Former Pirate Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Hello guys and gals, it's been a while. I hope you've all had a great start to the new year, and that you all had a great Christmas. So... Matty Taylor. I'm not going to pretend I'm not disappointed that it's you of all people Taylor has joined, but unlike some of our more, shall we say 'passionate' fans, I can offer a slightly more balanced view. Firstly, the club are to blame here, for allowing a paltry release clause of the rumoured £300k in his new contract, given that although he was a free agent, he will no doubt have enjoyed a significant pay rise in the last six months. I don't necessarily blame Matty too much, ultimately as a lower league footballer it's more of a job than a passion, albeit a great job, so if he's taking his wages from say £2k a week to, what, £10k? Even £8k a week then I can not blame him. At those levels, the increase in wage makes a much bigger difference than Van Persie earning another £30k a week when he is already on £50k. Fair f*cks to him. Ad a player, I've always had a mixed view personally, he scores goals of course, and I'm sure he will for you if you have a decent amount of creativity in the side (he doesn't score many solo goals). He's frustrating at times as he has been known to waste a lot of chances, particularly one-on-one chances, but will then smash one in from 20 yards. A bit of an enigma. He's a goalscorer though, his stats don't lie, and that's why you've bought him, clearly. Whether he converts 20% or 100% of chances, he will run his balls off for you (that's another subject - keep a close eye on any silverware he may win with you!). No sour grapes, of course I'd rather he was in our side than not! He's a decent player who, regardless of the team, deserves a crack at the Championship. Anyway, I'm off for a quick pray that we re-sign Rickie Lambert by 11pm...!! Best wishes all. FP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Fair do's, mate, thanks for the heads-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Fair play Fordingbridge Not sure I or too many of us would be so gracious if it was the other way round Respect fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Good to hear from you @Fordingbridge Pirate you were always one of the exceptions as a poster on this board. Thank you for your views on the guy, not sure how he will fit in or things will have to change for him to do so, or whether initially he will be "spelling" Tammy, but he has certainly stopped the incessant chat about the Manager at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 My BRFC "mates" say he's "a lazy shit". Seem bitter to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Thanks for appra FP. Tbh I haven't taken much notice of the gas with you being in a lower league but obviously hear Taylor's name on the local tv. Lets hope he can make the step up against more organised defences and better defenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollydog Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Thanks for what sounds like a sensible assessment, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Fair play FP nice to hear from a blue about MT without wishing him a serious injury etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Like that, huge respect for ya posting that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnclosureSurge Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 11 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Good to hear from you @Fordingbridge Pirate you were always one of the exceptions as a poster on this board. Thank you for your views on the guy, not sure how he will fit in or things will have to change for him to do so, or whether initially he will be "spelling" Tammy, but he has certainly stopped the incessant chat about the Manager at least. I'd imagine that in August 2017 we'll start with Djuric and Taylor up front. Till then, an impact sub, or maybe start occasionally alongside Tammy giving Djuric a rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I think it's great that after all these years, we are finally adopting the Bristol Rovers recruitment policy. Take a lower league player with non league experience for pennies and seeing if we can turn him in to a player who can score goals and then sell him on at a huge profit. Thanks for signing Matty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 As always Fordingbridge Pirate shows some class. Fair play to you mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 With regards to the 300K, your board did not have much of a choice, Taylor was in the driving seat to sign a new contract or not, so it would have been down to him and advisers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Brilliant you can come on here and say all that mate. Rovers do have a knack of finding great strikers and bringing them on. We could do with some of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 11 minutes ago, southvillekiddy said: Brilliant you can come on here and say all that mate. Rovers do have a knack of finding great strikers and bringing them on. We could do with some of that. You just know that Taylor will be the first one who suddenly stops scoring & who's career hits the rails !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former Pirate Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 Ah thanks guys, nice to hear from you all again. Yeah we have historically done OK with non-league strikers, hopefully we pull another one out of the bag this evening with the chap from Dover that DC seems keen on. On a side note, what's the feeling toward Fact Hunt Jnr now? Seemed for all the world as if he'd never make deadline day!