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Sky sports news say Blackburn favourites to sign Elliott Bennett on a permanent deal. Another player looks like we are going to miss out on!

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2 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said:

This gets better and better ...  Surely this was one we could have tied up well in advance.

If we aren't careful we'll not have enough players to start a game.

We don't know what discussions have taken place between Blackburn and Norwich, knowing that his time here was ending.

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I don't know whether to laugh or cry?? Even SC seemed confident that Elliot bennet would be staying with us for the rest of the season.

I don't blame the lad, Lambert done a lot for him at Norwich and lets be honest he probably looked at our even smaller squad and realised enough is enough.

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1 minute ago, tts_city said:

And who could blame him, probably sick of the pantomime going on at the gate and doesnt fancy league one, he might also get played in position there.

He said it was a shock to the system being asked to play wing back with all it's extra physical and mental expenditure.

Wonder what package and position Blackburn are offering.

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1 minute ago, spudski said:

He said it was a shock to the system being asked to play wing back with all it's extra physical and mental expenditure.

Wonder what package and position Blackburn are offering.

possibly winger according to their twitter

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1 minute ago, spudski said:

He said it was a shock to the system being asked to play wing back with all it's extra physical and mental expenditure.

Wonder what package and position Blackburn are offering.

They don't have parachute payments and they are in a god awful crap town.  Wonder why people always insist our location is a problem.

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6 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said:

This gets better and better ...  Surely this was one we could have tied up well in advance.

If we aren't careful we'll not have enough players to start a game.

So if you were EB's agent, would you advise him to commit his future to BCFC well in advance of the end of his loan and transfer window? of would you wait to see what offers are on the table and what clubs are interested?

 

Easy this football manager business on a forum!!

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2 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said:

They don't have parachute payments and they are in a god awful crap town.  Wonder why people always insist our location is a problem.

our location in the bottom 3 doesn't help!!!!

Blackburn is truly one of the worst towns in uk, on par with Wolverhampton!

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4 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

So if you were EB's agent, would you advise him to commit his future to BCFC well in advance of the end of his loan and transfer window? of would you wait to see what offers are on the table and what clubs are interested?

 

Easy this football manager business on a forum!!

Thanks for the patronising tone.

We could, conceivably, have made it attractive enough for the lad in advance.  SC sounded positive enough.  I agree though, unless you have his signature, nothing is guaranteed.

We have a near-impossible task now of convincing anyone to sign.  We've allowed a thread-bare, poor squad to shrink further and, unless someone is prepared to jump to us first, who is going to commit themselves?

I can only see promising League 1 players or has-been journeymen coming now.

The lack of foresight and the risk we took letting good players leave first (in the summer) means our board (and SC) have shown their actions to be reckless. Simple.

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2 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said:

They don't have parachute payments and they are in a god awful crap town.  Wonder why people always insist our location is a problem.

Plenty of places not far from Blackburn that are pleasant to live...nothing to do with Bristol as a City...it's the club.

 

3 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

So if you were EB's agent, would you advise him to commit his future to BCFC well in advance of the end of his loan and transfer window? of would you wait to see what offers are on the table and what clubs are interested?

 

Easy this football manager business on a forum!!

Perhaps he can see that we could quiet easily get relegated under SC and his 'system'....

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4 minutes ago, spudski said:

So Baker, Williams injured. Moore, Cox and Robinson gone....and now most likely Bennett. Kinnel...

Sobering isnt it, just when you thought things couldnt get any worse, the size of our squad is pitifull, we are a couple injurys away from a real crisis.

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Just now, tts_city said:

Sobering isnt it, just when you thought things couldnt get any worse, the size of our squad is pitifull, we are a couple injurys away from a real crisis.

We are already there imo.

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1 minute ago, tts_city said:

Sobering isnt it, just when you thought things couldnt get any worse, the size of our squad is pitifull, we are a couple injurys away from a real crisis.

We are at risk of playing our reserve keeper in an outfield position!

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1 minute ago, Super said:

I take it he has never been to Blackburn....

