PHILINFRANCE Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 The problem with Rule Britania is most people sing the wrong words. They're close, but the mistake completely changes the meaning. Some people even spell it incorrectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Yes, GSTQ is Britain's National Anthem, but it was written when Bonnie Prince Charlie was leading a Scottish army towards London to replace King Georg with himself. Verse six (hardly ever sung these days) makes it your duty as an Englishman to do in the nearest Scot. We still use it though as the anthem of the UK, not just England.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/1571287/God-Save-the-Queen-lyrics.html 6. Lord grant that Marshal Wade May by thy mighty aid Victory bring May he sedition hush And like a torrent rush Rebellious Scots to crush God save the King Interesting, I do not recall that verse. Perhaps, if the 6th verse were to be introduced, this would be adopted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Net Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I vow to thee my country and Jerusalem are 2 of three hymns for my wedding next week. Jerusalem was one of the hymns at my wedding - I'm now divorced! Best wishes for a fab day + happy future with Mrs Dicksy. Do they still sing hymns in school? If so, at least the players should know the words to Jerusalem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I'm a staunch Royalist, but I agree that GSTQ, is dull and tedious. England should have it's own National Anthem (and parliament, for that matter), just as the other home nations do. Jerusalem is certainly rousing, and would be a good choice. That said, do we really want to "Build Jerusalem in England" ? I would have thought of all the choices available, a disputed middle eastern religious hot spot is the last thing this country needs within it's borders !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I prefer the song, I would not want it as our anthem as it's Irish!! Why would I be offended by you preferring Land of hope and glory? Not my cup of tea but neither is Jeuruselum! My apologies fella if I misunderstood your post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I think the trouble is Jerusalem is long and complicated. GSTQ is short, snappy and even the average footballer IQ can handle it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I Agree with most of you, Jerusalem would be the best choice by a long way. Rule Britannia is another GB anthem although it would be a damn sight better than God save the Queen (That song really sounds like a dirge) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Going slightly off topic but talking about Anthems, when was the last time you heard Abide by me sung like this at the FA Cup final? Maybe it was the welsh boyos.. glorious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the b's Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Elgar - Nimrod...no need for lyrics, if that doesn't rouse the soul, make the hairs stand up and make you proud to be English, nothing will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Going slightly off topic but talking about Anthems, when was the last time you heard Abide by me sung like this at the FA Cup final? Maybe it was the welsh boyos.. glorious. And now you've made me cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Elgar - Nimrod...no need for lyrics, if that doesn't rouse the soul, make the hairs stand up and make you proud to be English, nothing will Agreed, fantastic piece, has brought me to tears on occasions. During the World Cup it was noticeable how many nations' anthems don't have lyrics, the Argies being the most noticeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Or we could just write a new anthem.....? Lots of countries have down the years, bring it a bit more up to date. GSTQ is an out of date dirge. Whoever above said they like Ireland's Call, I'm with you on that, gets the juices flowing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I vow to thee my country and Jerusalem are 2 of three hymns for my wedding next week. I had both at my wedding too mate Not to put the hex on yours, my marriage lasted 6 years......good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Jesus christ our Football players can barely remember God save the queen can you imagine fhen trying to learn Jerusalem because i doubt hardly any of them know it.. True, but then the taff players manage to learn their national anthem, even in their daft language ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Perhaps if we can spice up the tune to this old one. They'll always be an England. http://youtu.be/QFsD7Q5QAS4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Bristol Born & Red Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 The Wurzels classic 'Give Me England!'...."Give me England any time my dear, give me England any time of year...." (was the theme from 'Confessions From A Holiday Camp') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahatma Coate Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Flanders and Swann's " song of patriotic prejudice " as adapted by Fred Wedlock anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Always preferred rule britania or land of hope and glory, absolutely hate god save the fascist I mean queen :-) Those two are for all of the UK,an anthem just for England is needed. I'm the same as you GSTQ is drab and is about one person and not our country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Perhaps if we can spice up the tune to this old one. They'll always be an England. http://youtu.be/QFsD7Q5QAS4 Another excellent choice ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 To Be a PilgrimIs this a suggestion for a national anthem, or are you planning to go on a journey to a holy place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcityman Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Elgar - Nimrod...no need for lyrics, if that doesn't rouse the soul, make the hairs stand up and make you proud to be English, nothing will Now that is a an absolute masterpiece, I love that that piece of music, as you say it's very emotive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedYoshi Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Bill Bailey sorted it years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R7OVnTyUvM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Bill Bailey sorted it years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R7OVnTyUvM Well (Wow!). I have just watched and listened to this and, frankly, I do not understand one word or note. It must be a generation thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Bill Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I, as an atheist and republican, would be happy to see the back of GSTQ which is a dreadful dirge. Either Jerusalem or LOHAG would be a great improvement. Don't tell anyone but I actually like the German national anthem - but only as a piece of music - honestly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Has anyone suggested "Drink up thee Cider" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedYoshi Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 ... as an atheist ... Either Jerusalem or LOHAG would be a great improvement. Both of which still bang on about God, mind. Difficult to find anything appropriate that doesn't. Well (Wow!). I have just watched and listened to this and, frankly, I do not understand one word or note. It must be a generation thing. You mean, you don't want to see Wayne Rooney attempting to use a theremin?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I had both at my wedding too mate Not to put the hex on yours, my marriage lasted 6 years......good luck Brilliant. So both people who had these are now divorced :laugh:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I live in hope it will someday get changed to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Orns Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 Brilliant. So both people who had these are now divorced . Obviously a massive coincidence.....! Good luck with it all mate, we watched 9/11 unfold as we packed for honeymoon. That was possibly more of a sign! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I vow to thee my country and Jerusalem are 2 of three hymns for my wedding next week. Jerusalem was one of the hymns at my wedding - I'm now divorced! I had both at my wedding too mate Not to put the hex on yours, my marriage lasted 6 years......good luck Brilliant. So both people who had these are now divorced . Just to try and even it up a bit, I had Jerusalem at my wedding and we are still married 10 years later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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