kevinmabbuttshair Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 I'll give you another, far closer to home. When we won at Leeds in 74, we were bottom but one and AD's neck was on the block. What happened next? What division was that in? Did AD get us relegated before we got promoted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 Playing devils advocate here: Should we stick with SOD, and we dont stop the rot effectively, then relegation beckons, into the bottom tier, with lower gates, NO TV money, no travelling support, half of L2 are living on the edge of bankruptcy, the other half are ambitious well run ex Conference sides, for which City (along with the likes of Pompey, Bradford, Swindle are cup games with our (deminished) support. Doubtless these pox ridden players will bail out. SOD then has to get MORE replacement players in, and another rebuilding season, which could go the same way as this cluster****. How far/long do we accept him staying? hmmmmm? For the record getting any other suck...sorry replacement mnager in here will prove a nightmare what with this one shaping up to be our fourth season struggling with relegation. and during this time we have had 6 ****** managers, every single one of which has contributed to this ****** awful mess.... Well this for me is where we need someone like a Neil Warnock. I always disliked the bloke, but damn, I think our best chance to get moving up the league is with someone like him. All this possession football philosophy bullshit is all very well is you have the guy in charge thats competent to do it,to bring in players that are capable of it. But alas, SOD is increasingly showing that he is not that man. I really dont give a ### how we play. Win is a win. With SOD, this hasnt happened since March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityCiderEd Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 Nearly all the fans I know just want a win and couldn't give a toss about how we get it.I for one would happily accept a 10 game winning run consisting of boring 1-0 wins.If you want entertainment go to the circus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Butterfield Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 Look guys face it he needs more time, he will get there In sod we trust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmabbuttshair Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 A decade enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderup Posted October 19, 2013 Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 Look guys face it he needs more time, he will get there In sod we trust You speak for yourself not all of us. Bugger off SOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 I think he should go and then the Board go and talk to Swansea on how to select a good manager.They lose a good one and sign one as good or better (Martinez,Rogers , Laudrup).Our Board lurch from one disaster to another. To be fair, what Swansea have done so well this past 5 odd years is appoint managers who carry on the work of their predecessors, and our board have managed to accomplish exactly the same.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kachina Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 To those discussing we won't sack SOD for compensation reason's, I thought he signed a year to year rolling contract whilst would suggest the first year is nearly over and surely the contract is unlikely to be extended unless results improve, therefore compensation would not be high. I'm not sure if sacking him is the right thing to do, as I'm not sure someone new will do any better, if we are to sack him it would have to be for Ian Holloway, Neil Warnock or Gary Johnson in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Ian Holloway, Neil Warnock or Gary Johnson in my eyes. You mean Ian Holloway who is currently managing a Premiership team and Gary Johnson, ex city boss and currently in charge of a championship team? Whats it like up there on planet crazy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 To those discussing we won't sack SOD for compensation reason's, I thought he signed a year to year rolling contract whilst would suggest the first year is nearly over and surely the contract is unlikely to be extended unless results improve, therefore compensation would not be high. I'm not sure if sacking him is the right thing to do, as I'm not sure someone new will do any better, if we are to sack him it would have to be for Ian Holloway, Neil Warnock or Gary Johnson in my eyes. His year to year rolling contract means he's always in contract for a further 365 days, so tomorrow he will have the same amount of days left on his contract as he does today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davros Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 People you do realise its ffp bending this club over and shagging it harder than a porn star on crack. Basically until out youth setup is right and we have the right players filtering through. The manager makes no difference, were screwed at the moment because were in a rut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 People you do realise its ffp bending this club over and shagging it harder than a porn star on crack. Basically until out youth setup is right and we have the right players filtering through. The manager makes no difference, were screwed at the moment because were in a rut. Swindon, P`boro, Coventry, and other clubs have sold players but brought in a bit more wisely than us, we are screwed cause we cant win a game because our selected players and manager aren't good enough too, albeit whatever word you want to use, transition, pillars,ffp to cover that fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robiness Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Get rid now,it can't get any worse ,He's even got the players playing the same way as he speaks SLOW&DYER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Well this for me is where we need someone like a Neil Warnock. I always disliked the bloke, but damn, I think our best chance to get moving up the league is with someone like him. Would he come here though? When he left Palace, who were struggling at the time, NW stated "I don't have the stomach for a relegation battle any more". Go to the league managers website http://www.leaguemanagers.com/ and at lower left click on the list of Managers looking for work Kenny Dalgleish, Ray Wilkins, Martin O'Neil, Nigel Clough and 94 others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stogursey red Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 after the goal went in there was a loud chant of SOD out, first time i have herd this at an away game, must be a bit of a worry for him as fans who go away usually do all they can to give support even when things are going not well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 I'll give you another, far closer to home. When we won at Leeds in 74, we were bottom but one and AD's neck was on the block. What happened next? Why do people keep comparing O'Driscoll to Dicks? It's really not going to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nause Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 You mean Ian Holloway who is currently managing a Premier League team and Gary Johnson, ex city boss and currently in charge of a championship team? Whats it like up there on planet crazy? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hortonred Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Chopping and changing isn't the answer, I hate to say this but financial stability is more important than football at the moment. If landsdown walked and left the debt, and I wouldn't blame him given the grief he gets on here, we would be in dire straights, 1982 and all that. We have a juggling act of priorities and in no particular order 1. Get the finances in order and ensure the club survives 2. Offload expensive players when contracts expire [pearson, Fontaine, kilkenny], I wonder how much they all cost and how many minutes they will play this season? 3. Continue to develop the academy 4. Win some football matches I understand all those shouting for sods head but it seems more dislike for the guy and no real answers to who would replace and what any replacement would do with limited funding and the inevitable team rebuilding exercise which would lead to further player and back room changes.... There is no quick fix Your argument is the one that has crippled us in recent years by keeping poor quality managers for too long just to keep this mythical benefit of stability. Quite frankly it is insane.SOD is not good enough and has proved himself not capable of putting a team on the pitch that can win a game.He should be sacked.What use is stability with a manager not fit for purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 People you do realise its ffp bending this club over and shagging it harder than a porn star on crack. Basically until out youth setup is right and we have the right players filtering through. The manager makes no difference, were screwed at the moment because were in a rut. Every other club in this league is having to adhere to FFP, but plenty of them seem to be getting on OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Every other club in this league is having to adhere to FFP, but plenty of them seem to be getting on OK. Indeed, and having some of the biggest gates we should be in a far better place. Yes we pay too much, yes we have players still here that SOD doesn't want. But lets not forget, they are championship standard (apparently). So if we cannot get a team out that can get the odd win here or there, would seem a little odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forbespm Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 am i right in thinking that since o'dismal took over in january we have neverwon a league game away from home!would love to see his statistics since taking over.lose on tuesday night and he'll be gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Every other club in this league is having to adhere to FFP, but plenty of them seem to be getting on OK. WHICH IS TRUE, however how many had to get going off of the back of millions to overpaid players and a complete rebuild from the bottom up! The fact is we were told at the begining we were likely to struggle for a while, however back in July early August we were all getting excited about all the young players we were snapping up and the thought that we could play Reid and Bryan among others from our accademy! Well its not started the way any of us hoped but at least the only way is up from here!! :laugh:! The message is clear and simple, stick together (we cant keep giving stupid goals away in the last minute) and the tide will turn...Two wins off of mid table, so we are not adrift yet and anybody thinking SoD will get the boot before Xmas is barking up the wrong tree! Keep the faith! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 am i right in thinking that since o'dismal took over in january we have never won a league game away from home! would love to see his statistics since taking over. lose on tuesday night and he'll be gone! That's correct, we haven't won away since December. His league record since joining is as follows P31, W5, D10, L16, F35, A51, PTS 24. Win Ratio 16% If you ignore last season, as of course many say we should, it reads P11, W0, D6, L5, F15, A22, PTS 6. Win Ratio 0% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSH17 Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/sean-odriscoll/aufeinenblick/trainer_4147.html Is it true that his contract ends at the end of December? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 I like the plan to build something long term, but if the plan is being created by an architect who's got it wrong, surely a new architect needs to be brought in? If we do sack SOD does anyone think the monkeys in the board room will get it right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/sean-odriscoll/aufeinenblick/trainer_4147.html Is it true that his contract ends at the end of December? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 If we do sack SOD does anyone think the monkeys in the board room will get it right? Nope. Who is going to want to come? What is attractive about the club at the moment? To the untrained eye we appear to be a club in free fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 That's correct, we haven't won away since December. His league record since joining is as follows P31, W5, D10, L16, F35, A51, PTS 24. Win Ratio 16% If you ignore last season, as of course many say we should, it reads P11, W0, D6, L5, F15, A22, PTS 6. Win Ratio 0% It's only a matter of time before people start pointing to his record last season as a reason to keep him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc1982 Posted October 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Sod record as a manager 1 league win in 46 .1 win in 26 for Doncaster.0 win in 20 for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted October 20, 2013 Report Share Posted October 20, 2013 Funny how certain posters input to the thread is reduced to petty sniping, when there is a good chance that they are starting to doubt sods ability to do the job. I know certain people won't admit it because they have invested a lot of time defending what has happened this season. Well said mate! You can't defend the indefensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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