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boss hogg Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Fordingbridge Pirate said: Hello guys and gals, it's been a while. I hope you've all had a great start to the new year, and that you all had a great Christmas. So... Matty Taylor. I'm not going to pretend I'm not disappointed that it's you of all people Taylor has joined, but unlike some of our more, shall we say 'passionate' fans, I can offer a slightly more balanced view. Firstly, the club are to blame here, for allowing a paltry release clause of the rumoured £300k in his new contract, given that although he was a free agent, he will no doubt have enjoyed a significant pay rise in the last six months. I don't necessarily blame Matty too much, ultimately as a lower league footballer it's more of a job than a passion, albeit a great job, so if he's taking his wages from say £2k a week to, what, £10k? Even £8k a week then I can not blame him. At those levels, the increase in wage makes a much bigger difference than Van Persie earning another £30k a week when he is already on £50k. Fair f*cks to him. Ad a player, I've always had a mixed view personally, he scores goals of course, and I'm sure he will for you if you have a decent amount of creativity in the side (he doesn't score many solo goals). He's frustrating at times as he has been known to waste a lot of chances, particularly one-on-one chances, but will then smash one in from 20 yards. A bit of an enigma. He's a goalscorer though, his stats don't lie, and that's why you've bought him, clearly. Whether he converts 20% or 100% of chances, he will run his balls off for you (that's another subject - keep a close eye on any silverware he may win with you!). No sour grapes, of course I'd rather he was in our side than not! He's a decent player who, regardless of the team, deserves a crack at the Championship. Anyway, I'm off for a quick pray that we re-sign Rickie Lambert by 11pm...!! Best wishes all. FP ffs your nearly an ok gashead . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former Pirate Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, boss hogg said: ffs your nearly an ok gashead . Ah thanks pal, that's almost a proposal down your way, isn't it? Gimme six, brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 11 minutes ago, Fordingbridge Pirate said: Ah thanks guys, nice to hear from you all again. Yeah we have historically done OK with non-league strikers, hopefully we pull another one out of the bag this evening with the chap from Dover that DC seems keen on. On a side note, what's the feeling toward Fact Hunt Jnr now? Seemed for all the world as if he'd never make deadline day!! We'll let you know at ten to ten tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 26 minutes ago, Fordingbridge Pirate said: Ah thanks pal, that's almost a proposal down your way, isn't it? Gimme six, brother. Funniest post I've read in donkeys !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Seen all his Gas goals on the 'tube,, he's bright in the box and takes his chances, sort of like a better Agard, he will score well for the City, trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 19 minutes ago, Fordingbridge Pirate said: Ah thanks guys, nice to hear from you all again. Yeah we have historically done OK with non-league strikers, hopefully we pull another one out of the bag this evening with the chap from Dover that DC seems keen on. On a side note, what's the feeling toward Fact Hunt Jnr now? Seemed for all the world as if he'd never make deadline day!! Deadline Day - I thought he'd never make Christmas! Think he's very lucky that SL has invested in him as part of the future for the club. It's brave ( or naively foolish) to stick with a manager given the sort of run we are on ( not sure run is the right word to describe it - slump or plummet might be more apt) but he does seem to be backing him given the new signings we've made. Having said all that, unless we get wins and quickly I think the pressure from restless fans will be to much for Sl to resist making a change. Hope LJ can turn it around, but sadly, I'm not holding my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 You can't come on here making sense and saying your a gas head, it's one or the other! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Was going to put the usual polite Double Post but as the swear filters not working Fuck Up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray White Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Summed his style up in the same way as a gashed at work today. I'm encouraged by what you're saying about his non stop running which is definitely needed. I am a bit concerned though about where the assists are going to come from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Peg Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 39 minutes ago, Fordingbridge Pirate said: Ah thanks guys, nice to hear from you all again. Yeah we have historically done OK with non-league strikers, hopefully we pull another one out of the bag this evening with the chap from Dover that DC seems keen on. On a side note, what's the feeling toward Fact Hunt Jnr now? Seemed for all the world as if he'd never make deadline day!! Tbf, there are a few gasheads on here that aren't tools. @In the Net @bert tann as well as yourself Mr Pirate. Thanks for showing your acquaintances how they will be treated on OTIB if they didn't