Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Not particularly advocating the fella, but surprised that his name has not really cropped up. Is he still at Barnsley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Move along, nothing to see here... He's only still in a job cus' they can't afford to sack him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wheatus59 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 12 minutes ago, Rouge Sans Pareil said: Not particularly advocating the fella, but surprised that his name has not really cropped up. Is he still at Barnsley? Goodbye ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 What?! It was a genuine question...honest! There are some cynical buggers on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 SC's next job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 Quite a few people were sagely pontificating about him, when he was at Oldham. A potential future City manager, some said. Obviously has not panned out quite as well as everyone thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Might well be a future City manager....but not in near future...imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 A person who can either bring about a circle jerk, or "burn the witch!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Been here before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 OMG HELP, SOS. NO!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 He's been given time to turn around the slum he's overseen at Barnsley, with is admirable of the board, but as a manager he is still learning his trade, albeit at a higher level than most his age. I'd have no problem with him here as gaffer in the future, if he kicks on from his early promise and finds success, but he shouldn't be on our radar right now, if our stated aims are to be believed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 @joe jordans teeth regarding JET, he was very happy at City had a break group of friends down here and was keen to sign permanently. The reason he hasn't consistently started games through the course of a full season is by his own admission, he has fitness issues. I don't know if it's an underlying health issue but is CV fitness for a footballer is very poor. if he had that he's be a shoe in at a prem team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 All good learning he's going through, and I don't doubt we'll be sniffing, once/if he's ready. I think he'll get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Rouge Sans Pareil said: Not particularly advocating the fella, but surprised that his name has not really cropped up. Is he still at Barnsley? It's really amusing how people just deride most suggestions on here, they happily call everyone who comes up with a name 'deluded' or worse. They rarely suggest anyone themselves though. I got shouted down for suggesting Pearson in Oct/Nov last year but I'd still love to see him here, and it seems that quite a few others would too. And it's hilarious to see the reaction to Warnock on here. He's a guy who could seriously make a difference and bloody well keep us up. But no, those who know best abuse him despite having never met him or knowing him personally. Fair play to you for posting a suggestion. There are merits and disadvantages to be discussed about every name, just ignore the patronising replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: It's really amusing how people just deride most suggestions on here, they happily call everyone who comes up with a name 'deluded' or worse. They rarely suggest anyone themselves though. I got shouted down for suggesting Pearson in Oct/Nov last year but I'd still love to see him here, and it seems that quite a few others would too. And it's hilarious to see the reaction to Warnock on here. He's a guy who could seriously make a difference and bloody well keep us up. But no, those who know best abuse him despite having never met him or knowing him personally. Fair play to you for posting a suggestion. There are merits and disadvantages to be discussed about every name, just ignore the patronising replies. I can't see any merits at all for considering a struggling 3rd division manager. What are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 9 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: It's really amusing how people just deride most suggestions on here, they happily call everyone who comes up with a name 'deluded' or worse. They rarely suggest anyone themselves though. I got shouted down for suggesting Pearson in Oct/Nov last year but I'd still love to see him here, and it seems that quite a few others would too. And it's hilarious to see the reaction to Warnock on here. He's a guy who could seriously make a difference and bloody well keep us up. But no, those who know best abuse him despite having never met him or knowing him personally. Fair play to you for posting a suggestion. There are merits and disadvantages to be discussed about every name, just ignore the patronising replies. I don't get the stick that Warnock gets. He's a wind up merchant for sure, but his record bears scrutiny. i bet if successful he would be a folk hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Whatever next? Some IDIOT will suggest Colin ........... Uncle Moyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, Taxi for Rennie said: Whatever next? Some IDIOT will suggest Colin ........... Uncle Moyes Has he knobbed your missus or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Rouge Sans Pareil said: Has he knobbed your missus or something? Effectively, he's knobbed all of our missusses. AND I've invented a new word. Worth getting up today. Uncle Moyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 6 minutes ago, Taxi for Rennie said: Whatever next? Some IDIOT will suggest Colin ........... Uncle Moyes Not biting....ok I will! Warnock - great track record, no one has promoted more teams, protects his players by being deliberately controversial with the media to deflect attention, gets sides to defend properly, gets sides to do it for the shirt, instills passion and 100% commitment, and he admires our club.