Stortz Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, Robbored said: Like I posted earlier in this thread - I don't think Tomlin is cognitively able to see that his tendency to gob off at authority figures gets him into bother........... But you didn't quite post that did you?! Bloody hell, between you and @Full nelson this has become an object lesson in 'when good puerile jokes go bad'. Thanks for your smutty mind @Jack Dawe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dicks' Barmy Army Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, 29AR said: I did chortle reading this. You clearly are unaware how off the pulse the EP are about our club if you find them particularly trustworth. Edit - misquoted; ref @Neo's post do agree - I meant the opening post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 23 minutes ago, Alan Dicks' Barmy Army said: Time to put up or shut up Spudski, yeah you've made it clear you have contacts in the game BUT, there is much more to what you have said above So why not come out and tell the FULL story if you are so ITK !! Because thats how ITK ego's work. They give out a little bit of info just to make themselves feel more important. No disrespect aimed directly at Spudski, as he actually writes quite interesting posts, but it happens all the time on here, especially around transfers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 19 minutes ago, Stortz said: But you didn't quite post that did you?! Bloody hell, between you and @Full nelson this has become an object lesson in 'when good puerile jokes go bad'. Thanks for your smutty mind @Jack Dawe That's twice I've been "whooshed" on this thread......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Bet you Tomlin starts Saturday.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheatus59 Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Judda said: Bet you Tomlin starts Saturday.. He should start , pick the team , become the chairman , take over the club entirely because he brings a smile to my face and can do things no one else at the club can do ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Half time at Huddersfield he did cross the line but I can't see that one incident being the sole reason behind him being dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 hour ago, taxidriver999 said: I have heard from 2 reliable sources that had Lee Tomlin spoke to them as he did to Lee Johnson they would not select him to play again. Reliable in the sense that they witnessed it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Shtanley said: Half time at Huddersfield he did cross the line but I can't see that one incident being the sole reason behind him being dropped. Any idea what was said? All sorts of things get said during a game that are just heat of the moment and soon get resolved after the game. Like someone else said on the thread, you dont get fighters without the passion and emotion so when things are going shit you expect things to be said. better that than a bunch of mice just sitting there quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 2 hours ago, spudski said: This has got to be the most 'sensationalist' journalism I've read for a while...and whilst reading this forum it seems certain fans are getting sucked into it ... I am not sure that we (the wonderful OTIB community) should be criticising the Evening Post for this story. We all know their 'exclusives' are lifted from this site, so it's our own fault for creating a thread on it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, MarcusX said: Any idea what was said? LJ threatened to sub him if he lost his man again to which Tomlin replied if you sub me off I'll knock you out. Or something to that effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Shtanley said: LJ threatened to sub him if he lost his man again to which Tomlin replied if you sub me off I'll knock you out. Or something to that effect Yea probably a bit too far that one, but ive heard similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Stortz said: If Tomlin is gobbling people off when he should be focussing on his football then that is bang out of order. I'm very sorry. Doing wonders for team morale though. Would explain LJ's comments about the players having the enthusiasm of a top 6 team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 hour ago, hertsexile said: Tomlin when played works magic for the team. Well basically he doesn't. Occasionally he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 52 minutes ago, Shtanley said: LJ threatened to sub him if he lost his man again to which Tomlin replied if you sub me off I'll knock you out. Or something to that effect If, if that's true Tomlin needs to grow up,grow a chin,and grow a pair...No way you would react this way towards a person you respect & value.i guess the truth will out eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 48 minutes ago, Robert the bruce said: If, if that's true Tomlin needs to grow up,grow a chin,and grow a pair...No way you would react this way towards a person you respect & value.i guess the truth will out eventually. Unfortunately Tomlin is not blessed with the smartest mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 34 minutes ago, Robbored said: Unfortunately Tomlin is not blessed with the smartest mind. But he is blessed with undoubted football ability. He knows he could be bombed out here and someone else will snap him up, only for history to repeat itself. I'm increasingly of the opinion that whilst I appreciate his talent he couldn't give a toss about Bristol City Football Club. I personally would rather a player with less ability and more commitment and professionalism play for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Everyone writing off Tomlin as a 'luxury' player that we don't need now, seems to be forgetting that we were in a slightly worse position last season when Lee Tomlin joined us, and his assists and goals were a large part of why we didn't get relegated. For me the problem is LJ playing him (and numerous others) out of position, no wonder Tomlin has got frustrated. Played as a number ten behind the front man or front pair, he has to be one of the best in this division. Ask him to play left midfield and track back to protect left back and you are clearly inviting problems. If LJ has fallen out with LT, then for the good of the team LJ needs to get over his little-man syndrome and manage the situation like he is paid to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityCiderEd Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, RedM said: But he is blessed with undoubted football ability. He knows he could be bombed out here and someone else will snap him up, only for history to repeat itself. I'm increasingly of the opinion that whilst I appreciate his talent he couldn't give a toss about Bristol City Football Club. I personally would rather a player with less ability and more commitment and professionalism play for us. Why do people make these sweeping statements about players having no idea about their attitude and feelings towards the club.Perhaps the reason he's fed up is because he knows he hasn't performed as he did last year. As for saying players with less ability than LT then take your choice,we've got loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 20 minutes ago, old_eastender said: Everyone writing off Tomlin as a 'luxury' player that we don't need now, seems to be forgetting that we were in a slightly worse position last season when Lee Tomlin joined us, and his assists and goals were a large part of why we didn't get relegated. For me the problem is LJ playing him (and numerous others) out of position, no wonder Tomlin has got frustrated. Played as a number ten behind the front man or front pair, he has to be one of the best in this division. Ask him to play left midfield and track back to protect left back and you are clearly inviting problems. If LJ has fallen out with LT, then for the good of the team LJ needs to get over his little-man syndrome and manage the situation like he is paid to do! Sorry, but LT is not absolved of blame for this situation. They BOTH need to address the situation (we assume this has already been done) and put aside their differences for the good of the club. It is in neither of their interests for the situation not to be resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tears in rain Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 4 hours ago, Jack Dawe said: For his cognitive faculties to work, Tomlin's amygdala needs to control - keep a lid on - his stress response and therefore his emotional state. Tomlin is emotionally weak, his fight/flight response is way too sensitive and ready to fire. Authority figures - bosses, referees - set him off certainly. Therapy could help this lad Get a sport psyc in to work with emotional control and aggression? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 3 hours ago, 29AR said: I did chortle reading this. You clearly are unaware how off the pulse the EP are about our club if you find them particularly trustworth. Edit - misquoted; ref @Neo's post I did not say I found them trustworthy- just intimated that hard to see Tomlin being mature enough to sort out sensibly and a general belief of no smoke without fire where he is concerned. As said I hope it has blown over and that we will see a united squad get us out of this hole we have found ourselves in. All good and I'm breezy !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 44 minutes ago, MattRSp95 said: Get a sport psyc in to work with emotional control and aggression? Not sure we need to go to the trouble of bringing in an expensive sports psychologist to drive passion and desire to win out of our players. Our existing coaching team seem to have been doing this perfectly adequately as it is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 4 hours ago, CityCiderEd said: Why do people make these sweeping statements about players having no idea about their attitude and feelings towards the club.Perhaps the reason he's fed up is because he knows he hasn't performed as he did last year. As for saying players with less ability than LT then take your choice,we've got loads. Why do you assume that I know nothing about Tomlin's attitude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 4 hours ago, old_eastender said: Everyone writing off Tomlin as a 'luxury' player that we don't need now, seems to be forgetting that we were in a slightly worse position last season when Lee Tomlin joined us, and his assists and goals were a large part of why we didn't get relegated. For me the problem is LJ playing him (and numerous others) out of position, no wonder Tomlin has got frustrated. Played as a number ten behind the front man or front pair, he has to be one of the best in this division. Ask him to play left midfield and track back to protect left back and you are clearly inviting problems. If LJ has fallen out with LT, then for the good of the team LJ needs to get over his little-man syndrome and manage the situation like he is paid to do! Tomlin was played in the same position for us last season, didn't seem to be an issue then. He has also played as the no.10 numerous times this season, and was far from effective an many of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 9 hours ago, BCFC_Dan said: Irrespective of any discussions that may or may not have taken place, I don't think last night was a situation that suited putting him in the team. He's a luxury player who can provide a bit of magic and conjure a goal out of nothing. If our problem was a lack of goals but the defence was solid then we'd need him in the team but it's not. It's the exact opposite. We were 2-0 up against Reading and 2-1 v Cardiff. A mercurial genius who doesn't always put a shift in defensively is hardly likely to fix the situation there (arguably a 3rd goal in both situations might have killed the game, but a solid defence is a better insurance than relying on scoring again). When this horrible run is behind us and confidence is back in the team, and when the new players are fully settled in, then there will be reasons to select him again. In any game where we need to score and aren't creating chances there will be a reason to select him. Or if he changes his game to better suit the current situation there will be a reason to select him. Until one of those things happens I think his opportunities will be limited. Top post Dan spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 8 hours ago, Full nelson said: I hope the team backed LJ when LT was out of order towards Lee. This is where an enforcer comes into play! I.e. A Tony Adams sort of guy who didn't give two F's about pulling certain players back down to planet earth. Football doesn't seem to have the Tony Adams , Stuart Pearce type .characters anymore although i'm sure Wilbs would be that sort if needed. A lot of youngsters coming through academy's seem to lack the hunger or are too pampered these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 5 hours ago, RedM said: But he is blessed with undoubted football ability. He knows he could be bombed out here and someone else will snap him up, only for history to repeat itself. I'm increasingly of the opinion that whilst I appreciate his talent he couldn't give a toss about Bristol City Football Club. I personally would rather a player with less ability and more commitment and professionalism play for us. To be fair RedM , i do agree but there ain't many players who do care about the club they play for. It's a job for them that's it . They've got about 12 years to make as much money as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 5 hours ago, old_eastender said: Everyone writing off Tomlin as a 'luxury' player that we don't need now, seems to be forgetting that we were in a slightly worse position last season when Lee Tomlin joined us, and his assists and goals were a large part of why we didn't get relegated. For me the problem is LJ playing him (and numerous others) out of position, no wonder Tomlin has got frustrated. Played as a number ten behind the front man or front pair, he has to be one of the best in this division. Ask him to play left midfield and track back to protect left back and you are clearly inviting problems. If LJ has fallen out with LT, then for the good of the team LJ needs to get over his little-man syndrome and manage the situation like he is paid to do! yes too right its not just Tomlin the dwarf has fallen out with o neil patterson two name two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: To be fair RedM , i do agree but there ain't many players who do care about the club they play for. It's a job for them that's it . They've got about 12 years to make as much money as possible. I can't believe you would really want this to happen, many clubs have thrived by accepting that mavericks don't always have the desired personality - it's part of what makes them unique. I'm always disappointed to see LT on the bench, because in the albeit few rare moments each game you know he can probably make a special impact and change a game. How many of us were honestly wishing he were on the pitch when we wasted that free kick in the first half against Cardiff? We have to find a way to use his talents, whether he tracks back or kisses LJ at the end of each game or not. I think he's really that good - we can't let him move on and succeed somewhere else without trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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