ashton_fan Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 This has just come out, the FA are looking for ways to accommodate 'B' teams for Premiership clubs, it could either be good or bad news for the blues depending on the outcome: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27289819 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 This cannot happen for the sake of the history of the Football League and the history of the conference and non-league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 no no no no no and no again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM91 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 absolutely hideous idea. If this is done for the sake of the national team then I for one shall stop watching the already intensely dull international football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Bristol Red Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 the first game at UWE Bristol Rovers Vs Bristol City B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Utter rubbish again ! Why can't they stop trying to squeeze every last drop of life blood out of our national sport ? There already exists a league for this and players can always go out on loan to benefit smaller clubs . The only good point is that the gap would be even wider between us and the Gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 This would be disastrous. Premiership reserve teams playing at that level would hinder the promotion prospects of non league teams into League 2. I haven't any interest in Rovers but there are a lot of well run non league teams who deserve to have the realistic opportunity of progressing up the league pyramid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 no no no no no and no again So if i read this correctly you're against the idea Monkeh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Agree with everyone here, what a horrible idea. Commission just trying to copy the Spanish idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityFarAndWide Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Would that mean our "B" Team could relegate them further? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Them with their noses in the trough won't be happy until the top four clubs in the premiership have it all. They continue to squeeze the smaller clubs out of existance. Football is the dream that one day it could be our turn for glory .Kill that and you kill the sport . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 This would be disastrous. Premier League reserve teams playing at that level would hinder the promotion prospects of non league teams into League 2. I haven't any interest in Rovers but there are a lot of well run non league teams who deserve to have the realistic opportunity of progressing up the league pyramid. The way it works in other countries is that the 'B' teams cannot be promoted and the promotion spots would filter down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red10 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 The way it works in other countries is that the 'B' teams cannot be promoted and the promotion spots would filter down They can't be promoted to the same division as their first team but they can rise through the pyramid, Barca B are 3rd in the second division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manon Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Horrific. So the elite would be allowed to trample all over the lower echelons just because english talent is not getting through? The likes of cheltenham, Bury, and even the Gas should be treated with exactly the same respect as the top clubs of this country. One has no more right than the other. How about dealing with the core issue here by sticking a proper cap on foreign players per team, so that the domestic talent is naturally allowed to progress... Oh I forgot, that would mean the EPL losing it's perceived attractiveness and it's global no 1 status. In short, it all boils down to money at the top (again), with little thought for everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted May 6, 2014 Admin Share Posted May 6, 2014 Would expect it to take years to get voted into place But the problem is this does happen in leagues around Europe already - as our friends in Tillburg will know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Most of the top teams have young foreign players in there reserve teams anyway. This wouldn't solve anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcityman Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Horrific. So the elite would be allowed to trample all over the lower echelons just because english talent is not getting through? The likes of cheltenham, Bury, and even the Gas should be treated with exactly the same respect as the top clubs of this country. One has no more right than the other. How about dealing with the core issue here by sticking a proper cap on foreign players per team, so that the domestic talent is naturally allowed to progress... Oh I forgot, that would mean the EPL losing it's perceived attractiveness and it's global no 1 status. In short, it all boils down to money at the top (again), with little thought for everyone else. You have it spot on. This is nothing to do with improving England prospect, more to do with pandering to the big 5/6 clubs and it's shareholders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Bristol R*vers could become the Bristol City "B" team simples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Awful idea. It doesn't matter that this happens in other countries, those other countries don't have over 100 different professional football clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityFarAndWide Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Which one of you posted this : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Rather than do this, why not pump more money into the Reserve/U21 leagues and make them into a summer tournament a.la the WSL. Generate television interest, more exposure for younger players etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Night84 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 It wouldn't reserve teams though, the clubs would have to have two distinct squads which they wouldn't be able to transfer players between outside of transfer windows. That being said, I think it's a massive smack in the face for L1 and L2 clubs thinking they'd want to play 'B' teams where ever they were from. Where will there home grounds be? Sure as hell not the Etihad and Emirates. My idea would be to remove Premier League And Championship from the League Cup and let their B teams play in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semblar Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 They can't be promoted to the same division as their first team but they can rise through the pyramid, Barca B are 3rd in the second division. I know with Barca it's not a realistic prospect - but what would happen if the A team got relegated? Would the B team get relegated too, even if they were topping the division? This certainly sounds like something which would cause far more harm than good for "lower" teams... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Believesham Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 I know with Barca it's not a realistic prospect - but what would happen if the A team got relegated? Would the B team get relegated too, even if they were topping the division? This certainly sounds like something which would cause far more harm than good for "lower" teams... I believe so - also I think the B team could potentially replace the A team if they got promoted when the A team got relegated. I don't think promotion places are filtered down, if they are, they shouldn't be! There are hundreds of issues around the legality of registering players and how FFP would affect 'B' teams (why should a middle sized team with a B team get financial bonuses of ticket sales for league games in League 2) Ridiculous FA thinking out loud and publishing everything they can to cuddle up to the premier league What happened to feeder clubs (I am not a fan*)? or even spread players across the level at which they are performing - wages are the big problem, kids with promise that aren't on resonable money for the level they can perform at. Until this gets balanced out, premiership clubs should get used to paying most of a player's wages while he is out on loan. Not pricing clubs at the heart of communities in some cases out of the game. * - I reckon you should only be allowed to loan 2 players from one club at once anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WessexPest Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Total dog of an idea. While it's tempting to want to see another tier shoved between Rovers and us, we need to consider the far bigger picture here. I've never bought into this idea of the Premiership being "The Greatest League in the World" (trademark Sky) and even if it is the paucity of English players means it leaves me cold anyway. Where English football truly is peerless, though, is in the strength of the Pyramid from top to bottom. You can go five, six divisions down depending on the game and still get a proper football experience and good crowds & atmosphere. Then there's the FA Cup, which still manages to produce its fair share of shock results season in, season out, despite the yawning chasm between the Premiership moneybags and the rest. I went to Melksham Town v Devizes Town one Good Friday in the 1990s (I couldn't even tell you how many leagues there are between them and the FL) and there were a good 300 people in attendance. This is being missold to the fans as a way of bolstering the fortunes of the England team. Now, anything that benefits the England team is OK by me WITHIN REASON, but even if this was guaranteed to make us competitive and not utterly painful to watch I would be bitterly opposed to it. Anyway, I fail to see how it is going to benefit the England team. The way you do that is by giving more young English talent the opportunity to play at the highest level. No, this is all about pandering to the whims of the big clubs. It will be disastrous if it happens - I can see it being a slippery slope to bringing an end to relegation and the FA Cup - a wonderful tournament that has already been treated like absolute dogsmuck by the powers that be and the top clubs - will be completely neutered. Watch this suggestion re-open the possibility of the Glasgow clubs joining the English league too. What happened to the Combination League? Bring back the reserves there if necessary. Besides, the Premiership big guns have such massive squads now and play so many games that they have ample opportunity to give the young'uns a run-out - for example, a lot of clubs field reserve sides in League Cup ties. If you want a radical notion, how about scrapping the qualifying rounds of the FA Cup and having all teams, from Manchester City to the smallest team in the pyramid, enter at the same time. The grassroots clubs would get a crack at the big boys, and the greedy sods at the top could finally give something back to the grassroots. This proposal is beyond cretinous. The Premier League almost killed English football at the grassroots level. I hope we're not about to let Dyke et al finish the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 The bigger Premier League teams already stockpile players. This will make it far worse. What a terrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloggie Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Have this in the Netherlands now......Ajax, PSV and Twente have their second teams in the Dutch "2nd Division".....like Spain they cannot be promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloggie Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 and the Dutch haven't done too bad in International/European football over the last 30 years given the population is less than Greater London..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 I see they've consulted 300 people but seem to have missed out on consulting those who really matter, the fans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Have this in the Netherlands now......Ajax, PSV and Twente have their second teams in the Dutch "2nd Division".....like Spain they cannot be promoted. Can they be relegated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloggie Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 at the moment there is no relegation out of the second Tier in the Netherlands although this will likely change in season 2015/2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Weren't Watford an Italian club's second team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 In Germany the reserves of the Bundesliga teams play in regional leagues and are allowed to compete in their FA Cup. Arrangements are made so a club does not meet it's reserves in a cup game, but sometimes a reserve team (thanks to an easy draw) progresses further than the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WessexPest Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 In Germany