BigAl&Toby Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 I guess it depends on how long you've followed The City I guess but I'd genuinely be interested in knowing. Why ask? Well part of me can't help thinking that whilst results of late have been dreadful who, with the desired experience and credentials (whatever they might be), would come here if LJ is relieved of his duties. We've had several years of little if any real success. Alongside that we've had Christ knows how many managers or head coaches. What if LJ is sacked and whoever replaces him doesn't bring the success we are all so desperate for? Replace them too? How about a longer term view? Some consistency - even if it means another roller coaster end to the season, or even relegation? Genuine question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Cotts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Super said: Cotts. Exactly. The last one. Next question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, BigAlToby&Liam said: I guess it depends on how long you've followed The City I guess but I'd genuinely be interested in knowing. Why ask? Well part of me can't help thinking that whilst results of late have been dreadful who, with the desired experience and credentials (whatever they might be), would come here if LJ is relieved of his duties. We've had several years of little if any real success. Alongside that we've had Christ knows how many managers or head coaches. What if LJ is sacked and whoever replaces him doesn't bring the success we are all so desperate for? Replace them too? How about a longer term view? Some consistency - even if it means another roller coaster end to the season, or even relegation? Genuine question! cotts, before that johnson and before that Ward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Gary Johnson and Cotterill in recent years isn't it really. Regardless of the football in 2007/08 and the many fortunate 1-0 wins Gary Johnson remains the only manager really in decades that has actually got us competing and pullung up tree's in the second tier. Cotts did well obviously but i just cant jump and shout over a third tier promotion too much to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Harry Thickitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 LJ at the start of the season was pretty successful !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, Spoons said: LJ at the start of the season was pretty successful !! LJ last season was pretty successful. He took over with us bottom of the league and in horrible form and kept us up with a couple of weeks to spare and some pretty satisfying results (Bolton, Huddersfield) along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAGa Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Seriously? Obviously Cotterill. Should have been backed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 A leading question your honour. Cotts got our pride back. GJ gave us a dream.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjam!n Ultra Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Cotts?! Our one before LJ. Won the double iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj77 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Successful is winning one of the major cups or the championship. We haven't had one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted January 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 So then. So far it's SC. If the definition of success is promotion to the Championship and JPT. We've had a few managers over recent years. Why not stick with LJ and have a slightly longer term view? Let's face it. Changing them every few years hasn't really worked has it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 10 minutes ago, jj77 said: Successful is winning one of the major cups or the championship. We haven't had one. Tell that to Borehamwood FC. Success is relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Alan Dicks. He got us to the top division. No-one else has achieved that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Cotterill did very well with transfers, even near the end (Kodjia) and won us the league and the JPT, In recent years i would have to say Cotts. Best manager of all time ? Well i am in my early thirties so my answer will differ from some of you but I cannot forget that Gary Johnson got us promotion and then an awesome playoff campaign putting us 90 mins away from the premiership, before that I did enjoy (parts) of the Danny Wilson era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 23 minutes ago, shelts said: A leading question your honour. Cotts got our pride back. GJ gave us a dream.... And Alan Dicks took us to the top league....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjam!n Ultra Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 10 minutes ago, BigAlToby&Liam said: So then. So far it's SC. If the definition of success is promotion to the Championship and JPT. We've had a few managers over recent years. Why not stick with LJ and have a slightly longer term view? Let's face it. Changing them every few years hasn't really worked has it? What is the long term view though? Do we have a manager fit for a promotion race in L1 even? His highest finish is 11th down there. His previous team won promotion after he left them and we're told not at all because of him. He did go on an 8 match losing streak down there though. Common themes and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Cotts did a good short term job but only longer term success was GJ and before him Alan Dicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Virtually all footballing careers end in failure. Even Dicksy left us with a complete 'mare. There are very few exceptions: SAF perhaps, but often those leave when the legacy starts to look tarnished. It's why anyone posting "I know this appointment is going to be a disaster" at the start of a manager's reign can wipe the smug "I told you so" grin off their face. You have three categories: Successful/leaves you in the lurch for a bigger club [we haven't had one of those in a while!] Successful at first, but then goes wrong [like LJ] Disaster from start to finish [Pulis/SOD] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 It depends what you class as success? Long term or short term. Getting you promotion from the third division one season, and then back into the relegation zone the next apparently for some makes you the most successful. Taking 7 years to get you into Div 1 is success for others. I think you have to take every circumstance into consideration, and for me Terry Cooper has been our most successful manager. As RR said above...Alan Dicks left us in a right mess, as did SC. It's not looking much better with results right now. Maybe we'll soon be seeing another lamb to the slaughter soon as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poshtottie Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Alan Dicks promotion to top flight 1976! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Long term success I guess you mean because otherwise it is simple - Cott's, our last one. How hard is it really to just be a mediocre championship club, with ok players, and a ok manager winning / losing / drawing and just kinda having some little droplets of success for a few seasons ? Why do we always just **** it up everytime... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Well it depends on how you define success. Promotion and Football League trophy double from SC was a success imo. But then you can introduce other variables, like the entertainment value of the football, the calibre of player in the team under that manager. For me, no manager has recreated the style of football and entertainment value that Danny Wilson was able to. I used to love watching his city teams. Yet, we often only grabbed a 1-0 win, had a less than excellent keeper (Phillips), a drinking culture at the club and epicly ballsed up promotion, despite being top of the league at one stage! You could also argue that the caliber of player in the current team is better than ever, so the managerial recruitment has been very successful. But the managerial results have been woeful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 35 minutes ago, Poshtottie said: Alan Dicks promotion to top flight 1976! I couldn't ever forget AD ....I was just answering the post title thread mind!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 14 minutes ago, Fiale said: Long term success I guess you mean because otherwise it is simple - Cott's, our last one. How hard is it really to just be a mediocre championship club, with ok players, and a ok manager winning / losing / drawing and just kinda having some little droplets of success for a few seasons ? Why do we always just **** it up everytime... We had that for most of GJ's tenure and indeed I would say the bulk of his tenure was above mediocre. @spudski was before my time but based on the mess we were in I certainly think there's a strong case for Cooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Anyone willing to nominate Lee Johnson? It appears he's got two sponsors so far - Messrs Lansdown and Ashton. I nominate Alan Dicks. However, It depends on what someone considers to be the hallmark of success. For me it was going up and playing in the top tier. Imagine what Dicks would have acheived if he had (in equivalent terms) the same amount of money that Johnson has spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Robbored said: Alan Dicks. He got us to the top division. No-one else has achieved that. Harry Thickitt did, 70 years before Dicks. Second division champions in 1905/06, with a record 14 consecutive League wins that still stands to this day. In the following campaign City finished second in the First Division, 3 points adrift of Newcastle United. And in 1908/09 City were FA Cup finalists at the old Crystal Palace. So Harry remains City's most successful ever boss. He was also a decent player winning international caps for England as well as FA Cup and League Championship winner's medals with Sheffield United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 22 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: So Harry remains City's most successful ever boss. He was also a decent player winning international caps for England as well as FA Cup and League Championship winner's medals with Sheffield United. Harry Thickett was before my time. 50+ years before...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 35 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said: Anyone willing to nominate Lee Johnson? It appears he's got two sponsors so far - Messrs Lansdown and Ashton. I nominate Alan Dicks. However, It depends on what someone considers to be the hallmark of success. For me it was going up and playing in the top tier. Imagine what Dicks would have acheived if he had (in equivalent terms) the same amount of money that Johnson has spent. When we were in the old First Division we paid some of the highest wages in England. Source: two former players from that time who I know. There is a reason we went bust so soon afterwards.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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