start with the stupidity. Only wish some of us can have healthy debate/friendly banter over on gaschat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former Pirate Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 22 minutes ago, downendcity said: Deadline Day - I thought he'd never make Christmas! Think he's very lucky that SL has invested in him as part of the future for the club. It's brave ( or naively foolish) to stick with a manager given the sort of run we are on ( not sure run is the right word to describe it - slump or plummet might be more apt) but he does seem to be backing him given the new signings we've made. Having said all that, unless we get wins and quickly I think the pressure from restless fans will be to much for Sl to resist making a change. Hope LJ can turn it around, but sadly, I'm not holding my breath. At least he's planning for the future by signing a proven League One goalscorer. (today of all days you can let me have that one!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 4 hours ago, 1bristolcity said: Seen all his Gas goals on the 'tube,, he's bright in the box and takes his chances, sort of like a better Agard, he will score well for the City, trust me. Problem with highlights is they do not show all the ones any player misses! I think for what it is worth right now he is kind of on a par with Agard. No shame in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Net Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 An accurate summary from FB. You'll need to be patient with Mr T, as he does miss a fair few chances and will need to adjust to the faster pace of the Championship. Giving him a few pointers regarding the offside rule might be useful - or the linesmen could end up with RSI. The reality is that for 99% of footballers these days, it is a job, and if Joe Bloggs Utd down the road offer more money, then they're off. It is a short career, he's almost 27, so probably his last chance to go for the big pay packet. Securing a better future for his family is a priority for him, the same as the rest of us. I guess the opportunity to ply his trade in a higher league for three months may have influenced his decision too! He's not from Bristol, and he's never experienced the heat and passion of a Bristol derby, but, for me, he's lost his "legend" status in our history by moving across town. He was part of our rise from the ashes, and for that I thank him, and I am not one of those who could wish any ill will upon a player. DC obviously saw something in him, and stuck with him when it looked like he couldn't hit a barn door - 'tis going to be a hard pill to swallow if you lot end up reaping the benefits of this! Was this signing to deflect the heat from LJ? Did SL see it as a legitimate way of stopping the progress of the noisy neighbours, who are creeping closer, and could end up being a big embarrasment to him, given the money he's invested? Will Mr Taylor end up being nothing but a glorified bench warmer? Interesting times ahead on both sides of the river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 56 minutes ago, In the Net said: Did SL see it as a legitimate way of stopping the progress of the noisy neighbours, who are creeping closer, and could end up being a big embarrasment to him, given the money he's invested? Will Mr Taylor end up being nothing but a glorified bench warmer? Interesting times ahead on both sides of the river. Don't flatter yourselves sweet cheeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 3 hours ago, In the Net said: Did SL see it as a legitimate way of stopping the progress of the noisy neighbours, who are creeping closer, and could end up being a big embarrasment to him, given the money he's invested? Ridiculously paranoid, whether that's your personal view or you're just repeating the theory spouted by Gasheads all over social media? I dunno....I think you've got more brains than that 'In the Net'. The fact is that Taylor has already proved he can score goals in league 1, he's obviously a good striker (wasn't he the leagues highest scorer last season?). He may or may not be good enough for the Championship, we'll find that out over the next couple of months. We are in a relegation battle and signing a goalscorer for peanuts seems like a decent, low risk bit of business from BCFC and a massive fuck up from BRFC who allowed this situation in the first place by agreeing to the release clause (however low it was). Also, whilst I don't really want to think about it, IF the worst was to happen and we end up relegated, Id rather have Taylor scoring goals for us than against us. Instead of your fellow Gas concerning themselves with our owners and making up silly theories about SL panicking because we might end up in the same division, they should be asking questions of your own owners. 