the reserves of the Bundesliga teams play in regional leagues and are allowed to compete in their FA Cup. Arrangements are made so a club does not meet it's reserves in a cup game, but sometimes a reserve team (thanks to an easy draw) progresses further than the first team. One of my concerns is that if this crackpot plan sees the light of day something similar will happen in the FA Cup. One of its strengths is the draw isn't seeded. It would have to be contrived. The sooner this idea is binned the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Total dog of an idea. While it's tempting to want to see another tier shoved between Rovers and us, we need to consider the far bigger picture here. I've never bought into this idea of the Premier League being "The Greatest League in the World" (trademark Sky) and even if it is the paucity of English players means it leaves me cold anyway. Where English football truly is peerless, though, is in the strength of the Pyramid from top to bottom. You can go five, six divisions down depending on the game and still get a proper football experience and good crowds & atmosphere. Then there's the FA Cup, which still manages to produce its fair share of shock results season in, season out, despite the yawning chasm between the Premier League moneybags and the rest. I went to Melksham Town v Devizes Town one Good Friday in the 1990s (I couldn't even tell you how many leagues there are between them and the FL) and there were a good 300 people in attendance. This is being missold to the fans as a way of bolstering the fortunes of the England team. Now, anything that benefits the England team is OK by me WITHIN REASON, but even if this was guaranteed to make us competitive and not utterly painful to watch I would be bitterly opposed to it. Anyway, I fail to see how it is going to benefit the England team. The way you do that is by giving more young English talent the opportunity to play at the highest level. No, this is all about pandering to the whims of the big clubs. It will be disastrous if it happens - I can see it being a slippery slope to bringing an end to relegation and the FA Cup - a wonderful tournament that has already been treated like absolute dogsmuck by the powers that be and the top clubs - will be completely neutered. Watch this suggestion re-open the possibility of the Glasgow clubs joining the English league too. What happened to the Combination League? Bring back the reserves there if necessary. Besides, the Premier League big guns have such massive squads now and play so many games that they have ample opportunity to give the young'uns a run-out - for example, a lot of clubs field reserve sides in League Cup ties. If you want a radical notion, how about scrapping the qualifying rounds of the FA Cup and having all teams, from Manchester City to the smallest team in the pyramid, enter at the same time. The grassroots clubs would get a crack at the big boys, and the greedy sods at the top could finally give something back to the grassroots. This proposal is beyond cretinous. The Premier League almost killed English football at the grassroots level. I hope we're not about to let Dyke et al finish the job. English football is indeed peerless in terms of its strength in depth. The top five tiers of English football would wipe the floor with any other country's top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Horrific. So the elite would be allowed to trample all over the lower echelons just because english talent is not getting through? The likes of cheltenham, Bury, and even the Gas should be treated with exactly the same respect as the top clubs of this country. One has no more right than the other. How about dealing with the core issue here by sticking a proper cap on foreign players per team, so that the domestic talent is naturally allowed to progress... Oh I forgot, that would mean the EPL losing it's perceived attractiveness and it's global no 1 status. In short, it all boils down to money at the top (again), with little thought for everyone else. Quality post mate. Absolutely bang on. When I first fell in love with football the thought of finishing in fourth place was certainly not considered a success but as you say.....money. More important than anything in the game now. Sadly it won't ever change and those at the top will try and find all sorts of loop holes to keep the premiership as a global brand. Chelsea are a fine example of everything that is wrong in the modern game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Which one of you posted this : A Sheff Utd fan? Apart from that spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappers Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 I thought the Premier League was meant to be of benefit to the England team..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 A disastrous proposal that will be incredibly bad for football and only benefit the Big Six in the Premiership. It will happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 I thought the Premier League was meant to be of benefit to the England team..... Yup that's how it was sold to the public, in reality it only benefited Rupert Murdoch, players, agents and a handful of big clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Just announced on SSN, no B team would be allowed to rise above League 1. That's because Championship teams would have their B team in that league as well as the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Wilde Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Which one of you posted this : The user name hints it was Mr O'Toole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KwoodCiderNut87 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 I think the only way it could work is if it had its own league, seperate from our current pyramid structure. How successful it would be will always depend on how much tv/media coverage it has, and how much money it would be worth to teams. Imagine if it were to take the place of the conference, it would probably get more air time and tv money than league 1 and 2! also it would need seriously strict rules on how many players must be English, like 90% of the squad or something, or it would never help the national side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 So as I understand it the structure change would be this: A) Premier League ?? Championship ?? League One ?? ?? League Two South League Two North ?? Conference Premier ?? ?? Conference South Conference North Divide league 2 into north and south divisions equally then add 12 "B" teams into each division. OR B) Premier