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 1 minute ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Not biting....ok I will! Warnock - great track record, no one has promoted more teams, protects his players by being deliberately controversial with the media to deflect attention, gets sides to defend properly, gets sides to do it for the shirt, instills passion and 100% commitment, and he admires our club.... Set up your own club and appoint him as manager then. Uncle Moyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I agree it's too early for Lee, but having said that, I was talking to some Barnsley fans earlier in the season who thought he had been let down by their summer recruitment (where had I heard that before?). Since then they have made a few emergency loan additions and having stuck by him throughout a really terrible run of defeats, they are now claiming the table pretty well. I hope he continues to prove the doubters wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: I agree it's too early for Lee, but having said that, I was talking to some Barnsley fans earlier in the season who thought he had been let down by their summer recruitment (where had I heard that before?). Since then they have made a few emergency loan additions and having stuck by him throughout a really terrible run of defeats, they are now claiming the table pretty well. I hope he continues to prove the doubters wrong. I agree. Perhaps he can have the job when he grows up? Uncle TFR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Rouge Sans Pareil said: What?! It was a genuine question...honest! There are some cynical buggers on this site. To be fair, it's all been said on this thread why LJ ain't nowhere near managing our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 41 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: It's really amusing how people just deride most suggestions on here, they happily call everyone who comes up with a name 'deluded' or worse. They rarely suggest anyone themselves though. I got shouted down for suggesting Pearson in Oct/Nov last year but I'd still love to see him here, and it seems that quite a few others would too. And it's hilarious to see the reaction to Warnock on here. He's a guy who could seriously make a difference and bloody well keep us up. But no, those who know best abuse him despite having never met him or knowing him personally. Fair play to you for posting a suggestion. There are merits and disadvantages to be discussed about every name, just ignore the patronising replies. I probably shouted (explained my rationale) you down - I didn't think we were the kind of club he would be interested in....but what do I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCT10 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 The odds on Lee Johnson have fallen quickly today... 5/2 on skybet from 10's - he wouldn't be my pick, and we have seen Appleton, Pearson, Pearce all go to short odds before moving back out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I think Lee's a very good coach, did well at Oldham and struggled at the start of the season with Barnsley but the board showed faith and he's now repaying them. Still not confident that the timing is right but I'd take him over Appleton/Pearce etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 On 17/01/2016 at 13:04, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: Not particularly advocating the fella, but surprised that his name has not really cropped up. Is he still at Barnsley? Go on back to your home,Hunt...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 On 17/01/2016 at 13:04, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 The reaction here of many to Warnock goes beyond the pale....would be worth the ride just to see how many implode on his arrival....look behind the veil my friends!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I wouldn't be surprised if he came here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Glad he has picked up Barnsley of late; they had a poor start but now looking like outside bets for the play offs if they keep this up. Too soon for him to come to City. He needs a promotion first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 1 hour ago, havanatopia said: Too soon for him to come to City. He needs a promotion first. I can't see him ever getting higher than manager to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 On 17 January 2016 at 13:51, Davefevs said: Might well be a future City manager....but not in near future...imho Maybe Bath City but not here, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Absolutely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 The way he has turned Barnsley round is admirable for a young manager. I would have him over Appleton, Tisdale, Pearce, Warnock and Sherwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cider city red 81 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 On Sunday, January 17, 2016 at 13:04, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: Not