'Evolution not Revolution' seems to be code for 'we don't want to spend any real money'. The way I see it, SL has his sights set firmly on progression of BCFC and he's willing to put his money where his mouth is. I think it's deluded beyond belief to think for one second that we signed Taylor JUST to spite the Gas...no matter how amusing we as fans have found it. I'm afraid our owners have got much bigger fish to fry. No offence to you ITN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Net Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 3 hours ago, In the Net said: Was this signing to deflect the heat from LJ? Did SL see it as a legitimate way of stopping the progress of the noisy neighbours, who are creeping closer, and could end up being a big embarrasment to him, given the money he's invested? Will Mr Taylor end up being nothing but a glorified bench warmer? That was supposed to be a bit tongue in cheek - a sort of "tune in next week to see what happens" ending to my post, given the drama that played out yesterday afternoon. It's been a stressful 24 hours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiled Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 If Matty Taylor had been available for £300k from any other L1 club and scored 19 goals before the end of January, we would have been screaming for City to sign him. This looks like shrewd business for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grove park city Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 While your on here In the net. What the hell is going on with Rovers ground building ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I think the thing to remember above the Rovers connections, is that he is a proven goalscorer at every level so far. If it turns out that he isn't up to Championship standard, at the price we've paid for him, you could easily offload him to a league 1 team for the same price if not more. It's a no brainer. That's providing we don't go down of course.... For what it's worth, I think he will do very well at this level, and I don't think we'll go down. We still need fullbacks, at least on the right side, and maybe an upgrade on Flint (tin hat on). With Cotterill on board along with Taylor I think we have the markings of a team that can push up the table with a few wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alcapone Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 lets not get all nicey nicey we have signed their best player for pocket change end of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I'd like us to sign this Miller chap from Dover. Cut out the middle man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DancinDannyD Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 22 hours ago, Septic Peg said: Tbf, there are a few gasheads on here that aren't tools. @In the Net @bert tann as well as yourself Mr Pirate. Thanks for showing your acquaintances how they will be treated on OTIB if they didn't start with the stupidity. Only wish some of us can have healthy debate/friendly banter over on gaschat. When will you all learn that @bert tann is not Gas! C'mon, purrlease!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, DancinDannyD said: When will you all learn that @bert tann is not Gas! C'mon, purrlease!! And nor is Mr Taylor anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: And nor is Mr Taylor anymore. That made I larf,and calls for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I must ask FP/ ITN or any other of our 'visitors' (good post by the way FP), would MT have even signed the contract last summer without the 'release clause' being that figure? I wonder if he was hankering for a move but didn't want to be priced out of one while protecting your club so that you would, at least, get something? I appreciate it's us, which rankles, but he seems to have done little wrong apart from moving across the city. If it was any other Championship club etc etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert tann Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 9 minutes ago, DancinDannyD said: When will you all learn that @bert tann is not Gas! C'mon, purrlease!! I am but I shall remain tight lipped on the Matt Taylor transfer saga. ( unlike the Rovers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, bert tann said: I am but I shall remain tight lipped on the Matt Taylor transfer saga. ( unlike the Rovers) It's for the best Bert,you might get death threats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 9 minutes ago, bert tann said: I am but I shall remain tight lipped on the Matt Taylor transfer saga. ( unlike the Rovers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DancinDannyD Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, NOTBLUE said: It's for the best Bert,you might get death threats. Sadly that's true. And regretfully all clubs have some total melts that take things too far. Not unlike Steve Phillips who had death threats and bricks through windows when he joined the Gas, and to this day he hasn't gone out for a drink again in the City Centre for fear of reprisals (apparently he's on Points West later too to talk about it). So it's very sad and a terribly sorry state of affairs when football fans go to such extremes over someone just doing their job but this isn't an area where City fans can claim the moral high ground I'm afraid, all clubs City included have their fair share of morons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Fair point,but I wasn't, and very rarely am serious,lifes too short,it was Bert after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, DancinDannyD said: Sadly that's true. And regretfully all clubs have some total melts that take things too far. Not unlike Steve Phillips who had death threats and bricks through windows when he joined the Gas, and to this day he hasn't gone out for a drink again in the City Centre for fear of reprisals (apparently he's on Points West later too to talk about it). So it's very sad and a terribly sorry state of affairs when football fans go to such extremes over someone just doing their job but this isn't an area where City fans can claim the moral high ground I'm afraid, all clubs City included have their fair share of morons! A reasonable point DDD, though I have to say Flapper's not missing anything by giving the city centre