League ?? Championship ?? League One ?? League Two ?? League Three (Initial B League) ?? Conference Premier ?? ?? Conference South Conference North Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KwoodCiderNut87 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 So as I understand it the structure change would be this:A)Premier League ?? Championship ?? League One ?? ?? League Two South League Two North ?? Conference Premier ?? ?? Conference South Conference North Divide league 2 into north and south divisions equally then add 12 "B" teams into each division. ORB)Premier League ?? Championship ?? League One ?? League Two ?? League Three (Initial B League) ?? Conference Premier ?? ?? Conference South Conference North I prefer the 2nd one, sags get relegated further then hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Lewis Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Premier League ?? Championship ?? League One ?? League Two ?? League Three (Initial B League for prem) ?? League Four (Initial B League for championship) ?? Conference Premier ?? ?? Conference South Conference North Wouldn't it look like this? Whatever it looks like it would kill the game IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Lewis Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 How long before it's this Premier League ?? Championship League One ( B League for prem) ?? League Two ( B League for championship) Conference Premier ?? ?? Conference South Conference North Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 I thought the Premier League was meant to be of benefit to the England team..... This. The formation of the premier league was always and only about money and I will never believe a word any of football's big wigs spout when it comes to changes mooted that are anything to do with the premier league or premier league clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 For you younger Members of this forum... Until the late 1980's there were there were 22 teams in Divisions 1 and 2 with 24 in divisions 3 and 4. At the League's AGM clubs in the top two divisions had one vote each whilst those in the lower two had just four votes between them. All league gate receipts were split three ways; the home team kept the majority, some went to the visitors and the third lot went into a league kitty. At the end of the season that kitty was divided into 92 equal parts, one for each club. The clubs in the lower two divisions then demanded equal votes and the clubs in the upper twoagreed in principle, but wanted league status to be reflected. As a result clubs in Div 4 got one vote each, Div 3 - 3 votes each, Div 2 - 6 votes each whilst those in Div 1 had 12 votes each. Do the sums; the 22 clubs in Div 1 if acting unanimously, could out vote the other 70 teams in the League. At the same time it was decided from then on each team would keep 100% of it's gate receipts. Then ITV won exclusive rights to show league football and concentrated on just six clubs then in Div 1. They obviously considered themselves superior to the rest and a few years later the clubs then in Div 1 broke away to form their Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Most of the top teams have young foreign players in there reserve teams anyway. This wouldn't solve anything. I tend to agree up to a point. I believe the intentions of the FA are not, as many seem to be ranting one of 'pigs in a trough'; likely they have the best intentions of the national game at heart having seen ALL other major nations and Holland and Belgium surpass the consistency of standard we seem to dish up. I salute them for at the very least trying to find a solution and looking at the models overseas which do, in fact, adopt this type of system. That said you are right Bill that it would have less of an impact here, at least in theory, because our game is more international in its make up than any other. So what to do? Ditch the idea completely? No, I believe something could be done that does benefit the national game significantly enough that a relative level of downside could offset. What that is remains open to debate and conjecture. I suppose a parallel league apparatus could be set up that does not affect the lower league clubs could it not? Something we already have, or did have, in the Football Combination.. can this not be somehow made more competitive and beneficial to the national game? One final point here is that to offset the undoubted plethora of foreign youngsters in the B teams of the best clubs and to not unduly benefit their own nations we could limit the number of them in a given squad or first 11 to just 3 players. No doubt Platini would say that is illegal due to EU rules... another reason to ditch membership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 This. The formation of the premier league was always and only about money and I will never believe a word any of football's big wigs spout when it comes to changes mooted that are anything to do with the premier league or premier league clubs. P.S. Just read on teletext that the club finishing bottom of the prem this season will receive more money than did last season's champions, Man U! Good thing it was never about money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cheesey Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Looks like the FA are about to set up 'League 3' for B teams, effectively dropping Rovers down another level of English football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 This is a death knell for lower league English football. Bristol City Vs Liverpool B. Umm no thanks. I do like the idea of partnerships though (A prem club can loan a lower league side 8 players). It seems less invasive than changing the structure and adding b teams. I'm hoping common sense will prevail, as frankly **** the England team and the FA, who are the beneficiaries of this proposed change to the league format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Awful awful idea! I seriously hope The Football League opposes this strongly and puts up a fight! If not I hope lower league clubs go against it and form a breakaway if it happens. Thanks Dick, I mean Dyke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stortfordred Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 This just in from the BBC: 'The creation of a new tier within the Football League to accommodate Premier League B teams is at the heart of the Football Association commission's four-point plan to boost English football.' I am sure this is worthy of serious debate: haven't we got enough teams already? It will mean that the prem teams suck up even more of the young talent. On a less serious note, will Rovers become the Cheltenham B team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komazawa Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 You mean the prospect of playing Burnley's u21 team, in front of zero away fans, isn't making your mouth water??? Awful idea!