particularly advocating the fella, but surprised that his name has not really cropped up. Is he still at Barnsley? Yep doing brilliantly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 2nd FAV with Skybet..... Just saying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 46 minutes ago, cider city red 81 said: Yep doing brilliantly 'Doing brilliantly' in the last month, but even 5 straight wins have only taken Barnsley to mid table. Before that struggling horribly on the edge of the relegation zone and rumoured to being one more defeat away from being sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Right man, wrong time in my opinion. He's on a hiding to nothing and with our demanding fan base and his marmite status I can only see him setting up for a failure, unless he performs like none of us should expect that he would. In another 24 months if he continues to show his abilities I hope we'd look to bring him in.That said, if he came in now I wouldn't be unhappy. He took over at Oldham and steadied the ship and progressed them - and they dropped when he went - and he now looks to be coming through adversity at Barnsley. I can see why we might be tempted and had he not been a former player scapegoat I'd probably advocate him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: 'Doing brilliantly' in the last month, but even 5 straight wins have only taken Barnsley to mid table. Before that struggling horribly on the edge of the relegation zone and rumoured to being one more defeat away from being sacked. He wasn't backed terribly well in the summer by all accounts and they still have an outside chance of making the play-offs. They are also one game away from making the FL Trophy Final at Wembley. That said, I expected them to do better this season and he hasn't shown enough to suggest he's ready for the City job yet. One day though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City1984 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: 'Doing brilliantly' in the last month, but even 5 straight wins have only taken Barnsley to mid table. Before that struggling horribly on the edge of the relegation zone and rumoured to being one more defeat away from being sacked. So was SIr Alex FergusOn at that cub in Salford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I can't think we'd be considering him at all but for his name and the fact we've heard 'the board' like him from his time here as a player. It's one thing to earmark someone as a possible manager for the future on the basis he's someone you'd be happy working with but he really has to prove himself first. May be the right man one day, now is definitely not the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Be especially good if he was allowed to bring in his own backroom staff to reshape the club Director of Football: Gary Johnson Head Coach: Lee Johnson Chief Scout: Pete Johnson The Lansdown Dream Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 20 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: 'Doing brilliantly' in the last month, but even 5 straight wins have only taken Barnsley to mid table. Before that struggling horribly on the edge of the relegation zone and rumoured to being one more defeat away from being sacked. Barnsley fans I know said he was still a long way from the sack. Chairman has a lot of faith in him. If you look at the betting list he would be in my top three out of the realistic names mentioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 7 hours ago, DCT10 said: The odds on Lee Johnson have fallen quickly today... 5/2 on skybet from 10's - he wouldn't be my pick, and we have seen Appleton, Pearson, Pearce all go to short odds before moving back out. Pearson, Warnock, Pearce were all favourites according to the bookies at one point. Means absolutely nothing apart from that's where people are putting money on, even a small amount changes the odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 8 hours ago, spudski said: I wouldn't be surprised if he came here... Me neither. Has two obvious advantages, the owner knows him and likes him and he would certainly fit the model that Mark Ashton is suggesting. Under contract until 2018 but if Barnsley keep improving and we don't look like pulling clear he's a very likely candidate, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I don't think City would be a good fit for Lee. Too much antipathy from his playing days (totally unjustified, IMHO). Funny that he's not been mentioned on here, but there's been the usual myopic love-in for his father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Hasn't achieved anything yet of note in his management career, only linked due to being a former player. If we are going for a lower league manager then Justin Edinburgh is a far better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Reds2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Favourite on skybet now :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, Reds2016 said: Favourite on skybet now I do like LLJ but I can't see him stood in front of our team giving a team talk. Pembo has at least got a presence about him and has some experience. It just is not a fit at this moment in time. If he can learn his trade and demonstrate what he can do and the potential to improve further, then maybe for the future.... but for now, it just doesn't add up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Dynamite Red said: Hasn't achieved anything yet of note in his management career, only linked due to being a former player. If we are going for a lower league manager then Justin Edinburgh