why didn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Hill Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I do hope you arent referring to Keith Dawe? I dont know anybody why has seem him be abrasive. ever You're absolutely right and I apologise unreservedly to Mr Dawe for any offence. I was of course referring to the club's major shareholder and former Chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 You're absolutely right and I apologise unreservedly to Mr Dawe for any offence. I was of course referring to the club's major shareholder and former Chairman. I was offended as well if you'd like to apologise unresrevedly, or is that just for rich people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I was offended as well if you'd like to apologise unresrevedly, or is that just for rich people? Behave. His initial statement was qualified with "if". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaiser Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Totally agree we need his money Kaiser (and the more he puts in, the more we need him)....but it dont mean he's any good at running a football club does it? I'm grateful for his money, but he has made some poor decisions. Because of his investment oif millions (which is personally is no bigger than yours), doesnt mean he is without blame for this absolute mess....and it is a huge mess He's not without blame. If any of my posts suggests I think he is blameless, I'll correct that now. I think he delayed too long before removing Johnson. I think Millen was the wrong appointment. I think Coppell was the wrong appointment and I think McInnes was. Now hindsight is a lovely thing but I'd say of those 4 decisions, at the time I agreed with just the appointment of Coppell. I thought all those things at the time. I wanted others but I also here have to give the benefit. I always think of Graeme Taylor's comment here - "I've got 30 million England managers picking teams same time as I do. Everyone has a view, but you know what? The problem I have is that mine is the only one that plays". I think Lansdown made poor choices on those 4 and I (and others) would have done different, but who knows if we were right? He is not blameless but we need him. To suggest we are better off with him leaving - as some have done - is madness in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Hill Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 You're an idiot. Had a meeting, dont agree with his views, still don't. Steve didn't tell me to piss off. He wasn't abrasive. I have no long standing grievance, just a desire for Bristol City to be as successful as it can run as a proper club in the community. If you want me to be ignored, why didn't you? I'm sorry you feel the need to be offensive. I was simply trying to help Arn's understanding of your differences with our former Chairman and his family. You've managed to put the record quite straight I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Behave. His initial statement was qualified with "if". As in, "If I remember correctly". Which he didn't. Therefore, as you correctly allude to, he wasn't correct. Idiot whicever way you look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NATCHER Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 hopefully a manager that comes in to keep our championship staus 15 months ago we had one of them...... What price loyalty, but maybe I'm in the 2 %. .......Football's shit....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 15 months ago we had one of them...... What price loyalty, but maybe I'm in the 2 %. .......Football's shit....... If the board believed in Millen when they appointed him they should never have sacked him. Good example they don't know what they're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaiser Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Millen was the cheap option. Nobdy will ever convince me of it being anything else. I remember the day he was appointed, everyone (including me) wished him well but didn't think it was the right choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NATCHER Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Why let McInnes spend £x on Kelly then sack him two days later? Arn, can you explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Millen was the cheap option. Nobdy will ever convince me of it being anything else. I remember the day he was appointed, everyone (including me) wished him well but didn't think it was the right choice. (Laughs Out Loud). And so Lansdown being the right man for the job is why, exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaiser Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 (Laughs Out Loud). And so Lansdown being the right man for the job is why, exactly? Because everybody makes mistakes and he puts in millions and millions of pounds in. If he isn't the man for the job, are you able to take his place and put in the same? If so, then let us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del ete Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 You're an idiot. Had a meeting, dont agree with his views, still don't. Steve didn't tell me to piss off. He wasn't abrasive. I have no long standing grievance, just a desire for Bristol City to be as successful as it can run as a proper club in the community. If you want me to be ignored, why didn't you? No need for personal insults is there, everyone is aware of your anti lansdown opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordofthebling Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 No, you aint got a clue. Muppet. Why is every thread turning into this? I probably agree with you, but Arn has taken the time in writing his opinion, someone has disagreed with it; its now a debate. not a slagging match. So if you disagree with it - outline why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 15 months ago we had one of them......What price loyalty, but maybe I'm in the 2 %........Football's shit....... If he had been successful, he would have buggered off up the food chain anyway. That is the price of success. No loyalty on either side nowadays. If there was he would still be at saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 15 months ago we had one of them......What price loyalty, but maybe I'm in the 2 %........Football's shit....... If he had been successful, he would have buggered off up the food chain anyway. That is the price of success. No loyalty on either side nowadays. If there was he would still be at saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Because everybody makes mistakes and he puts in millions and millions of pounds in. If he isn't the man for the job, are you able to take his place and put in the same? If so, then let us know. So right man for the job because he makes lots of mistakes? Trust me, I make lots of mistakes. Millions and millions of pounds has equated to what exactly? Last time I looked, a club that we don't own, bottom of the league. The right man for the job would be who the fans voted to be so. Sadly, we will never know who that will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NATCHER Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Cynic I hear what you say re-'transfer policy', but if a new manager doesn't rate/play Kelly, then that's £x to add to our ever growing debt. Half way through the transfer window is not the right time to hang a manager. For me, it doesn't add up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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