Mr Mosquito Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Sorry, but I cannot help but laugh at the fact you're on the one hand chastising people for not defending their voting history vigorously enough whilst on the other dismissing the culpability of the electorate in voting for Blair. Surely you cannot have it both ways my friend? From the point of view of an average BCFC cider head, the Labour Party regime directed the West Midlands Police to arrest our fellow supporters at Walsall for the 'heinous crime' of trying to enter the Walsall ground after a pre match half zider in the Saddlers' club. They were all taken to court. So why has no Labour Party warmonger been taken to court over warmongering in Iraq? We are all supposed to be equal under law and yet Tony Blair and his fellow Labour Party cronies have escaped being taken to court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Litoris Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 i'll put it in capitals to make it easier for you THE TORIES WERE UNELECTABLE, like labour now they had no visible viable policies and they were fighting with each other. But you are good at side stepping the question, so perhaps you believe Ed and his merry band of war mongers who still hold most of the power in labour have no case to answer, that's fine, I suppose we will see when it comes to the next election when I think Iraq will this time and at long last be an issue, an election which of course can now be run along the lines of labour criticising the tories immigration policy because unlike in 2010 labour claimed it to be racist to debate their immigration failures but now it won't be. As for my political persuasion, I hate them all if they have MP or politician after their then IMO 95% as Frank Zappa said "we're only in it for the money", I just happen to hate socialists more because in the main they are easily the biggest political hypocrites on the planet No visible or viable policies? 200,000 homes a year, Raising the minimum wage, restoring the 50p rate of tax, encouraging the renationalisation of the railways, defending the NHS? Obviously it could be better, but those are enough policies for me to be encouraged by. Certainly better than the Tories pledges which so far seem to be "get rid of the foreigners, tax the poor, restrict economic growth and let UKIP simplify the debate over Europe to the point where the referendum will be won before it's even voted for. Now, you're starting to sound a bit cranky. This debate doesn't need to get heated. We're on the other ends of the political spectrum. That's fine and I respect your views despite disagreeing with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Litoris Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 I THINK BLAIR IS A WAR CRIMINAL TOO. YOU'RE PREACHING TO THE CONVERTED. clear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Certainly better than the Tories pledges which so far seem to be "get rid of the foreigners, tax the poor, restrict economic growth and let UKIP simplify the debate over Europe to the point where the referendum will be won before it's even voted for. Far from getting rid of foreigners the Tories are inviting more in. This is to provide cheap and easily subjugated labour for the big Tory landowners and to increase the profits of the Tories that rent out inner city properties. Labour also like foreigners as they tend to vote Labour when they first arrive here. I'll be voting UKIP to give the EU loving Tories and their Labour Party bedfellows a wake up call that their treason in selling us out to the EU will not be tolerated or forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Litoris Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Far from getting rid of foreigners the Tories are inviting more in. This is to provide cheap and easily subjugated labour for the big Tory landowners and to increase the profits of the Tories that rent out inner city properties. Labour also like foreigners as they tend to vote Labour when they first arrive here. I'll be voting UKIP to give the EU loving Tories and their Labour Party bedfellows a wake up call that their treason in selling us out to the EU will not be tolerated or forgotten. 0 seats will be a huge wake up call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 0 seats will be a huge wake up call. You hark on about hating Tories but to me the Tories and Labour are the same EU loving traitor political party. Labour are Toff wannabees and Tories are often the real thing and both are bigged up by the BBC propaganda machine into being 'left and right' when really you couldn't put a fag paper between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 No visible or viable policies? 