boozers a wide berth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 If someone has dropped his address on social media that is well out of line, but pretty much the sort of hysterical overreaction I expected. Hope the lad takes it as motivation to take his chance at this level; looking forward to see what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 20 minutes ago, DancinDannyD said: Sadly that's true. And regretfully all clubs have some total melts that take things too far. Not unlike Steve Phillips who had death threats and bricks through windows when he joined the Gas, and to this day he hasn't gone out for a drink again in the City Centre for fear of reprisals (apparently he's on Points West later too to talk about it). So it's very sad and a terribly sorry state of affairs when football fans go to such extremes over someone just doing their job but this isn't an area where City fans can claim the moral high ground I'm afraid, all clubs City included have their fair share of morons! The ridiculous thing is Phillips moved on because we weren't offering him first team football didn't he? I mean I can understand the anger - although it does not excuse violence, intimidation or threats of violence or intimidation - if a player playing regular football moves to his rivals because he perceives them a bigger club but I had no issue at all with Phillips joining Rovers and nor would I with any other player who was surplus to requirements... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I can tell you from experience that the bit about Phillips not having gone for a beer in town is an absolutely enormous lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im_over_ere Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Something that surprises me is that no other Championship club were willing to take a risk at a mere $300,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, Im_over_ere said: Something that surprises me is that no other Championship club were willing to take a risk at a mere $300,000. They were all in on the joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 11 minutes ago, Im_over_ere said: Something that surprises me is that no other Championship club were willing to take a risk at a mere $300,000. We dont definately know if it was 300k despite being put on several rumour sites. According to rovers hes on anywhere from 10k - 20k and he cost between 3 and 8 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 11 hours ago, In the Net said: An accurate summary from FB. You'll need to be patient with Mr T, as he does miss a fair few chances and will need to adjust to the faster pace of the Championship. Giving him a few pointers regarding the offside rule might be useful - or the linesmen could end up with RSI. The reality is that for 99% of footballers these days, it is a job, and if Joe Bloggs Utd down the road offer more money, then they're off. It is a short career, he's almost 27, so probably his last chance to go for the big pay packet. Securing a better future for his family is a priority for him, the same as the rest of us. I guess the opportunity to ply his trade in a higher league for three months may have influenced his decision too! He's not from Bristol, and he's never experienced the heat and passion of a Bristol derby, but, for me, he's lost his "legend" status in our history by moving across town. He was part of our rise from the ashes, and for that I thank him, and I am not one of those who could wish any ill will upon a player. DC obviously saw something in him, and stuck with him when it looked like he couldn't hit a barn door - 'tis going to be a hard pill to swallow if you lot end up reaping the benefits of this! Was this signing to deflect the heat from LJ? Did SL see it as a legitimate way of stopping the progress of the noisy neighbours, who are creeping closer, and could end up being a big embarrasment to him, given the money he's invested? Will Mr Taylor end up being nothing but a glorified bench warmer? Interesting times ahead on both sides of the river. Prior to this window we had two strikers on our books permanently, Wilbs who will soon be collecting his pension and Engvall who despite looking promising hasn't for some reason managed to get into the first team. So you may comfort yourselves with the thought that we've only signed him to halt your progress but the truth is we needed a striker and thats what we have got. Nothing more to it. You may be creeping closer position wise but trust me you are still a billion light years away from us off of the pitch. Matty Taylor looked like all his Christmas's and birthdays came at once when he was looking around AG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 52 minutes ago, 42nite said: They were all in on the joke! That really made me laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 12 hours ago, In the Net said: Was this signing to deflect the heat from LJ? Did SL see it as a legitimate way of stopping the progress of the noisy neighbours, who are creeping closer, and could end up being a big embarrasment to him, given the money he's invested? Will Mr Taylor end up being nothing but a glorified bench warmer? Interesting times ahead on both sides of the river. Seriously, have a word with yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, bearded_red said: I can tell you from experience that the bit about Phillips not having gone for a beer in town is an absolutely enormous lie. He said after 2006 to be fair. Part of the reason he was bombed out of City was because of his attitude and being a booze hound! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, DancinDannyD said: Sadly that's true. And regretfully all clubs have some total melts that take things too far. Not unlike Steve Phillips who had death threats and bricks through windows when he joined the Gas, and to this day he hasn't gone out for a drink again in the City Centre for fear of reprisals (apparently he's on Points West later too to talk about it). So it's very sad and a terribly sorry state of affairs when football fans go to such extremes over someone just doing their job but this isn't an area where City fans can claim the moral high ground I'm afraid, all clubs City included have their fair share of morons! That's more of a reflection on flapper and his inflated opinion of himself than our fans. No one gives a shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Net Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Kodjias Wrist said: We dont definately know if it was 300k despite being put on several rumour sites. According to rovers hes on anywhere from 10k - 20k and he cost between 3 and 8 million. Rumour was that Cardiff were interested - maybe they couldn't match the wages on offer at AG, or maybe he preferred not to up sticks and move? Not sure we'll ever know what money changed hands, this morning's favourite seems to be £300k and paying up the rest of his contract - still a no brainer to buy him anyway. A fair number of Rovers fans thought that he wouldn't be up to making the grade from Conference to League Two, and similarly to League One, but he did, and you could see his game improving as he progressed. No particular reason to assume that he can't do so again, so will be watching with interest (not literally watching, of course!) Some out of order stuff on social media yesterday, hopefully all talk and no action, as per usual for such morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Net Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 9 hours ago, grove park city said: While your on here In the net. What the hell is going on with Rovers ground building ? Mr Wael senior is due in the UK this week for final talks with UWE - apparently. Contracts will be exchanged and completed on the training facilities on either Thursday or Friday, this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 2 hours ago, In the Net said: Rumour was that Cardiff were interested - maybe they couldn't match the wages on offer at AG, or maybe he preferred not to up sticks and move? Not sure we'll ever know what money changed hands, this morning's favourite seems to be £300k and paying up the rest of his contract - still a no brainer to buy him anyway. A fair number of Rovers fans thought that he wouldn't be up to making the grade from Conference to League Two, and similarly to League One, but he did, and you could see his game improving as he progressed. No particular reason to assume that he can't do so again, so will be watching with interest (not literally watching, of course!) Some out of order stuff on social media yesterday, hopefully all talk and no action, as per usual for such morons. You don't really understand this contract malarkey do you? Not surprising considering you all thought the Sainsburys contract was water tight. But let me explain a few things for you. 300k we bid and due to the clause in his contract that bid had to be accepted. Not even a sell on fee would have been included as it didn't need to be as we met the release clause. Matty Taylor didn't ask to leave you. You were forced to sell him because of the clause in his contract. Unless there was a clause in his contract it's likely you will have had to pay him something, not sure what exactly but something will be paid to him from you, thus reducing the 300k you got from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 3 hours ago, Up The City! said: Prior to this window we had two strikers on our books permanently, Wilbs who will soon be collecting his pension and Engvall who despite looking promising hasn't for some reason managed to get into the first team. So you may comfort yourselves with the thought that we've only signed him to halt your progress but the truth is we needed a striker and thats what we have got. Nothing more to it. You may be creeping closer position wise but trust me you are still a billion light years away from us off of the pitch. Matty Taylor looked like all his Christmas's and birthdays came at once when he was looking around AG. Apparently he was a bit confused; he asked to see the tents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Aizoon said: Apparently he was a bit confused; he asked to see the tents. I see that that gazebo that we had in front of the LS has disappeared, im starting to think this was included in the release clause? When he signed a contract I think he said make it 300k, they said no let's make it 300k and a gazebo. Everyone then agreed to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 4 hours ago, bearded_red said: I can tell you from experience that the bit about Phillips not having gone for a beer in town is an absolutely enormous lie. Can I also add that whilst he was first choice keeper over the other side of the river I saw him shopping in Sainsbury's in Ashton Gate more than once. Hardly the part of town you would choose to spend your time in if this load of old nonsense was all true, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted February 1, 2017 Admin Share Posted February 1, 2017 2 hours ago, In the Net said: Rumour was that Cardiff were interested - maybe they couldn't match the wages on offer