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 When it says no non-EU players what does that mean for the likes of Marv and El-Abd? Born in England but play for countries outside the EU, I honestly don't know anything about it, when you play for a different country do you need to do something like get a passport for that country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Further confirmation that English football is run by and for the big boys (not that it's much different in other countries). I hate to say it and maybe I'll feel differently if/when it happens, but I'd seriously consider walking away from football if this is implemented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Can't see it happening. I'd imagine the majority of the 72 FL clubs would vote against it. Not even sure how it would work. If it's only for B teams of premier clubs, what happens when a team is relegated from the prem? Is their B team removed from 'League 3' and replaced with a team going up? It works abroad because they have fewer clubs, don't see it working here at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 When it says no non-EU players what does that mean for the likes of Marv and El-Abd? Born in England but play for countries outside the EU, I honestly don't know anything about it, when you play for a different country do you need to do something like get a passport for that country? it wouldn't affect them, as they are still British citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted May 8, 2014 Admin Share Posted May 8, 2014 As much as I initially dislike the idea, we have to remember this is going to hit the Conference Premier the hardest, and those leagues below that. The season that this comes into play, the 10 B teams will join the league, along with the two that dropped out of the league along with the 8 highest placed teams from the conference. To be honest splitting the leagues like this has happened a few times recently, no more so than when the Conferenece North and South were created. I can remember Weston winning their league, the following year finishing in the top half and boom, two promotions in two seasons. If the games are played at the home grounds of the Prem sides, the conference teams will have a great time playing at the likes of Old Trafford / Emirates / Etihad etc. The hardest part and I've not seen this written anywhere yet is what happens to the 14 lowest placed sides in the conference ? It will mean pushing teams down the leagues and essentially undoing what I referred to above. I actually see the not letting the younger players go out on loan to league clubs as a good thing - if a team brings in a number of fringe players it could be deemed an unfair advantage? One thing it will do is create massive squads for those 10 Prem sides who will have the B team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 As much as I initially dislike the idea, we have to remember this is going to hit the Conference Premier the hardest, and those leagues below that. The season that this comes into play, the 10 B teams will join the league, along with the two that dropped out of the league along with the 8 highest placed teams from the conference. To be honest splitting the leagues like this has happened a few times recently, no more so than when the Conferenece North and South were created. I can remember Weston winning their league, the following year finishing in the top half and boom, two promotions in two seasons. If the games are played at the home grounds of the Prem sides, the conference teams will have a great time playing at the likes of Old Trafford / Emirates / Etihad etc. The hardest part and I've not seen this written anywhere yet is what happens to the 14 lowest placed sides in the conference ? It will mean pushing teams down the leagues and essentially undoing what I referred to above. I actually see the not letting the younger players go out on loan to league clubs as a good thing - if a team brings in a number of fringe players it could be deemed an unfair advantage? One thing it will do is create massive squads for those 10 Prem sides who will have the B team And let's not forget that they already stockpile players that they've little or no intention of playing. I'm convinced that some teams buy players just so that other clubs can't have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted May 8, 2014 Admin Share Posted May 8, 2014 For anyone interested here is the full report http://www.thefa.com/~/media/files/pdf/england/the-fa-chairmans-england-commission-report.ashx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted May 8, 2014 Admin Share Posted May 8, 2014 Bristol City Vs Liverpool B. Umm no thanks. Would only happen if we are in the conference or just relegated from the basement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Would only happen if we are in the conference or just relegated from the basement These B teams can earn promotion though, can't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 When it says no non-EU players what does that mean for the likes of Marv and El-Abd? Born in England but play for countries outside the EU, I honestly don't know anything about it, when you play for a different country do you need to do something like get a passport for that country? They would both count as home-grown, as they were born here and their football education was all done here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I hate this idea, really hate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 The Peterborough chairman has been on Twitter already voicing his objection to the proposals. I suspect his view is shared by most, if not all, of the rest of the FL Clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 These B teams can earn promotion though, can't they? Yes, but not to the championship. So does that mean that we could have a team finishing 12th in league 1 getting promoted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I would imagine all clubs from League 1 and below are against this, its a terrible idea! Its humiliating for all the clubs playing against a Southampton B for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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