Tins Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I wouldn't make guesses like this. I guarantee someone will drag this back up when they go out in the group stages Haha! Hope not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Yes Heynckes won his first major honour, but he done it in style. Bayern will be champions of Europe for 3-5 years easily now. You do not know that. Mourinho has lost 78 games in 632 with a win percentage of 67.8% In ten seasons of club management, including an eight-month sabbatical in 2007–08, Mourinho has led his club to win its domestic league seven times, the UEFA Champions League twice and the UEFA Cup once. Since 2002, Mourinho has not gone a full calendar year without winning at least one trophy Also when you go 150 home games unbeaten you know you're special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Haha! Hope not! Bookmarked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Guardiola has done it with 1 club that was already geared for success. Heynckes won his first major honour in over 10 years this season.. So Porto Chelsea Inter and RM were not already geared up when JM took over!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 You do not know that. Mourinho has lost 78 games in 632 with a win percentage of 67.8% In ten seasons of club management, including an eight-month sabbatical in 2007–08, Mourinho has led his club to win its domestic league seven times, the UEFA Champions League twice and the UEFA Cup once. Since 2002, Mourinho has not gone a full calendar year without winning at least one trophy Also when you go 150 home games unbeaten you know you're special. Of course I don't know, I'm not psychic! Bookmarked Bugger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 So Porto Chelsea Inter and RM were not already geared up when JM took over!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Porto were never geared up to win the champions league. Chelsea hadn't won the title in 50 years Inter hadn't won the Champions league in 48 years or something stupid and they've never done a treble. Real Madrid had been 2nd best to Barcelona for a fair few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Porto were never geared up to win the champions league. Chelsea hadn't won the title in 50 years Inter hadn't won the Champions league in 48 years or something stupid and they've never done a treble. Real Madrid had been 2nd best to Barcelona for a fair few years £100 million was spent by Ranieri, if that's not geared up I don't know what is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 £100 million was spent by Ranieri, if that's not geared up I don't know what is! Spend all you want, you've still got to overcome Manchester United and Arsenal who were a top team at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Will give you Porto But Chelsea had already spent Millions get the squad ready Inter are a huge club who were not a million miles away when he took over Failed at Madrid ( they wanted the CL) being the biggest club in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Spend all you want, you've still got to overcome Manchester United and Arsenal who were a top team at the time. Mancini is as good as Mourinho then? Won the Prem with Man City, cracking job at Inter too....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Will give you Porto But Chelsea had already spent Millions get the squad ready Inter are a huge club who were not a million miles away when he took over Failed at Madrid ( they wanted the CL) being the biggest club in the world Still went and done the job, won the league in style with Chelsea. Treble with Inter was magnificent and he broke the Barca dominance for one season reaching 100 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Mancini is as good as Mourinho then? Won the Prem with Man City, cracking job at Inter too....... Has he won 2 champions leagues? He hasn't won any. He hasn't won any near as many major trophies. Mancini as good as Mourinho is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tansley Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 His goalscoring needs to improve but all the other parts of his game are good. He played well in both legs versus Madrid. I think he'll become a very decent player when he's improved his finishing. Brilliant target man, his play with his back to goal is excellent. Hernandez is unbelievable too. I'd love him at Liverpool. If he played week in week out he'd romp to the Golden Boot IMO. Touch of Owen about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Brilliant target man, his play with his back to goal is excellent. Hernandez is unbelievable too. I'd love him at Liverpool. If he played week in week out he'd romp to the Golden Boot IMO. Touch of Owen about him. I agree Jord, Welbeck has a good all round game but is just a bit rash in his finishing. Hernandez is a proper poacher and they would be mad to sell him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Has he won 2 champions leagues? He hasn't won any. He hasn't won any near as many major trophies. Mancini as good as