East End Old Boy Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 We made early morning arrests today in connection with trouble at Bristol City’s match at Cardiff City in October last year. South Wales Police are carrying out an investigation into an assault of a steward at the match and serious disorder which occurred at the match in Cardiff on October 14. A number of troublemakers have already been arrested in connection with the incident. Anyone causing problems could also face being issued with a football banning order. There are currently 80 in force in Avon and Somerset. Silver commander for today’s operation Inspector Rob Millican said: “Today’s operation sends out a powerful message to a small minority intent on causing problems at football games that we will not tolerate disorder. “We are supporting colleagues in South Wales Police who are showing the red card to the small minority who caused problems at the Cardiff game in October. “We have arrested a number of Bristol City fans and will now put these people before the courts. Successful convictions should result in football banning orders which will mean they will no longer be able to attend games or follow their national side abroad. “We urge all attending this weekend’s match to enjoy themselves but we will not tolerate poor behaviour." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 That just confirms why the ko is at midday. Police don't want trouble makers getting beered up before the game. All this "road works" as an excuse is complete and transparent nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbored Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Whenever i hear about trouble it always seems to be the BCFC fans that are vindicated , so is it Hedlu that causes the problem or our fans. Do the Cardiff fans ever get arrested or are we targeted unfairly by Hedlu? When we play at home to Cardiff i never seem to see or hear of any trouble or is it just not reported , have any Cardiff fans been arrested at Ashton Gate or in city centre over the last couple of seasons does anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 34 minutes ago, Turbored said: Whenever i hear about trouble it always seems to be the BCFC fans that are vindicated , so is it Hedlu that causes the problem or our fans. Do the Cardiff fans ever get arrested or are we targeted unfairly by Hedlu? When we play at home to Cardiff i never seem to see or hear of any trouble or is it just not reported , have any Cardiff fans been arrested at Ashton Gate or in city centre over the last couple of seasons does anyone know? Yes one apparently and he was sentenced to death by electrocution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, oldstandrobin said: Yes one apparently and he was sentenced to death by electrocution It's Davros, from Dr Who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 30 minutes ago, oldstandrobin said: Yes one apparently and he was sentenced to death by electrocution If only..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dicks' Barmy Army Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Perhaps someone can help me? I've been looking all over the Internet but still can't find any pictures of the stewards or police that were assaulting our supporters in Cardiff..... Odd that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Turbored said: Whenever i hear about trouble it always seems to be the BCFC fans that are vindicated , so is it Hedlu that causes the problem or our fans. Do the Cardiff fans ever get arrested or are we targeted unfairly by Hedlu? When we play at home to Cardiff i never seem to see or hear of any trouble or is it just not reported , have any Cardiff fans been arrested at Ashton Gate or in city centre over the last couple of seasons does anyone know? Welsh police are far from blameless, but no doubt the way they treat City fans during & after the game isn't helped by the way SOME City fans behaved in town before the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Yea I got a knock......bloody postman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 11, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Welsh police are far from blameless, but no doubt the way they treat City fans during & after the game isn't helped by the way SOME City fans behaved in town before the game! Would say it's a chicken and egg scenario Both hhave idiots amongst their ranks and both would blame the other for any problems that occur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 We're better at policing football I reckon, than Hedlu. More even handed etc- dunno why just a hunch, as someone said bit of a recurring theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 23 minutes ago, Monkeh said: Yea I got a knock......bloody postman Did he ring twice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full nelson Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Robbored said: That just confirms why the ko is at midday. Police don't want trouble makers getting beered up before the game. All this "road works" as an excuse is complete and transparent nonsense. Don't want fans to get drunk before the games, but weatherspoons are open from early AM. A lot of these young kids can't drink so they'll be fighting anyone come 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Another massive waste of police sources, sure, go after whoever assaulted