JHAGa Posted February 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Emperor Palpatine said: Really? SO he was taking us down but good on him for being petulant and rigid... by playing the same predictable formation, for failing to name a full bench and so on. 15% win record in this league with us, says it all really. Pembo with the same squad basically improved the results pretty much instantly He was taken us down because he was left with a squad of about 15 players. He didn't name benches because the only other options were youngsters and he would be chucking them in the deep end which isn't going to help them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 50 minutes ago, JHAGa said: Make amends for our initial mistake in not backing our double-winning manager and then hanging him out to dry when things went wrong after the board didn't back him. At least we have a squad he can utilise this time. He was taking us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 26 minutes ago, Emperor Palpatine said: Also disgraceful how SC showed petulance for this club by failing to change things to make some tired point to the board Which is in itself a petulant tired point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAGa Posted February 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Super said: He was taking us down. Because the board didn't back him. He'd have taken us up if they brought in Gray and Maguire like he wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 51 minutes ago, tts_city said: Put the bong down son, its addling your brain. Pass it my way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, JHAGa said: He was taken us down because he was left with a squad of about 15 players. He didn't name benches because the only other options were youngsters and he would be chucking them in the deep end which isn't going to help them. That's his problem, he got rid of not only Cunningham but Fredericks to. He had ample opportunity to sign players but he didn't, he refused to play some of the loanees for more than 10 minutes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, NickJ said: Which is in itself a petulant tired point. But the correct one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, JHAGa said: Because the board didn't back him. He'd have taken us up if they brought in Gray and Maguire like he wanted. The board did back him though, Gray was never coming here anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 59 minutes ago, JHAGa said: Make amends for our initial mistake in not backing our double-winning manager and then hanging him out to dry when things went wrong after the board didn't back him. At least we have a squad he can utilise this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JHAGa Posted February 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Emperor Palpatine said: The board did back him though, Gray was never coming here anyway... I very much disagree. The board have a history of not backing managers. Millen (Jones, McAuley), McInnes (Bikey/Cisse), O'Driscoll had a shoe-string budget and could only just about scrape money for a contract for Pack, Cotterill got us promoted with the money from Baldock and then we've tried to do a similar thing this season selling Kodjia at the last minute and it's come back to bite us. LJ didn't shake hands with SC after the Cardiff game. He's reaped the karma from that since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GodEmperor Palpatine Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, JHAGa said: I very much disagree. The board have a history of not backing managers. Millen (Jones, McAuley), McInnes (Bikey/Cisse), O'Driscoll had a shoe-string budget and could only just about scrape money for a contract for Pack, Cotterill got us promoted with the money from Baldock and then we've tried to do a similar thing this season selling Kodjia at the last minute and it's come back to bite us. LJ didn't shake hands with SC after the Cardiff game. He's reaped the karma from that since. Look at the facts with Del and even SOD they were cost cutting, City had an 18M wage budget and Del had basically halved it because it was spiralling out of control.. both those managers had to do some damage control which gave SC free licence to build a squad in L1 on a big budget. I don't care if LJ didn't shake his hand, could've been vice versa mind that SC refused... I don't know but I was under the impression they shook hands off Air anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoc Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 19 minutes ago, Emperor Palpatine said: Really? SO he was taking us down but good on him for being petulant and rigid... by playing the same predictable formation, for failing to name a full bench and so on. 15% win record in this league with us, says it all really. Pembo with the same squad basically improved the results pretty much instantly Wow, think you've just fallen on the answer. Not sure it was intentional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 34 minutes ago, Emperor Palpatine said: That's his problem, he got rid of not only Cunningham but Fredericks to. He had ample opportunity to sign players but he didn't, he refused to play some of the loanees for more than 10 minutes... Like Cox for example who was a tired has been who has barely played for anyone since his sojourn here, and so once again SC's judgment was proved right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Rocker Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 I'm done with this shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Just now, NickJ said: Like Cox for example who was a tired has been who has barely played for anyone since his sojourn here, and so once again SC's judgment was proved right. But his judgement was proved wrong regarding Cunningham... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 Cotterill is obviously a superior manager to Johnson, but I don't think he gets on terribly well with the board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 I know which one I'd rather see in charge right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Emperor Palpatine said: But his judgement was proved wrong regarding Cunningham... Cunningham's last season here, when he couldn't get in the starting 11 most games, was the season we won the league with 99 points by country mile, do you remember? Please explain how Cunningham could have improved on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 43 minutes ago, Emperor Palpatine said: But his judgement was proved wrong regarding Cunningham... Yes a bit like Ayling? Oh for either back now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Worked so well with Cotts last time we were in this division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 2 hours ago, JHAGa said: Good on him for doing it. He didn't put up with it,' most of our recent managers have. He was in a position too after winning us a double and getting us 99 points in one season, 18 months after taking over from us in the L1 relegation zone. He tried sticking with the resources that he'd been given because he had such a good relationship with the players, he didn't walk out after two games like Coppell. I don't think that I can possibly express how much I like this post. Except for the extra 'o' in 'to'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 3 hours ago, JHAGa said: Make amends for our initial mistake in not backing our double-winning manager and then hanging him out to dry when things went wrong after the board didn't back him. At least we have a squad he can utilise this time. Lets be fair he wouldn't do any worse then the complete joker we have in charge. I personally thought it was a joke how we handled last season and sacking him. But hey ho. The board are doing a swell job of seeing if they can get us back in league one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 If we hadnt have sacked Cotterill we would at least be in the Championship next season. Might have been in League One this, though. Fixated on 3-5-2, never played subs, made mistakes with Cunningham and others. But A double winning leader with unfinished business, Id have him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishponds_Red Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 6 hours ago, JHAGa said: Because the board didn't back him. He'd have taken us up if they brought in Gray and Maguire like he wanted. Gray and Magurie were never going to come. He had completely unrealistic targets and then acted like a child when he couldn't land them. SC won a pi$$ poor L1 with by far the best squad in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 6 hours ago, NickJ said: Cunningham's last season here, when he couldn't get in the starting 11 most games, was the season we won the league with 99 points by country mile, do you remember? Please explain how Cunningham could have improved on that. Yet he has gone on to be a solid defender with PNE... One of the worst defences in the Championship under Cotterill no? Care to explain how we were totally abject and why when Pembo took over, there was an upturn in fortunes with pretty much the same squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 8 hours ago, JHAGa said: Make amends for our initial mistake in not backing our double-winning manager and then hanging him out to dry when things went wrong after the board didn't back him. At least we have a squad he can utilise this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Fishponds_Red said: Gray and Magurie were never going to come. He had completely unrealistic targets and then acted like a child when he couldn't land them. SC won a pi$$ poor L1 with by far the best squad in the league. Just like Man United will romp the Premier League this season with the most expensive squad? It doesn't always work like that. Steve Cotterill instilled unity, passion and professionalism, to deliver one of the most exciting seasons ever witnessed at Ashton Gate. Yes, it looks like he threw his toys out of the pram the following season, but it's quite clear that the board only really started sanctioning all these signings once their, ahem, 'long-term project' was underway and their yes man was at the helm. What a farce that's turned out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 7 hours ago, Emperor Palpatine said: But his judgement was proved wrong regarding Cunningham... Yeh. LJ would never do such a thing with a decent championship full back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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