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Cowshed Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 Ok, my bad then. For two weeks. Your argument for better community engagement isn't one I'd content, but putting a target on this particular preseason trip, regardless where it is, seems odd to me that's all. By all means, let us lobby for more community work, but of the belief there is a significant connection between the issues, or that it is bell weather for that aspect as a whole seems misguided. There is opportunity at home first. For two weeks the players and community trust are in a foreign land. The players and community trust have failed to get together at kids coaching sessions e.g Keynsham for entire terms even for a hour. This trip is different to others e.g Latvia in effort and its context. I would like to some of the same intensity of this mere "two weeks" focused on the community here even if it is just a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 There is opportunity at home first. For two weeks the players and community trust are in a foreign land. The players and community trust have failed to get together at kids coaching sessions e.g Keynsham for entire terms even for a hour.This trip is different to others e.g Latvia in effort and its context. I would like to some of the same intensity of this mere "two weeks" focused on the community here even if it is just a few days. Why though? Because there is some effort being made to contribute there by the community trust? So what? Doesn't mean they won't do stuff when they get back. If anything, something involving outreach in the 'context' you've mentioned should be a positive, showing the extent to which it can be taken, and perhaps encouraging further, closer-to-home action. Doesn't taint the organisation just because they've gone to Africa. And what is this obsession with players showing their faces at events? Community outreach isn't just some 'celeb' photo shoot opportunity; it's about City as a club showing its willingness to engage with the local community. We're looking to build connections that will, ideally, last longer than most players careers with us, so some of the squad taking time to wander over and shake some hands is great, and not a BAD thing, but hardly a barometer for the level and intensity of engagement. You clearly have a problem with this trip; that's cool, you're entitled to. But, personally, think there is little wrong with it, and a lot of good likely to come from it in the long and short terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixtyseconds Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 And what is this obsession with players showing their faces at events? Pity players couldn't make it over to the park again last weekend for one of Bristols biggest kids tournaments. You might think Jumbo Jet is a human hamburger but to the little ones he is their star. It makes a real difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 Its a good thing that. You might think Jumbo Jet is a human hamburger but to the little ones he is their star. It makes a real diiference. Fair enough. Was good of the first team to spend so much time with fans post-Portishead, but I guess I see the badge and the shirt as more long term symbols of loyalty, and what we want the youngsters keen on being associated with than the players, many of whom move every 12/24 months. But, like I said, fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray White Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N0UaahibGJ8 Has anyone got any idea what his response is to the first question because I've got no idea what he says... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squire Dastardly Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 I understand your sentiment. And yes it is great to help others in their community and broaden the City name. However...the only reason we are going to Botswana, is to open doors further for financial benefit. Hargreaves Lansdown and connections with Bostswana Diamonds Plc and further companies their, can only help further build their empire. Visiting dignitaries from the Botswana Embassy to AG and making ' business connections' are the main reason we are going to Botswana. It's a very wealthy growing country and any businessman worth his salt is their. There are just as many poor people in Bristol and surrounding areas as in Botswana. Even the 40 to 50 year olds their, are predicted to have a bigger financial pension than in the UK. It's not a 'poor' country when compared to other African Countries. Yes it's great for the team to gel and get away and work hard...for the Community trust to do some 'charity work'...but that could all be done in any other part of the world. There is no hiding the fact, that the only reason we are in Botswana, is to 'open doors' financially and Hargreaves Lansdowns connections their....and if that means the Club going their and the Trust doing some ''charity' work...then so be it...but lets not make out it's for other reasons. May I add... I'm not against Charity work abroad... I've done it myself in Sri Lanka and India. All imho of course... It may well be an honest opinion but to me , it sounds like total fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 Big meet at 2pm in the Botswana Tavern. About 5 min walk from the train station. How many fans have made he journey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N0UaahibGJ8 Has anyone got any idea what his response is to the first question because I've got no idea what he says...I've just been thinking that myself. I've watched it about 20 times but I've no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray White Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 I've just been thinking that myself. I've watched it about 20 times but I've no idea. I'm starting to think he says basketballer...any other guesses?