Benni Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, CotswoldRed said: Not interested in your private fight, but thought I'd ask where in past history a manager has done this badly and he's been given time and it has been proven to be the right decision? Sir Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: Not interested in your private fight, but thought I'd ask where in past history a manager has done this badly and he's been given time and it has been proven to be the right decision? Benni must be LJ's missus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, Benni said: Sir Alex That's the default response, but he didn't have a run anything like as bad. And one example in 100 years doesn't really substantiate the idea, does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Benni said: Sir Alex that was 6 defeats and 2 draws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, CotswoldRed said: Not interested in your private fight, but thought I'd ask where in past history a manager has done this badly and he's been given time and it has been proven to be the right decision? Benni and iamsober are Johnson family. If you notice they signed up in the past few months and all they post is "LJ is the right man for the job" and "he needs more time". So obvious. What I find quite sad is that Johnson Senior could have been a legend here but gave his lad a playing career and so inadvertently sacrificed his managerial one. Watch them come back at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, Benni said: Sir Alex Did he lose eight on the spin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benni Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, CotswoldRed said: That's the default response, but he didn't have a run anything like as bad. And one example in 100 years doesn't really substantiate the idea, does it? And a perfect answer too. Another one is Peter Reid at Sunderland and of course there are more. Your argument here is ridiculous, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, NickJ said: Benni and iamsober are Johnson family. If you notice they signed up in the past few months and all they post is "LJ is the right man for the job" and "he needs more time". So obvious. What I find quite sad is that Johnson Senior could have been a legend here but gave his lad a playing career and so inadvertently sacrificed his managerial one. Watch them come back at that. It seems funny how these weird buggers have surfaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, NickJ said: Benni and iamsober are Johnson family. If you notice they signed up in the past few months and all they post is "LJ is the right man for the job" and "he needs more time". So obvious. What I find quite sad is that Johnson Senior could have been a legend here but gave his lad a playing career and so inadvertently sacrificed his managerial one. Watch them come back at that. Carry On Cabby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Griffin said: Because we don't have to worry about breaking losing streak records anymore. We could always have a go at beating the football league record, I don't know what it is, but I'm sure we could manage it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benni Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: Did he lose eight on the spin? We are talking about bad runs, not only "8 on the spin". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Benni said: And a perfect answer too. Another one is Peter Reid at Sunderland and of course there are more. Your argument here is ridiculous, sorry. Maybe there are examples. But the only reasoning I can see you putting forward is (I paraphrase) "it's gonna get better so it would be silly to change". That's managing with your heart, not your head. Its now 7 points in 48. I would have done better. I'm sure of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 His win percentage with the club 42.22% is actually pretty good and 12th highest in the league (0.7% higher and it would be 8th best in the league). We have been incredibly unlucky in multiple games and I can think of a least 4 in this bad run we would have won if we had better decisions from the officials. We are not in our position through a lack of chances created (highest in the country last time I checked!) Because he is a young manager who needs backing if we're to get the best out of him. He showed in the way he turned things around last season what he can do. He did the same in the opening games of the season, many of which we picked up points in because of his substitutions and tactical changes. Because until this run, he was considered by many to be one of the most promising English managers around. Because who do you think is we would be able to get as a replacement? Who would come to the club right now and make everything so much better? And actually showing we are a club that gives are managers a chance makes it easier to attract managers in the future. Because changing manager during a transfer window would make it harder to get players. Because actually most of us agree the signings we have made have been good. You can give credit to others for that too, but part of or recruitment is based on the good working relationship he has with our recruitment team. And from what we've heard we quite probably would not have signed Tammy without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Benni said: We are talking about bad runs, not only "8 on the spin". **** me....do you want to keep digging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benni Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, NickJ said: Benni and iamsober are Johnson family. If you notice they signed up in the past few months and all they post is "LJ is the right man for the job" and "he needs more time". So obvious. What I find quite sad is that Johnson Senior could have been a legend here but gave his lad a playing career and so inadvertently sacrificed his managerial one. Watch them come back at that. Your pathetic agenda against the Johnsons is so obvious. You should stop it and start supporting the club - sounds like a good idea, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, RichardEdd said: His win percentage with the club 42.22% is actually pretty good and 12th highest in the league (0.7% higher and it would be 8th best in the league). We have been incredibly unlucky in multiple games and I can think of a least 4 in this bad run we would have won if we had better decisions from the officials. We are not in our position through a lack of chances created (highest in the country last time I checked!) Because he is a young manager who needs backing if we're to get the best out of him. He showed in the way he turned things around last season what he can do. He did the same in the opening games of the season, many of which we picked up points in because of his substitutions and tactical changes. Because until this run, he was considered by many to be one of the most promising English managers around. Because who do you think is we would be able to get as a replacement? Who would come to the club right now and make everything so much better? And actually showing we are a club that gives are managers a chance makes it easier to attract managers in the future. Because changing manager during a transfer window would make it harder to get players. Because actually most of us agree the signings we have made have been good. You can give credit to others for that too, but part of or recruitment is based on the good working relationship he has with our recruitment team. And from what we've heard we quite probably would not have signed Tammy without him. WTF has him being "a young manager" got to do with it? Being young does not imbue him with