is a far better option. Did really well considering budget restraints at Oldham. Could well have got them into the PO's, had it not been for the Ched Evans fiasco. Barnsley was a big jump for him, got a lot of draws towards end of last season, started this one off badly but their board obviously recognised his ability so stuck with him, now dark horses for the play-offs. Has his teams playing good football. Not the finished package but knows our club well. Like I said in another post, I'm not confident the time is right but if it's between him, Pearce, Appleton or Pembo, I'd be happy with LJ. Brendan Rodgers once singled him out (well, with someone else!!) as one of the best coaches in the lower leagues. So he must be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I work in Barnsley and people here say they've been fantastic the last few weeks and even when results were awful, a lot of their fans recognised that he was trying to change the way they play and introduce a lot of new players. He was backed though, certainly in terms of wages, but he's put together a very, very young side HOWEVER, for me it's too early for Lee to come here; not so much because we're so much bigger a job than Barnsley, but because for his own development he needs to go through the process of building and consolidating his team. In a couple of years he'll probably be very highly rated and very in demand IMO, but he's not the right fit for right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 2 hours ago, GrahamC said: Me neither. Has two obvious advantages, the owner knows him and likes him and he would certainly fit the model that Mark Ashton is suggesting. Under contract until 2018 but if Barnsley keep improving and we don't look like pulling clear he's a very likely candidate, I think. He's definitely a favourite down there...he'll end up with us at some point if another bigger team doesn't get him first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontariored Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 5 hours ago, CodeRed said: Be especially good if he was allowed to bring in his own backroom staff to reshape the club Director of Football: Gary Johnson Head Coach: Lee Johnson Chief Scout: Pete Johnson The Lansdown Dream Team Here we go again:- Mrs Gary Johnson Pie Lady Mrs Lee Johnson In charge of programs Family affair + Extended player contracts so we cant afford to shed the bad performers..... Lets stick with what we have..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snufflelufagus Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I'm presuming his son is too young to be picked in the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Peg Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 7 hours ago, CodeRed said: Be especially good if he was allowed to bring in his own backroom staff to reshape the club Director of Football: Gary Johnson Head Coach: Lee Johnson Chief Scout: Pete Johnson The Lansdown Dream Team Shhhhhhh! @Robbored will have a field day!!!!! To stick my 2 penneth in, LLJ made my toddler cry (Dean Gerken the giant, who was also stood with my little un, didn't surprisingly...) and when he learns to dress himself without looking like a tv presenter from a failed gameshow (greyish leather jacket, pink shirt, tan shoes and jeans!!!), he can come back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Septic Peg said: Shhhhhhh! @Robbored will have a field day!!!!! I don't consider little Lee to be in the same stable as his dad. I wouldn't have a problem with him as City manager - when he's achieved some standing in the managerial circus and worked in that role in the Championship. But, he's too inexperienced just now IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfieldred Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 It would liven Otib up, but not in a good way!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 I don't get all the so and so isn't experienced enough yet for such and such job in football. How and where do you get experience to if the same people get the jobs all the time. We are a lower champ. L1 side so must be a perfect club to start a career in management at. John pemberton who has no experience in management , yet people say he's perfect for the job. Yet LJ has been a manager for at least 2 seasons now but hasn't the experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted February 7, 2016 Author Share Posted February 7, 2016 Hmmmm...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 On 30/01/2016 at 12:05, wayne allisons tongues said: I don't get all the so and so isn't experienced enough yet for such and such job in football. How and where do you get experience to if the same people get the jobs all the time. We are a lower champ. L1 side so must be a perfect club to start a career in management at. John pemberton who has no experience in management , yet people say he's perfect for the job. Yet LJ has been a manager for at least 2 seasons now but hasn't the experience. True. it`s like the merry go round that happens at the top of government/local government all the time. Get a job, get sacked for incompetence but with a nice payout, get another job down the road on the same or more money, and repeat until retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: Hmmmm...... Mmmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Dawe Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 On 17/01/2016 at 13:56, YorkshireSection said: OMG HELP, SOS. NO!!!!!!! Is the HELP at hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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