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 I'm starting to think he says basketballer...any other guesses??I'm probably agreeing now I've listened with headphones for that extra bit of clarity. Not sure if that's a joke though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 15, 2014 Admin Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 Definitely starts as bask, but edited too quickly... But surely too short to play basketball? Maybe a basket maker lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 How many fans have made he journey? around 4k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 16, 2014 Admin Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 around 4k. I wonder if anyone has actually gone as a supporter, other than those who were raising the money to join the community team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 80 people in total I believe out of which 35 are players. Would be interesting to know how many fans (although participating in community work) that has made the journey. Surely someone on OTIB is out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TETBURY MASSIVE Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 I'm starting to think he says basketballer...any other guesses?? This is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Pity players couldn't make it over to the park again last weekend for one of Bristols biggest kids tournaments. You might think Jumbo Jet is a human hamburger but to the little ones he is their star. It makes a real difference. There is opportunity at home first. Apparently Scott Murray, Louis Carey (ok, an ex-employee) and a City scout were present at the Ashton Park kids tournament. So, not quite the "non-representation" you've made out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 16, 2014 Admin Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Apparently Scott Murray, Louis Carey (ok, an ex-employee) and a City scout were present at the Ashton Park kids tournament. So, not quite the "non-representation" you've made out... Scott Murray was on the plane to Botswana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Scott Murray was on the plane to Botswana Not on Friday night he wasn't, he was at Ashton Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 16, 2014 Admin Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Not on Friday night he wasn't, he was at Ashton Park. I stand corrected, but really the kit man, a former player and a scout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 What so you expected the squad members to have attended less than 24 hours before a flight to Botswana?? I'm pretty certain if the Ashton Park Tournament was prior to or post Botswana trip, there would have been plenty of representation from City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 16, 2014 Admin Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 What so you expected the squad members to have attended less than 24 hours before a flight to Botswana?? I'm pretty certain if the Ashton Park Tournament was prior to or post Botswana trip, there would have been plenty of representation from City If you read back the person who raised the issue was referring along those lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Apparently Scott Murray, Louis Carey (ok, an ex-employee) and a City scout were present at the Ashton Park kids tournament. So, not quite the "non-representation" you've made out... I hope a City scout was there as one of Whitchurches coaches was, or is and they were playing! Spotted faces from other clubs as well. Maybe I was involved on both saturday and sunday. I heard Scott was sighted briefly at some point on friday, but maybe there was no real obvious representation am - pm. Last year? I was there again and made similar comments regarding kids tournaments and Community engagement. Ashton Boys may not want BCFC openly around, others may have the same view but my experience is City are not as evident around grass roots football as I first thought they would be and there is opportunity to improve. The park itself is an opportunity for months to run coaching sessions, meeting the "stars", and of course sell merchandise. The Community Trust were at Yate, new female coach joined recently from a former job with the FA. Well done City. The sobering thing is there were kids wearing "Fire and Passion" tracksuits from Cardiff's development cente on view saturday and sunday, and this included kids from South Bristol. City have their work cut out even in BS3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITYAREREDANDWHITE Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 I like the way that we are relying on our selves, meaning that a major shake up across the sporting industry will not majorly affect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tts_city Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Scott Murray runs a under 9's football coaching session at Clevedon football club on wednesdays, "Murrays Minis" , thats grass roots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnclosureSurge Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 On Wednesday there will be morning training as normal, plus some gym work, before the whole squad travels a short distance for a game drive (safari).Adam Baker Seems like they've arrived for game drive time! http://thenatchwall.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Definitely starts as bask, but edited too quickly... But surely too short to play basketball? Maybe a basket maker Not just basket makers but makers of all wicker receptacles . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Are they driving the game or shooting it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 On Wednesday there will be morning training as normal, plus some gym work, before the whole squad travels a short distance for a game drive (safari).Ah well, Safari so goody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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