Mourinho is a joke. He won the Prem, won 3 Seria A titles in a row (Inter club record), 5 Coppa Italia finals in a row etc etc. Won Coppa Italia at Florentina and Lazio with no money. Mourinho couldn't win anything with no money. I don't think Mancini is better than Mourinho, but just stating facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 He won the Prem, won 3 Seria A titles in a row (Inter club record), 5 Coppa Italia finals in a row etc etc. Won Coppa Italia at Florentina and Lazio with no money. Mourinho couldn't win anything with no money. I don't think Mancini is better than Mourinho, but just stating facts. No manager could with trophies without financial backing. Ferguson has spent a bomb, Guardiola spent a fair bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I agree Jord, Welbeck has a good all round game but is just a bit rash in his finishing. Hernandez is a proper poacher and they would be mad to sell him. End of the day he is a forward His job is to score goals Getting just one for the champions is shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 No manager could with trophies without financial backing. Ferguson has spent a bomb, Guardiola spent a fair bit. See swansea!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 See swansea!!! I think jordan said trophies not trophy. If Swansea carry on winning cups, fair dos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 No manager could with trophies without financial backing. Ferguson has spent a bomb, Guardiola spent a fair bit. Mancini did with Florentina and Lazio......... Martinez did it at Wigan etc Stupid post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Mancini did with Florentina and Lazio......... Martinez did it at Wigan etc Stupid post. Coppa Italia? Since when was that a major trophy. Winning FA Cups and Coppa Italia's do not make a manager one of the best. Think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 No manager could with trophies without financial backing. Ferguson has spent a bomb, Guardiola spent a fair bit. Guardiola spent a pittance compared to the others. The majority of his squad came through the youth ranks, who were coached by himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Say what you want about Mourinho and Mancini and Guardiola etc.. The facts say it all. Fergie aside, Mourinho in the modern game has won more major trophies than anyone else. End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Coppa Italia? Since when was that a major trophy. Winning FA Cups and Coppa Italia's do not make a manager one of the best. Think about it. Sorry but I disagree. They are still major trophies. So Mourinho only one 2 trophies at Chelsea then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Guardiola spent a pittance compared to the others. The majority of his squad came through the youth ranks, who were coached by himself. Lets see Daniel Alves - 25M Seydou Keita - 18M Martin Caceras - 15M Gerard Pique - 8M Alexander Hleb - 13M Henrique - 6M Ibrahimovic - 46M Chygrynskiy - 18M Adriano - 13M David Villa - 32M Mascherano - 16M Alexis Sanches - 26M Fabregas - 34M He spent money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Sorry but I disagree. They are still major trophies. So Mourinho only one 2 trophies at Chelsea then? Are you seriously saying Mancini is better than Mourinho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Are you seriously saying Mancini is better than Mourinho? No. All I am saying, it FA Cup, Coppa Italia etc are major trophies. Mourinho is a fantastic manager yes, but cannot work without a lot of ££££ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Lets see Daniel Alves - 25M Seydou Keita - 18M Martin Caceras - 15M Gerard Pique - 8M Alexander Hleb - 13M Henrique - 6M Ibrahimovic - 46M Chygrynskiy - 18M Adriano - 13M David Villa - 32M Mascherano - 16M Alexis Sanches - 26M Fabregas - 34M He spent money.That is a shit load. Barca always splash out on one or two big purchases. Its the way they have always done it. They have always been massive spenders quality over quantity. Trouble is many failed as they could not play the barca way. :laugh: about 70 million a season. Portland, I think brizzle check mated you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Coppa Italia? Since when was that a major trophy. Winning FA Cups and Coppa Italia's do not make a manager one of the best. Think about it. If the coppa ilalia is worthless why bring up the point JM won the TREBLE with inter!! Its only worth being the Double is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Jordan Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 No. All I am saying, it FA Cup, Coppa Italia etc are major trophies. Mourinho is a fantastic manager yes, but cannot work without a lot of ££££ Mourinho spent less than Guardiola during both of there years in Spain. Mourinho didn't spend alot at Inter at all, they didn't have much resources. Quaresma, Muntari, Mancini and Sneijder were his only real expensive players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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