200,000 homes a year, Raising the minimum wage, restoring the 50p rate of tax, encouraging the renationalisation of the railways, defending the NHS? Obviously it could be better, but those are enough policies for me to be encouraged by. Certainly better than the Tories pledges which so far seem to be "get rid of the foreigners, tax the poor, restrict economic growth and let UKIP simplify the debate over Europe to the point where the referendum will be won before it's even voted for. Now, you're starting to sound a bit cranky. This debate doesn't need to get heated. We're on the other ends of the political spectrum. That's fine and I respect your views despite disagreeing with them. Get off your high horse, i'm not getting heated you asked a question and I answered it, i'm sorry if doesn't sit with your version of the world, but hey why not get it closed down again your good at that. 200,000 homes a year, that's another manifesto pledge that'll never be fulfilled then and for the record labour's immigration policy is actually more radical than the tories, that's why it can't be racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Litoris Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Get off your high horse, i'm not getting heated you asked a question and I answered it, i'm sorry if doesn't sit with your version of the world, but hey why not get it closed down again your good at that. 200,000 homes a year, that's another manifesto pledge that'll never be fulfilled then and for the record labour's immigration policy is actually more radical than the tories, that's why it can't be racist. Wow, I'm really trying to be polite and sincere here. Also, maybe you should have some knowledge of a topic before commenting. I had absolutely nothing to do with the closure of this forum and have made a grand total of ZERO moderation reports. Tomarse will vouch for both of those facts. I await your apology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Wow, I'm really trying to be polite and sincere here. Also, maybe you should have some knowledge of a topic before commenting. I had absolutely nothing to do with the closure of this forum and have made a grand total of ZERO moderation reports. Tomarse will vouch for both of those facts. I await your apology. Which was the polite bit and the sincere bit?, the cranky reference or accusation of making the debate heated?. I await your apology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Litoris Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Which was the polite bit and the sincere bit?, the cranky reference or accusation of making the debate heated?. I await your apology. Well, At least you didn't sarcastically put it in capitals, eh? We have differing opinions and that's the way it's going to stay. I'm stubborn and believe wholeheartedly in what I say, that's my right. You appear to be similarly stubborn (Meant as kindly as possible) and you strongly believe what you say. So let's leave it at that for now. I'm sure we'll both vote in the general election and that's where our opinions will be put to some use. Now, I'm about to leave for Ashton Gate, enjoy the game if you're going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Anyway back on topic, I think Boris could put himself up in a marginal (i'm not suggesting for a moment that even Boris would be that gung ho) and probably win comfortably. His popularity is a bit like Prince Philip everybody knows he's (let's say) inappropriate at times, but he remains popular with the public, is it because secretly we laugh at his gaffs perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Anyway back on topic, I think Boris could put himself up in a marginal (i'm not suggesting for a moment that even Boris would be that gung ho) and probably win comfortably. His popularity is a bit like Prince Philip everybody knows he's (let's say) inappropriate at times, but he remains popular with the public, is it because secretly we laugh at his gaffs perhaps? Well, I reckon there are a few constituences in Bristol that Boris could win. It would help put Bristol back on the political map. The last controversial and top MP Bristol had was Tony Benn way back in the 60s, 70s and 80s. I would have voted for Tony Benn had I lived in East Bristol and I would vote for Boris - not because of their Labour or Tory political affiliation but because they're maverick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Litoris Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Well, I reckon there are a few constituences in Bristol that Boris could win. It would help put Bristol back on the political map. The last controversial and top MP Bristol had was Tony Benn way back in the 60s, 70s and 80s. I would have voted for Tony Benn had I lived in East Bristol and I would vote for Boris - not because of their Labour or Tory political affiliation but because they're maverick. and yet they couldn't be any more opposite... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 and yet they couldn't be any more opposite... Tony Benn had no love for the European Union project and nor does Boris it seems......and they both had aristocratic backgrounds and they were both educated at Oxford University. They are opposite and yet the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 ....the Labour Party shut down more coal pits than Mrs Thatcher prior to Mrs Thatcher's regime. The Labour Party regime 1997-2010 did very little to help the economically shattered mining communities. The British people have seen old and new socialist policies and they didn't like much of what they saw and that's the real reason why we no longer live under a Labour government. In fact, many voted Labour as a reaction to the Tories not because they liked Labour. We have covered the mines situation before,and you know we have. But once again,just for you. Labour shut uneconomic pits down,BUT with no job losses,miners were moved to other local pits or could accept redundancy if they so chose. By 1997 the mining communities had been destroyed by Thatcher/Major,so for you to try and claim that Labour were in any way to blame is ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Well, I'm more than willing to politely disagree about