the steward no problem with that but I would love to know the offences for "early morning raids" there have been no raids on the people who attacked my Son in town 6 months ago or the low-life that burgled my house last year, in fact I haven't heard from the police since, get ready for the fake evidence with 6 plod coming out with exactly the same cock & bull story made up over coffee in the police station canteen next morning, Hedlu are on a par with the West Midlands "firm" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 25 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Welsh police are far from blameless, but no doubt the way they treat City fans during & after the game isn't helped by the way SOME City fans behaved in town before the game! But the police are there to enforce the law,not dish punishment as they deem fit,by hitting all and sundry with three foot long batons.This has now happened on several occasions.I can also remember going there for a bubble game,where no fans had been in the town before the game,and nothing of note had happened in the ground,it didn't stop the police coming on to the terrace and start assaulting people,one of which must of been in his late sixties,and I admit I reacted,along with others, by shoving the bullyboys to the front of the terrace ,the HELDU are nothing more than bullies in uniforms.Having said that if any of those arrested instigated the trouble then they have to take the consequences,don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky89 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Turbored said: Whenever i hear about trouble it always seems to be the BCFC fans that are vindicated , so is it Hedlu that causes the problem or our fans. Do the Cardiff fans ever get arrested or are we targeted unfairly by Hedlu? When we play at home to Cardiff i never seem to see or hear of any trouble or is it just not reported , have any Cardiff fans been arrested at Ashton Gate or in city centre over the last couple of seasons does anyone know? I'll never go to Cardiff again after the way to Police treated two of my friends and myself - the result was one of the Hedlu breaking my nose! Never caused trouble in my life, and never been involved in any confrontation in my life and was simply attacked by these thugs that wore uniform. They wanted us to retaliate and they wanted a fight. Once they knew they weren't getting one they moved on to find their next targets. I have no doubt many of these people being arrested this morning weren't innocent, but I bet some were . . . !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, Clarky89 said: I'll never go to Cardiff again after the way to Police treated two of my friends and myself - the result was one of the Hedlu breaking my nose! Never caused trouble in my life, and never been involved in any confrontation in my life and was simply attacked by these thugs that wore uniform. They wanted us to retaliate and they wanted a fight. Once they knew they weren't getting one they moved on to find their next targets. I have no doubt many of these people being arrested this morning weren't innocent, but I bet some were . . . !!! they are as bad as west midlands, as much as they are moaned about here Avon and Somerset are one of the better forces when it comes to policing at the gate compared to other areas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, Clarky89 said: I'll never go to Cardiff again after the way to Police treated two of my friends and myself - the result was one of the Hedlu breaking my nose! Never caused trouble in my life, and never been involved in any confrontation in my life and was simply attacked by these thugs that wore uniform. They wanted us to retaliate and they wanted a fight. Once they knew they weren't getting one they moved on to find their next targets. I have no doubt many of these people being arrested this morning weren't innocent, but I bet some were . . . !!! They seem to hate English people,especially Bristolians, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 20 minutes ago, Monkeh said: they are as bad as west midlands, as much as they are moaned about here Avon and Somerset are one of the better forces when it comes to policing at the gate compared to other areas We have a few bad apples but like you say,they are on a par with WMP where it seems institutionalised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dicks' Barmy Army Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Monkeh said: they are as bad as west midlands, as much as they are moaned about here Avon and Somerset are one of the better forces when it comes to policing at the gate compared to other areas Trouble with our region look at the % of major convictions Vs type of charge. It is massively unbalanced to arrests around the rest of the footballing world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 2 hours ago, NOTBLUE said: They seem to hate English people,especially Bristolians, I don't know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 The arrest to conviction rate is terribly imbalanced. Most of the convictions aren't safe either. Say nothing and wait for your brief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SARJ Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I wouldn't want to be a copper on match days; the way many City fans act is downright embarrassing and pathetic. They think they are