There's plenty of good places to live near Blackburn and loads of football clubs around should he fancy a change. Add the Paul Lambert relationship and the state of City then am sure that the decision will be a no-brainer if the money's right.

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1 minute ago, tts_city said:

Sobering isnt it, just when you thought things couldnt get any worse, the size of our squad is pitifull, we are a couple injurys away from a real crisis.

It's a disgrace tbh...Fans make excuses for lack of signings...but no other club is having as many problems as us.

Great bunch of lads here...but they must be feeling like they have a mountain to climb right now.

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2 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said:

We are at risk of playing our reserve keeper in an outfield position!

hes never started a game in goal let alone outfield!!! Mad to think one of our 16/17 players is 17 year old max oleary, 0 apps!!

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18 minutes ago, BCFC_Dan said:

We do at least have Mark Little who would have been in the position all season had he not been injured. It's not good to lose Bennett but it could be worse.

IMO Bennett is far more superior than Little.  Peterborough sold Little as soon as the got promoted to the Championship so why is he good enough for BC?!

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This is fast turning into a joke and one that is not funny. EB should have been a deal ready to be done as soon as the window opened. Other teams have signed players and EB is out of contract in the Summer.  What is going on. The lack of activity is desperate when we have known since the start of the season that we have an urgent need for reinforcements. Deals should have been done and simply rubber stamped....

I dont blame SC for all of this. I blame the board and Bristol Sport. I blame the director of football. There is no strategy and no leadership. I suspect SC is not responsible for transfers but is part of a transfer committee and his hands are tied. This would indicate why he has no "irons on the fire", it simply is not his role. Heads should roll for the mess that has symbolised this season and I dont include SC in this. The setup is totally amateur at BCFC and is undermining the hard work of SC and an honest bunch of players.  

I know its only early in the window but I expected to see at least 3 new signings to be confirmed and in place for the WBA game and the big 2 home games against PNE and Boro. Maybe we should suggest that the club holds a trial and offer ourselves as squad players.... Desperate.  

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5 minutes ago, Spoons said:

I'm hoping beyond hope that SC and KB have got this all under control. We need 5/6 signings now at least.

cant all be loans either as nearly at full allocation for the season.

didn't realise kermogant was 34 either!

 

 

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4 minutes ago, MarkRed! said:

This is fast turning into a joke and one that is not funny. EB should have been a deal ready to be done as soon as the window opened. Other teams have signed players and EB is out of contract in the Summer.  What is going on. The lack of activity is desperate when we have known since the start of the season that we have an urgent need for reinforcements. Deals should have been done and simply rubber stamped....

I dont blame SC for all of this. I blame the board and Bristol Sport. I blame the director of football. There is no strategy and no leadership. I suspect SC is not responsible for transfers but is part of a transfer committee and his hands are tied. This would indicate why he has no "irons on the fire", it simply is not his role. Heads should roll for the mess that has symbolised this season and I dont include SC in this. The setup is totally amateur at BCFC and is undermining the hard work of SC and an honest bunch of players.  

I know its only early in the window but I expected to see at least 3 new signings to be confirmed and in place for the WBA game and the big 2 home games against PNE and Boro. Maybe we should suggest that the club holds a trial and offer ourselves as squad players.... Desperate.  

You've saved me writing this.

The board should be judged on the results of their actions.  And the inaction and results are utterly appalling.

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2 minutes ago, MarkRed! said:

This is fast turning into a joke and one that is not funny. EB should have been a deal ready to be done as soon as the window opened. Other teams have signed players and EB is out of contract in the Summer.  What is going on. The lack of activity is desperate when we have known since the start of the season that we have an urgent need for reinforcements. Deals should have been done and simply rubber stamped....

I dont blame SC for all of this. I blame the board and Bristol Sport. I blame the director of football. There is no strategy and no leadership. I suspect SC is not responsible for transfers but is part of a transfer committee and his hands are tied. This would indicate why he has no "irons on the fire", it simply is not his role. Heads should roll for the mess that has symbolised this season and I dont include SC in this. The setup is totally amateur at BCFC and is undermining the hard work of SC and an honest bunch of players.  