the merits of socialism. Democratic socialism will work fine because, frankly, the majority of the british public support socialist policies (according to recent polling). Unfortunately there has not been a true opposition for the majority of this coalition for the public to get behind. Ed is an enigma. He can at times engage the debates people want to have well... at the same time he can also flounder. Will he make a good PM? I couldn't really say. Is he an infinitely better option than any one of Boris, Call me Dave, Facist Nige, Osbourne or Clegg? Hell-*******-yes. Surely the Unions choosing Ed is about as democratic as it comes? The unions represent many millions of workers, and Ed was more likely to defend us than his blairite brother. I also haven't defended New Labour. I called it Thatcherism... and there can be no greater insult than to call something Thatcherism. I wonder why we never see the expression 'democratic capitalism' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Litoris Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 I wonder why we never see the expression 'democratic capitalism' ? Because there's no such thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 I wonder why we never see the expression 'democratic capitalism' ? Because there's no such thing. Google is wonderful thing to use before opening one's mouth. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_capitalism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge Batch Red Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Google is wonderful thing to use before opening one's mouth.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_capitalism He's perhaps referring to the Marxist theory of false consciousness. Latterly developed as theories of manufactured consent. Where people such as yourself obtain their views from the daily mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 He's perhaps referring to the Marxist theory of false consciousness. Latterly developed as theories of manufactured consent. Where people such as yourself obtain their views from the daily mail. Wow pretty rich coming from you flower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 Because there's no such thing. Quote That's right, Folks. Mr Mosquito believes that over 1 million british people using food banks to avoid starvation is sign enough that Capitalism feeds people too well. That's without mentioning the starvation around the world that can be attributed to capitalist oppression. Mr Mosquito, our resident Toff sympathising, UKIP voting, genocide excusing 'sage'. I feel extremely flattered to be mentioned in your signature, but where are these 1 million British people that are near to starving? Also, if Capitalism isn't working in Britain then why do so many people want to come here especially if - as you write - so many native British are near starvation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 There's another Red Ed you British be should wary of. Bilderberg member Ed Balls. ....don't you mean 'Ed Bollux'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 I see good old Francois 'the wad' Hollande, the well known socialist failure in France has just sacked the whole of his government, this is the government he only put together 5 months ago after sacking the previous government that he had originally selected on his election in 2012, so way to go Frankie 3 governments in 2 years an approval rating of 17%, the only thing missing is trying to buy the gas. Sort of makes Boris seem almost normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 I see good old Francois 'the wad' Hollande, the well known socialist failure in France has just sacked the whole of his government, this is the government he only put together 5 months ago after sacking the previous government that he had originally selected on his election in 2012, so way to go Frankie 3 governments in 2 years an approval rating of 17%, the only thing missing is trying to buy the gas. Sort of makes Boris seem almost normal. If all else fails then Francois should re-instate France's head chopping machine. The last person guillotined in France was Hamida Djandoubi, on the 10th September 1977. It's been downhill for the French Republic ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 If all else fails then Francois should re-instate France's head chopping machine. The last person guillotined in France was Hamida Djandoubi, on the 10th September 1977. It's been downhill for the French Republic ever since. By the time they've had all their coffee breaks, fag breaks, gallic shrug breaks, surrender just in case breaks and 2 hour lunch, there won't be anytime to use the chopping machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted August 26, 2014 Author Admin Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Uxbridge is where the hat has landed..... Will they accept him??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mosquito Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 By the time they've had all their coffee breaks, fag breaks, gallic shrug breaks, surrender just in case breaks and 2 hour lunch, there won't be anytime to use the chopping machine. ....what about the 2 hour lunchbreaks - with a bottle of French red wine and French bread - that the EEC Tories and EEC Labour promised the British worker should we join and remain in the EEC ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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