being the 'big man' sticking it to the establishment, but it's just embarrassing, especially the new Clearasil Crew in the Atyeo decked out in Stone Island and Aquascutum scarves. That said, I have witnessed the Heddlu lashing out at our fans who genuinely were doing nothing. At Cardiff away when the pub got trashed a few seasons ago, I witnessed a Heddlu on horse back absolutely clatter a man in his late 50s/60s who was literally doing nothing other than walking with his son in the escort. When people intervened to help the old man, who's head was pouring with blood at this point, the dogs ad batons were released. A friend of mine almost got arrested purely for trying to help the man off the floor. As an eye witness, I can confirm he did absolutely nothing, looked like your typical older City fan in a scarf from the shop, not causing any trouble at all. 100% unprovoked police brutality from the Welsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevep38 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, SARJ said: I wouldn't want to be a copper on match days; the way many City fans act is downright embarrassing and pathetic. They think they are being the 'big man' sticking it to the establishment, but it's just embarrassing, especially the new Clearasil Crew in the Atyeo decked out in Stone Island and Aquascutum scarves. That said, I have witnessed the Heddlu lashing out at our fans who genuinely were doing nothing. At Cardiff away when the pub got trashed a few seasons ago, I witnessed a Heddlu on horse back absolutely clatter a man in his late 50s/60s who was literally doing nothing other than walking with his son in the escort. When people intervened to help the old man, who's head was pouring with blood at this point, the dogs ad batons were released. A friend of mine almost got arrested purely for trying to help the man off the floor. As an eye witness, I can confirm he did absolutely nothing, looked like your typical older City fan in a scarf from the shop, not causing any trouble at all. 100% unprovoked police brutality from the Welsh. Was it filmed or the coppers no taken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Homer Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 5 hours ago, Monkeh said: Yea I got a knock......bloody postman You had a knock from the postman? Your postman turned up before 4.00pm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 7 hours ago, Turbored said: Whenever i hear about trouble it always seems to be the BCFC fans that are vindicated , so is it Hedlu that causes the problem or our fans. Do the Cardiff fans ever get arrested or are we targeted unfairly by Hedlu? When we play at home to Cardiff i never seem to see or hear of any trouble or is it just not reported , have any Cardiff fans been arrested at Ashton Gate or in city centre over the last couple of seasons does anyone know? Last year was a few weeks before the Euros and the threat of banning orders ahead of a much anticipated appearance by Wales almost certainly played a part in their behaving at Ashton Gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevP Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 On the way back to the coach at Wolves Boxing Day, this one miserable WMP had a City fan walk past him and said the word "Helmet"......a few fans laughed. The WMP retorted using the following comment ..." The words *swear words removed stop getting round the swear filter* spring to mind.!" As there were some young children with us I told said WMP that the City fan was just jesting, knowing he could not get into trouble for simply saying "helmet". To which he took offence saying "We'll see about that !". My response was "However, the 2 offensive words you used in public most definitely ARE actionable." A quick look at his shoulder number and my quoting out loud of the 4 numbers saw him disintegrate. To say his face dropped is an understatement. I'm not saying I've got perfect vocabulary, and I swear with the best but, he was in uniform being paid by the public purse, and should act appropriately and professionally. I say "should". Here is the problem. Lots of them don't and try to hide behind the badge, uniform and, pardon the pun, helmet.. ......Here endeth the lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I was out, did I miss anything? They didn't leave me a 'while you were out' card.... Remember a game at Swansea at the old Vetch Field where a friend and I, being typically loud, were spoken to by the A&S spotters in the crowd. We toned it down from that point. Walking back to train station in large convoy, got right to the station literally one foot inside the train when the Heddlu arrived, grabbed my mate and whisked him away. Being the only thing to do I went with him, ended up at the nick in a right rage, no one on the front desk had a number on. As it goes my mate got a ban (years ago) for year. But he did nothing wrong. Heddlu by far and away the worst in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Loads of arrests for doing nothing at all means they can say more plod needed on double time at the game for the next season. Kerching! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 9 hours ago, oldstandrobin said: Yes one apparently and he was sentenced to death by electrocution It's ma soprano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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