I know its only early in the window but I expected to see at least 3 new signings to be confirmed and in place for the WBA game and the big 2 home games against PNE and Boro. Maybe we should suggest that the club holds a trial and offer ourselves as squad players.... Desperate.  

What makes you think that Paul Lambert hadn't been in contact with Elliot Bennett or his agent about a potential move in January sometime ago? Not saying this happened as like everybody else I don't know, but it wouldn't be a big surprise would it? If that was the case then there would be nothing anyone at City could do. 

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5 minutes ago, MarkRed! said:

This is fast turning into a joke and one that is not funny. EB should have been a deal ready to be done as soon as the window opened. Other teams have signed players and EB is out of contract in the Summer.  What is going on. The lack of activity is desperate when we have known since the start of the season that we have an urgent need for reinforcements. Deals should have been done and simply rubber stamped....

I dont blame SC for all of this. I blame the board and Bristol Sport. I blame the director of football. There is no strategy and no leadership. I suspect SC is not responsible for transfers but is part of a transfer committee and his hands are tied. This would indicate why he has no "irons on the fire", it simply is not his role. Heads should roll for the mess that has symbolised this season and I dont include SC in this. The setup is totally amateur at BCFC and is undermining the hard work of SC and an honest bunch of players.  

I know its only early in the window but I expected to see at least 3 new signings to be confirmed and in place for the WBA game and the big 2 home games against PNE and Boro. Maybe we should suggest that the club holds a trial and offer ourselves as squad players.... Desperate.  

It's probably a deadly combination of the two, The Board and SC. Reluctance to pay out for players, and a refusal to sign anyone who didn't fit in with Cott's plan.

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1 minute ago, View from the Dolman said:

Why Bristol Sport if they're responsible for marketing and the suchlike as per SL's comments?

I am not sure what to believe with the running of the club. There not doing a very good marketing job for us are they as we plunge back to Lg1?  It is quite clear the structure is an utter shambles that allows the squad to be unfit for championship football with no communication being given to allay the concerns of fans. It is not as if we have been hit by a series of unfortunate injuries. The team was not strong enough when it started pre-season.... There should be a full review at the end of the season to prevent this from occurring in the future. 5 pillars :laugh:, ----- more like a series of ruins....

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Just now, Fishponds_Red said:

We now have lost 2 perfectly good Championship wingers in this transfer window as well as a LB the summer all because of SC's insistence of playing 3-5-2.  Enough is enough.

It is tempting to agree.  The only thing I can see influencing BCFC being an attractive destination is a change of manager.  Any other ideas?

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1 minute ago, Fishponds_Red said:

IMO Bennett is far more superior than Little.  Peterborough sold Little as soon as the got promoted to the Championship so why is he good enough for BC?!

Actually he made 64 appearances in 2 Championship seasons with Peterborough, and played another season back in League One.

He did perfectly well last season and hasn't had a chance to prove himself this season.

It's clear that Cotterill would like to keep Bennett and that suggests he probably does prefer him to Little, but it doesn't mean Little can't do a job and it would be preferable to lose a player such as him for whom we do have cover than one such as Korey Smith for whom we do not.

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2 minutes ago, BCFC_Dan said:

Actually he made 64 appearances in 2 Championship seasons with Peterborough, and played another season back in League One.

He did perfectly well last season and hasn't had a chance to prove himself this season.

It's clear that Cotterill would like to keep Bennett and that suggests he probably does prefer him to Little, but it doesn't mean Little can't do a job and it would be preferable to lose a player such as him for whom we do have cover than one such as Korey Smith for whom we do not.

My apologies and also to smokey live  I seem to have remembered that one incorrectly. 

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33 minutes ago, BCFC_Dan said:

We do at least have Mark Little who would have been in the position all season had he not been injured. It's not good to lose Bennett but it could be worse.

I'm not the only one happy to have Mark Little fit and back in the team then?

Not great defensively, of course, but a brilliant athlete, quick and very dangerous going forwards. I thought he was one of our most eye-catching attacking outlets last season.

What also sticks out for me is that in a 3-5-2 your two most important players are your wing-backs - and we've replaced the two wing-backs who were so good last season with a centre-half and an out-of-position loanee.

