Robbored Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Windies first innings 299 all out. England 138-1 first innings after 55 overs. Cook 65 n.on and Trott made a half century. Much better performance all round - so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Windies first innings 299 all out. England 138-1 first innings after 55 overs. Cook 65 n.on and Trott made a half century. Much better performance all round - so far Well of course apart from an age old problem of removing the last wicket partnership of 52 runs this time, something that world class teams tend to do with ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Well of course apart from an age old problem of removing the last wicket partnership of 52 runs this time, something that world class teams tend to do with ease. No-one is claiming that England are world class. Their frailties are there for all to see. That said, the Windies are finding it difficult as well on what is a very unresponsive wicket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Well of course apart from an age old problem of removing the last wicket partnership of 52 runs this time, something that world class teams tend to do with ease. And the top sides score at 4 an over. Our top order does poke and prod around at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 England middle order batting collapse alert!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 England middle order batting collapse alert!!!!!!!! Alert appears to be over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Root really does have something about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Root really does have something about him. Yep - just made his first overseas century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Ha ha fair play Marlon Samuels that was hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 England lead by 165. Three English run out victims. Very unusual in test match cricket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Ridiculous to play Stokes and Jordan. With Ali not bowling well we don't look very dangerous. Wood or Plunkett need to play, or both, in the next test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Ridiculous to play Stokes and Jordan. With Ali not bowling well we don't look very dangerous. Wood or Plunkett need to play, or both, in the next test. No idea why we are playing a part time spinner in Ali, guess he was picked for his batting but the issue was always going to be getting 20 wickets on those dead pitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Honestly I'm not sure what anyone sees in Jordan. The bowler that is. In fact I'm not sure what anyone sees in Jordan as a holiday resort either. Or Katie Price. Although I suppose Eddie Jordan is okish, and Michael Jordan was pretty good at what he did. Jordan Henderson seems to have come good recently tho. In short, Jordan is crap, dangerous, slutty, ok, mesmerising and ok for Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Honestly I'm not sure what anyone sees in Jordan. The bowler that is. He's got pace, real pace regularly bowling at 85-90mph. In the right conditions he can get the ball swinging as well. That's something Broad rarely does. His 'problem' is his inexperience at test level. In the past the selectors have been criticised for not giving new players enough of a chance to establish themselves but Jordan is an example of that changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Should be an easy chase plenty of time, superb effort today from the bowlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Was a good morning session and England should see this home. Looks a nasty injury to holder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 He's got pace, real pace regularly bowling at 85-90mph. In the right conditions he can get the ball swinging as well. That's something Broad rarely does. His 'problem' is his inexperience at test level. In the past the selectors have been criticised for not giving new players enough of a chance to establish themselves but Jordan is an example of that changing. He gets about 3.5 balls an over on the spot. Not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 England go 1-0 up in the series, winning by 9 wickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Very good day for England. One horrible session really cost the Windies. Let's be fair, England got 20 wickets and won at a canter in the end, but I still think they need more variety in the attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 Not WIndies but sqaud for Ireland ODI has been revealed James Taylor Zafar Ansari Jonny Bairstow Sam Billings Tim Bresnan Steven Finn Lewis Gregory Alex Hales Jason Roy James Vince David Willey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 Picking Gregory who's best format is the 4 day game... typical England that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 Why we still picking Bresnan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 Why we still picking Bresnan? He's economical and is handy with the bat. Good option for limited overs, not quick enough for test match level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 something isn't work what do cook and moores do? persist with it because they can't admit it that they were wrong..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Was the last chance to give Lyth or whoever an easier introduction to test match cricket too. Still, my main worry is the persistence with four medium to medium fast seamers on these pitches. I'd have brought Plunkett and another spinner in for Stokes and Jordan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Was the last chance to give Lyth or whoever an easier introduction to test match cricket too. Still, my main worry is the persistence with four medium to medium fast seamers on these pitches. I'd have brought Plunkett and another spinner in for Stokes and Jordan. bowling front they haven't done much wrong, I do like Jordan as he's handy with ball and bat, Broad and Anderson are as reliable as ever, Stokes and Ali also handy bowlers even root should be bowled a bit more, the top order is a shambles and has been for almost 2 years not, we havent replaced Straus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Trott fails again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 bowling front they haven't done much wrong, I do like Jordan as he's handy with ball and bat, Broad and Anderson are as reliable as ever, Stokes and Ali also handy bowlers even root should be bowled a bit more, the top order is a shambles and has been for almost 2 years not, we havent replaced Straus I think you need a bit more to get 20 wickets on these pitches. The last match was meandering to a bore draw until an unbelievable spell from Anderson. England don't need the extra batting of Jordan and Stokes and I think it's negative to select them over better bowlers. It'd solve the problem of batting Jos at eight as well, a waste in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 I think you need a bit more to get 20 wickets on these pitches. The last match was meandering to a bore draw until an unbelievable spell from Anderson. England don't need the extra batting of Jordan and Stokes and I think it's negative to select them over better bowlers. It'd solve the problem of batting Jos at eight as well, a waste in my view. I disagree we do need the extra batting because of the constant top order failings How many times have root and bell dug us out of the shit in the last 18 months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 I disagree we do need the extra batting because of the constant top order failings How many times have root and bell dug us out of the shit in the last 18 months? I think you're missing the point a bit, Monk. I'm not suggesting that England drop any 'recognised' batsmen, I'm suggesting that they might consider picking bowlers primarily on their ability to bowl rather than whether they can bat a bit as well. It's not as if Jordan in particular has been getting big scores at number nine either, indeed, Plunkett's first class average is actually better than his. When you've got a class act like Buttler batting at 8 I think it's ridiculous to worry about 'weakening the batting' in favour of two more out and out bowlers. You talk about failure but actually all of the top eight have got scores at some point on this tour. Fair enough Cook hasn't got a century for a zillion years but he appears to be slowly resembling the great player he was. Trott hasn't looked good at all and I think that experiment should end but even he's contributed a 50 in this series. I think that Jordan and Stokes are good players but I don't think either are particularly threatening bowlers, hopefully they'll prove me wrong but I fear for England taking on NZ and Australia with this attack. This series would have been the perfect place to experiment with the attack. Sadly England are determined to pick three seamers (four if you count Stokes) and a part-time (albeit rapidly improving) spinner regardless of the pitch and conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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