exAtyeoMax Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 UEFA have a big decision to make. Just announced that they will boycott the congress if the election goes ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Just announced that they will boycott the congress if the election goes ahead Great news, beginning of the end i hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Taylor10 Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Just announced that they will boycott the congress if the election goes ahead Really? That's very big indeed. Surely Blatter can't ride this out?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Really? That's very big indeed. Surely Blatter can't ride this out?? Where is he now? Has he been on the telly at all today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Really? That's very big indeed. Surely Blatter can't ride this out?? Day 1 of a massive investigation...he's gone imo...England 2018 & USA 2022 being muted on Sky news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) Day 1 of a massive investigation...he's gone imo...England 2018 & USA 2022 being muted on Sky news I'm backing the bid - I still have my flag I'd quite like 2022 to be in Oz Edited May 27, 2015 by exAtyeoMax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Day 1 of a massive investigation...he's gone imo...England 2018 & USA 2022 being muted on Sky news Somebody better get Stevie Lans on the blower and tell him to get the Atyeo flattened sharpish and get a big monster built in its place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Day 1 of a massive investigation...he's gone imo...England 2018 & USA 2022 being muted on Sky news I can't see Russia having that for one minute. From what I understand they can't do a re-vote or just hand the World cup to someone else though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 I'm backing the bid - I still have my flag I'd quite like 2022 to be in Oz me too,.....oz a good shout but the Yanks are gonna want something out of this, be nice to know that the winners will be able to tax any money paid to Fifa as this was one of the stipulations of previous bids and the reason the Dutch puled out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 I can't see Russia having that for one minute. From what I understand they can't do a re-vote or just hand the World cup to someone else though? If proven that the vote was rigged then how could it be held in Russia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Is that definite ? I've read that UEFA have said they'll consider a boycott if it goes ahead, but decide on Thursday. A stark warning i think, who will blink first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 If proven that the vote was rigged then how could it be held in Russia It still could be, apparently those who are found guilty of corruption will obviously have their vote thrown out. Then they will do a 're-count' from the remaining 'legit' members. If the initial legit members majority of votes were for Russia then it will stay in Russia. Likewise Qatar, which is far more likely as they won the vote by an absolute landslide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 If noise starts coming from political circles about the 2018 World Cup switching, it'll be clear this is more about geo politics than the American authorities being wholly altruistic in their motives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 It still could be, apparently those who are found guilty of corruption will obviously have their vote thrown out. Then they will do a 're-count' from the remaining 'legit' members. If the initial legit members majority of votes were for Russia then it will stay in Russia. Likewise Qatar, which is far more likely as they won the vote by an absolute landslide. Good point,but just think the USA will want to give the Russians a serious bloody nose & if common sense is part of the investigation Qatar will be scrapped. but only my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 If noise starts coming from political circles about the 2018 World Cup switching, it'll be clear this is more about geo politics than the American authorities being wholly altruistic in their motives. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Good point,but just think the USA will want to give the Russians a serious bloody nose & if common sense is part of the investigation Qatar will be scrapped. but only my opinion Completely agree but too good to be true I feel. I will just be happy with that snivelling**** Blatter being ousted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 If noise starts coming from political circles about the 2018 World Cup switching, it'll be clear this is more about geo politics than the American authorities being wholly altruistic in their motives. I would still go and get a double whopper, pack of Budweiser and put on a suit to salute a star spangled banner each anniversary if it achieves its aims, regardless of the motive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider_boy Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Is with all criminal gangs,you round up the foot soldiers and get them to flip on the godfather And the Americans are particularly good at this, they use this 'rolling up' method in corporate corruption cases all the time. If your a rich 80 year old used to the good life, do you spent the rest of your life locked up, or do you give up those above you? FIFA may be big, but no match for the full force of the USA/FBI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 The Attorney General spoke earlier, that's making your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Just sit tight and watch my friend. Don't get me wrong, H. If the tier 1 sponsors threaten to pull out, and Uefa make good their boycott threat, Blatter will go. Don't expect to see him being extradited to a US prison is what I was saying. He has too many friends in Switzerland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXGtktZr__0 The US Attorney speaking yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Don't get me wrong, H. If the tier 1 sponsors threaten to pull out, and Uefa make good their boycott threat, Blatter will go. Don't expect to see him being extradited to a US prison is what I was saying. He has too many friends in Switzerland. discredited and gone will suit me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Could Sky be involved as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Could Sky be involved as well? nah i wouldn't of thought so, they never have been given the chance to bid for the rights to show world cup football, and I can't remember them ever being a FIFA sponser, if this scandle was UEFA then maybe but not FIFA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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havanatopia Posted May 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) If noise starts coming from political circles about the 2018 World Cup switching, it'll be clear this is more about geo politics than the American authorities being wholly altruistic in their motives. Interestingly though Barrs is the fact that the 2018/2022 investigation is being conducted, at least in public, by the Swiss Authorities. This is well planned and choreographed by the US and Switzerland with other Football bodies, behind the scenes, lending their advise and support. The US Justice Dept are very savvy operators, they have to be, and they know better than anyone that to be seen to be over reaching, even if they are not, is a potential banana skin; the fact they have the full support of the Swiss is key here and for them to be 'handling' the 2018/2022 investigation is a very sensible and obvious move therefore. What is less sensible are the remarks today from Putin; firstly by criticising the US, secondly by publicly backing Blatter and thirdly by being a hypocrite in saying the following and I quote "Sport and Politics should be kept separate" Putin is President of Russia and therefore at the zenith of Russian politics and what is he talking about?.. duhhh.. Sport. Is this guy an idiot, is it purely for Russian consumption or does he bizarrely, coldly or sadistically love winding us up? Bizarre that one for me. He loves to pick a fight that guy he really does. He behaves like he is on some adversarial computer game, in fact he looks a bit like one of those computer generated avatars.. one of the ugly ones though. Edited May 28, 2015 by havanatopia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted May 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Don't get me wrong, H. If the tier 1 sponsors threaten to pull out, and Uefa make good their boycott threat, Blatter will go. Don't expect to see him being extradited to a US prison is what I was saying. He has too many friends in Switzerland. Red, i am not sure even then that he will go considering Asia and Africa federations have come out in support.. its a sorry state of affairs though if those two continents can hold the balance of power over Europe and the Americas, the traditional power houses. This is pure Blatter influence playing out here but I think the pack of cards could fall rather quickly following the UEFA meeting today; especially if the Americas follow suit. Losing both surely would be too much even for teflon. As for friends in Switzerland? Somebody on this thread said that FIFA tried, perhaps succeeded, to indict some Swiss Justice people.. if that is true there is severe bad blood.. I think with or without that though you might be surprised that he has severely over-reached this time and his friends might start falling away. Again, I think the UEFA meeting is key here to knocking over that first building block card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Could Sky be involved as well? I think it almost certain that Sky will be whispering in very many ears right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 UEFA have said that their members will block vote for Al Hussein. Thing is Russia have already pledged to vote for Blatter, so the UEFA vote is split. Could there seriously be a split from FIFA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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