I'd be starting with Joe Bryan and Mark Little and persisting with them, personally.

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Haven't been massively impressed by Bennett, but he's been solid enough and is clearly a player Cotts. wanted to keep.

So, disappointing on that score, plus of course it will leave us even more desperately short numbers wise if there are no incomers quickly.

Obviously Bennett got on well with Lambert previously, and, if he does end up at Blackburn, that will no doubt be the deciding factor.

A bit like Wade Elliot coming here.

I trust Burt has come out of his apparent torpor and is vigorously thrusting his potential signings list under SL's nose as we speak.

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1 minute ago, Shtanley said:

Honestly I'm not a massive fan of little but I think his head down run as fast as I can I'm faster than you style could get the crowd and team going. 

At this moment it seems like its either him or one of the lads who pours pints of Butcombe under the Dolman.  That's how threadbare we are.

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I am not sure why fans have it in for SC. You need to consider the structure - when he was appointed he was to be called a Head Coach. This was because the board believed that the job of a manager was now redundant in the traditional sense. The players and coaching staff would be in place regardless of who was managing them. If you follow all the old You Tube videos of JL and SL this is made clear. SC resisted and given the desperate straits the club was in at the time, he was given the title manager. However, in reality I would be surprised if he is leading on transfers and is  managing the club in the old fashioned sense. We dont know what he does have jurisdiction over because there is no transparency with fans. If SC is in control over transfers then he deserves to be criticised. However, I really dont believe he does and this is emphasised by his media appearances, which come across as highly defensive when the issue of transfer policy is raised. SC keeps fronting up to questions in this way because he is probably toeing the party line and he knows it is not good enough. He aint gonna be fired (unless the players stop playing for him) because he is working within an agreed club strategy. Read between the lines and I think SL alluded to this in his interview. I support SC but 4 wins in 25 is sackable given our history with managers and this particular board. Thus, something is afoot in the way the club is being run. 

The fact is the board probably thought we could cope in the Championship with some marquee signings made along the way (they have done this before with David James). Do you really believe SC wanted Gayle and Grey when neither he nor the club have any track record of spending such sums on 1 player.... They were board signings to make BCFC stand out.  However, they actually ignored the areas of the team which needed strengthening. We are now paying for this as a team, because we are not as good as we thought albeit in a much more challenging league. 

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2 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Haven't been massively impressed by Bennett, but he's been solid enough and is clearly a player Cotts. wanted to keep.

So, disappointing on that score, plus of course it will leave us even more desperately short numbers wise if there are no incomers quickly.

Obviously Bennett got on well with Lambert previously, and, if he does end up at Blackburn, that will no doubt be the deciding factor.

A bit like Wade Elliot coming here.

I trust Burt has come out of his apparent torpor and is vigorously thrusting his potential signings list under SL's nose as we speak.

Evidently Blackburn have blown us out of the water financially . He wanted to stay but we could not get near the money !!!!!!! Terrible loss and also think we won't get any in. We were an attractive option in may .... Not now !! The board are division one in approach , attitude and financially

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13 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said:

I firmly believe we'll not make any permanent signings.  Anyone else disagree?

 :sub:I disagree. Imo. there will be several players, at a minimum, arriving this window. There simply have to be.

1 minute ago, CotswoldRed said:

Have you started drinking early?!

No, why do you ask?

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11 minutes ago, The Journalist said:

I'm not the only one happy to have Mark Little fit and back in the team then?

Not great defensively, of course, but a brilliant athlete, quick and very dangerous going forwards. I thought he was one of our most eye-catching attacking outlets last season.

What also sticks out for me is that in a 3-5-2 your two most important players are your wing-backs - and we've replaced the two wing-backs who were so good last season with a centre-half and an out-of-position loanee.

I'd be starting with Joe Bryan and Mark Little and persisting with them, personally.

more than happy to have mark little back, but squad is to thin. Questions over mark littles shoulder as well. Who have we got as cover for mark little now?? Don't say Wes burns as hes not a wing back hes a striker

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23 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said:

I firmly believe we'll not make any permanent signings.  Anyone else disagree?