mystical powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: Carry On Cabby? Quite and add RichardEdd with the pretend "I support Bristol City" logo by his Username. No very bright are they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, RichardEdd said: His win percentage with the club 42.22% is actually pretty good and 12th highest in the league (0.7% higher and it would be 8th best in the league). We have been incredibly unlucky in multiple games and I can think of a least 4 in this bad run we would have won if we had better decisions from the officials. We are not in our position through a lack of chances created (highest in the country last time I checked!) Because he is a young manager who needs backing if we're to get the best out of him. He showed in the way he turned things around last season what he can do. He did the same in the opening games of the season, many of which we picked up points in because of his substitutions and tactical changes. Because until this run, he was considered by many to be one of the most promising English managers around. Because who do you think is we would be able to get as a replacement? Who would come to the club right now and make everything so much better? And actually showing we are a club that gives are managers a chance makes it easier to attract managers in the future. Because changing manager during a transfer window would make it harder to get players. Because actually most of us agree the signings we have made have been good. You can give credit to others for that too, but part of or recruitment is based on the good working relationship he has with our recruitment team. And from what we've heard we quite probably would not have signed Tammy without him. Personally, I think we've played crap for most of the season, even when winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Benni said: Your pathetic agenda against the Johnsons is so obvious. You should stop it and start supporting the club - sounds like a good idea, right? Busted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: WTF has him being "a young manager" got to do with it? Being young does not imbue him with mystical powers. Because if you appoint a young less proven manager you do it for the same reason you do with a player. Because you are going to give them a chance to develop. Because you believe they are going to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, RichardEdd said: His win percentage with the club 42.22% is actually pretty good and 12th highest in the league (0.7% higher and it would be 8th best in the league). We have been incredibly unlucky in multiple games and I can think of a least 4 in this bad run we would have won if we had better decisions from the officials. We are not in our position through a lack of chances created (highest in the country last time I checked!) Because he is a young manager who needs backing if we're to get the best out of him. He showed in the way he turned things around last season what he can do. He did the same in the opening games of the season, many of which we picked up points in because of his substitutions and tactical changes. Because until this run, he was considered by many to be one of the most promising English managers around. Because who do you think is we would be able to get as a replacement? Who would come to the club right now and make everything so much better? And actually showing we are a club that gives are managers a chance makes it easier to attract managers in the future. Because changing manager during a transfer window would make it harder to get players. Because actually most of us agree the signings we have made have been good. You can give credit to others for that too, but part of or recruitment is based on the good working relationship he has with our recruitment team. And from what we've heard we quite probably would not have signed Tammy without him. Really, like who for instance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, RichardEdd said: Because if you appoint a young less proven manager you do it for the same reason you do with a player. Because you are going to give them a chance to develop. Because you believe they are going to improve. Let them develop elsewhere. I don't want my club being some laboratory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, Nogbad the Bad said: Really, like who for instance? In fairness, most pundits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kala Taro Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Just now, Nogbad the Bad said: Really, like who for instance? His mum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 hours ago, CotswoldRed said: Not entirely true. We are a smallish club. Fact. On League points over the last 50 years we are in the top 10 clubs in the country. Beats fighting relegation EVERY season. I remember reading that fact a few years ago. Fifth i seem to remember, just behind the top four. Completely baffling considering we are perenially abject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benni Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: Maybe there are examples. But the only reasoning I can see you putting forward is (I paraphrase) "it's gonna get better so it would be silly to change". That's managing with your heart, not your head. Its now 7 points in 48. I would have done better. I'm sure of it. An answer on the same wavelengt as MMH and NJ's. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockleazeRed Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 57 minutes ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: Seriously.....are you on drugs? Bit unfair considering he's taken the time to write an articulate response to the original question. Regardless if you agree or disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, RichardEdd said: His win percentage with the club 42.22% is actually pretty good and 12th highest in the league (0.7% higher and it would be 8th best in the league). We have been incredibly unlucky in multiple games and I can think of a least 4 in this bad run we would have won if we had better decisions from the officials. We are not in our position through a lack of chances created (highest in the country last time I checked!) Because he is a young manager who needs backing if we're to get the best out of him. He showed in the way he turned things around last season what he can do. He did the same in the opening games of the season, many of which we picked up points in because of his substitutions and tactical changes. Because until this run, he was considered by many to be one of the most promising English managers around. Because who do you think is we would be able to get as a replacement? Who would come to the club right now and make everything so much better? And actually showing we are a club that gives are managers a chance makes it easier to attract managers in the future. Because changing manager during a transfer window would make it harder to get players. Because actually most of us agree the signings we have made have been good. You can give credit to others for that too, but part of or recruitment is based on the good working relationship he has with our recruitment team. And from what we've heard we quite probably would not have signed Tammy without him. 10 minutes ago, Benni said: We are talking about bad runs, not only "8 on the spin". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: Really, like who for instance? An example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Benni said: An answer on the same wavelengt as MMH and NJ's. Well done. The squirrel, who lives over the road would probably equal it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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