at AG, or maybe he preferred not to up sticks and move? Not sure we'll ever know what money changed hands, this morning's favourite seems to be £300k and paying up the rest of his contract - still a no brainer to buy him anyway. A fair number of Rovers fans thought that he wouldn't be up to making the grade from Conference to League Two, and similarly to League One, but he did, and you could see his game improving as he progressed. No particular reason to assume that he can't do so again, so will be watching with interest (not literally watching, of course!) Some out of order stuff on social media yesterday, hopefully all talk and no action, as per usual for such morons. Unfortunately not it would seem from some social media postings today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former Pirate Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 5 hours ago, 8menhadadream said: I must ask FP/ ITN or any other of our 'visitors' (good post by the way FP), would MT have even signed the contract last summer without the 'release clause' being that figure? I wonder if he was hankering for a move but didn't want to be priced out of one while protecting your club so that you would, at least, get something? I appreciate it's us, which rankles, but he seems to have done little wrong apart from moving across the city. If it was any other Championship club etc etc? Almost certainly not, I'd say. Although I do wonder why they allowed it to be so low, all things considered, and didn't even attempt to renegotiate in the last six months. It was obvious back then that he was only ever here this season for the cash, he shook hands on a contract with Oxford - 'his' club - and then signed for us. He was rumoured (how accurate I have no idea) to be trousering £6k a week this season. Not sure I believe it but he will definitely have been earning half of that at least. Agree with your last paragraph, had he signed for Derby or Birmingham, he'd be getting gratitude and good wishes. EDIT: oh and those 'fans' posting Matty's home address etc online are cockwombles. Utter plankton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Fordingbridge Pirate said: Almost certainly not, I'd say. Although I do wonder why they allowed it to be so low, all things considered, and didn't even attempt to renegotiate in the last six months. It was obvious back then that he was only ever here this season for the cash, he shook hands on a contract with Oxford - 'his' club - and then signed for us. He was rumoured (how accurate I have no idea) to be trousering £6k a week this season. Not sure I believe it but he will definitely have been earning half of that at least. Agree with your last paragraph, had he signed for Derby or Birmingham, he'd be getting gratitude and good wishes. To be fair he's getting plenty of that. But who'd have thought it would be from us?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 41 minutes ago, Fordingbridge Pirate said: Almost certainly not, I'd say. Although I do wonder why they allowed it to be so low, all things considered, and didn't even attempt to renegotiate in the last six months. It was obvious back then that he was only ever here this season for the cash, he shook hands on a contract with Oxford - 'his' club - and then signed for us. He was rumoured (how accurate I have no idea) to be trousering £6k a week this season. Not sure I believe it but he will definitely have been earning half of that at least. Agree with your last paragraph, had he signed for Derby or Birmingham, he'd be getting gratitude and good wishes. EDIT: oh and those 'fans' posting Matty's home address etc online are cockwombles. Utter plankton. Good reply FP. I wonder if your club had their hand forced by his agent? Spot on with the highlighted bit too. We all love our respective clubs but wouldn't even contemplate doing something like that. I really hope the stories of police vans outside his home and him being moved for his own safety are just stories but, I fear, they may have some substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Net Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Up The City! said: You don't really understand this contract malarkey do you? Not surprising considering you all thought the Sainsburys contract was water tight. But let me explain a few things for you. 300k we bid and due to the clause in his contract that bid had to be accepted. Not even a sell on fee would have been included as it didn't need to be as we met the release clause. Matty Taylor didn't ask to leave you. You were forced to sell him because of the clause in his contract. Unless there was a clause in his contract it's likely you will have had to pay him something, not sure what exactly but something will be paid to him from you, thus reducing the 300k you got from us. I totally get that once the magic figure has been reached, there is nothing the home club can do to prevent a sale. I've never heard of the home club having to pay the departing player money though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 13 minutes ago, In the Net said: I totally get that once the magic figure has been reached, there is nothing the home club can do to prevent a sale. I've never heard of the home club having to pay the departing player money though. If he hasn't asked for a transfer and there isn't some form of clause in the contract he signed, you are obliged to honour the terms of his contract with you, just as we are still paying Steve Cotterill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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