Yes I do. I think we'll make 2 or 3. 1 good signing and 2 squad players. One of them might be this new French striker...

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18 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said:

The only thing I can see influencing BCFC being an attractive destination is a change of manager.  Any other ideas?

I'd have to agree CR. There needs to be some form of dangling carrot for potential signings that marks us out from the other options. 

I don't buy into Bristol being looked at as a bad place to live at all. Consistently ranked top 5 places to live, and reputation is only growing year on year. Can't see footballers minding where they live. There are nice places wherever you live, and on a championship players wages, they can take their pick. 

Poor results, league position, thin squad, poor tactics, stubborn manager, no signings coming in and loanees all leaving. Doesn't look great does it from an outsiders point of view. 

Unless we we have a very good transfer window I fear the worst. As such, we need a quick fix, which for me gives two options ...

Either SL throws a LOT of cash around, knowing our championship status depends on it. (Only goes to show you get what you pay for and how rediculous the summer shambles was.)

or

New manager. But this would have to be someone of resource, well connected and well respected. We'd need all the help we could get. Likely to cost £££ to get someone in, all the while being an incredibly expensive risk with zero guarantee of doing any better than SC.

Option 1 for me. Back SC with serious £ so we can fill the obvious voids of our poor season with pound coins. It's the only way I see that we can compete in the market.

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Other than making an already small squad smaller it's not a complete disaster. I still think Mark Little can do a job there, albeit has not played alot so may not last the 90. Bennett was very steady for us but not spectacular to the point where you worry about loss of goals or assists without him

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What people should bear in mind who seem to question Elliott Bennett 's quality etc is that he played 15 games for us at rwb when he is an out and out right winger! So for a attacking player to come to a new club change hos game and probably be one of the few shining lights of the Las few months is credit to him. Sadly missed along with his adaptability in a small squad.

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Just now, The Journalist said:

I'm not the only one happy to have Mark Little fit and back in the team then?

Not great defensively, of course, but a brilliant athlete, quick and very dangerous going forwards. I thought he was one of our most eye-catching attacking outlets last season.

What also sticks out for me is that in a 3-5-2 your two most important players are your wing-backs - and we've replaced the two wing-backs who were so good last season with a centre-half and an out-of-position loanee.

I'd be starting with Joe Bryan and Mark Little and persisting with them, personally.

I agree with that. Little will at least be fresh, as should Burns and Wagstaff. That's 3 options at RWB. We should strengthen elsewhere.

Joe Bryan lost his form and confidence at the beginning of the season.He also shouldn't be as jaded as the rest of the overplayed side. A return to form from him would be welcome.

 

We need options through the spine of the side, particularly midfield and up front. Kodjia is starting to show signs of fatigue and it might be an idea to get someone in their twenties to partner him. I don't want to think what would happen if we lost Korey Smith for any amount of time.

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8 minutes ago, billywedlock said:

It is becoming the only option. His lack of guile and flexibility has been laid bare. To get players in you now need someone who has a reputation that can drag a few players in for a relegation fight. If we cannot even sign Bennet then the club is a true emergency situation. For me SC has to go. I had hoped he would have adapted to the situation and new league. He has not, and whilst I fully accept the squad is not good enough, he is also now becoming the reason why we cannot improve it. 

These are SC's players and there is no doubt about their commitment to him as their manager.

If the players want SC to stay - and there is absolutely no sign this is not the case - what effect would it have on the spirit in the dressing room to sack him?

The answer imo., is probably a very negative effect, and a greater chance of relegation

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1 minute ago, The Bard said:

I agree with that. Little will at least be fresh, as should Burns and Wagstaff. That's 3 options at RWB. We should strengthen elsewhere.

Joe Bryan lost his form and confidence at the beginning of the season.He also shouldn't be as jaded as the rest of the overplayed side. A return to form from him would be welcome.

 

We need options through the spine of the side, particularly midfield and up front. Kodjia is starting to show signs of fatigue and it might be an idea to get someone in their twenties to partner him. I don't want to think what would happen if we lost Korey Smith for any amount of time.

Wes burns is a striker not a rwb!!

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