Miah Dennehy Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Just now, Cowshed said: Linfield's ground is situated just off Sandy Row. As in you are now entering Loyalist Sandy Row. It works both ways. Could Celtic guarantee given Celtic supporters history they would behave in a respectful manner? No is the answer. The consequences are not just a normal smack in the mouth ... Not worth it. Behave in a respectful manner? What, bow to the bonfires with effigies of catholics on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Just now, Miah Dennehy said: You wont find many instances of Celtic fans causing trouble, they have been pretty much welcomed all over Europe. So celtic fans behaved well in Manchester last season did they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Just now, Kodjias Wrist said: So celtic fans behaved well in Manchester last season did they? Well I was there and didn't see any trouble at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Just now, Miah Dennehy said: Well I was there and didn't see any trouble at all? It was all over the papers. Worse happened in Amsterdam several years back as well. Not point scoring but Celtic have their Idiot element and they are more than likely going to behave worse in a game like this. Good action taken by the piggies IMO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Just now, Kodjias Wrist said: It was all over the papers. Worse happened in Amsterdam several years back as well. Not point scoring but Celtic have their Idiot element and they are more than likely going to behave worse in a game like this. Good action taken by the piggies IMO! Was it? I missed that then. I was there for two nights and did not see one bit of trouble- what papers do you read? I saw the trouble in Amsterdam- did you see what sparked it off? If you think Celtic have a 'reputation' then you are very, very mistaken. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Just now, Miah Dennehy said: Behave in a respectful manner? What, bow to the bonfires with effigies of catholics on? Yes effigies of Catholics and the Tricolor are burned in that area. And much more. Would Celtic fans turn a blind eye to one of the most staunch Unionists streets in Belfast? The answer is almost certainly no. When Polish fans attacked locals the riot police were called in and the consequences were Poles living in Belfast having to be rehoused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Just now, Miah Dennehy said: Was it? I missed that then. I was there for two nights and did not see one bit of trouble- what papers do you read? I saw the trouble in Amsterdam- did you see what sparked it off? If you think Celtic have a 'reputation' then you are very, very mistaken. 3 Yes well again it comes down to the accuracy of the source doesn't it. As far as im aware the dutch stole some flags and Celtic started throwing objects. Not sure how accurate it is but thats no reason for the violence shown that night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Just now, Cowshed said: Yes effigies of Catholics and the Tricolor are burned in that area. And much more. Would Celtic fans turn a blind eye to one of the most staunch Unionists streets in Belfast? The answer is almost certainly no. When Polish fans attacked locals the riot police were called in and the consequences were Poles living in Belfast having to be rehoused. If you are seriously suggesting Celtic fans would try and start trouble in and around the Shankill then you are very much mistaken, they would run a real risk of being murdered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Kodjias Wrist said: Yes well again it comes down to the accuracy of the source doesn't it. As far as im aware the dutch stole some flags and Celtic started throwing objects. Not sure how accurate it is but thats no reason for the violence shown that night. It isn't accurate at all. I can't be bothered to post all the links, but the long and short of it is the club launched official complaints regarding the policing that night and were backed up by plenty of video evidence. I have no idea how old you are, but I am sure there are plenty of City fans on here who were at Walsall who need no reminding what trouble can be caused at games when they are policed by coppers who are 'up for it' I am still mystified as to the trouble in Manchester you are talking about, especially bearing in mind plenty of Celtic fans(including me) were sat in the home sections, with no hint of trouble at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Out of interest how are the old firm derbies these days? Regular trouble in and out of the two respective grounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said: If you are seriously suggesting Celtic fans would try and start trouble in and around the Shankill then you are very much mistaken, they would run a real risk of being murdered. Windsor Park is just off Sandy Row not the Shankhill ... Wearing a Celtic shirt, a word out of place, a drunken song in either ... Simply is not worth it over a bag of air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 26 minutes ago, havanatopia said: Out of interest how are the old firm derbies these days? Regular trouble in and out of the two respective grounds? The games themselves are so well policed you won't see any trouble. In town after is normally fine as well, you won't get in many city centre pubs wityh colours on, and at the first sign of any behaviour likely to cause a problem and the bouncers are straight on it. Away from town they do get problems, but I would be far more wary attending a Bristol derby than a Glasgow one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 19 minutes ago, Cowshed said: Windsor Park is just off Sandy Row not the Shankhill ... Wearing a Celtic shirt, a word out of place, a drunken song in either ... Simply is not worth it over a bag of air. Which is why I posted what I did, there is no way on earth any Celtic fan would be drinking or singing around the Shankill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said: Which is why I posted what I did, there is no way on earth any Celtic fan would be drinking or singing around the Shankill. Windsor Park/Sandy row is a short walk off the City centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Cowshed said: Windsor Park/Sandy row is a short walk off the City centre. Well it's walking distance, but not exactly a short walk is it. Celtic fans would have been far more likely to make the shorter walk from the Falls Road area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 41 minutes ago, Cowshed said: Windsor Park is just off Sandy Row not the Shankhill ... Wearing a Celtic shirt, a word out of place, a drunken song in either ... Simply is not worth it over a bag of air. Sorry I misread your post, yes I'm aware Windsor Park is not in the Shankill- it's closer to the Falls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Miah Dennehy said: It isn't accurate at all. I can't be bothered to post all the links, but the long and short of it is the club launched official complaints regarding the policing that night and were backed up by plenty of video evidence. I have no idea how old you are, but I am sure there are plenty of City fans on here who were at Walsall who need no reminding what trouble can be caused at games when they are policed by coppers who are 'up for it' I am still mystified as to the trouble in Manchester you are talking about, especially bearing in mind plenty of Celtic fans(including me) were sat in the home sections, with no hint of trouble at all! https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/12/06/fan-arrested-throwing-burger-police-horse-amid-ugly-scenes-man/amp/ http://quaysnews.net/index.php/2016/12/07/us-fireworks-set-off-in-a-busy-tram-cartridge-a-burger-thrown-at-a-police-horse-and-ira-chants-as-thousands-of-rowdy-celtic-fans-cause-mayhem-across-manchester/ https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/celtic-fans-who-damaged-pub-9412982.amp All three articles (and there are many more) tell us the story and tweets from witnesses there as well confirming disruption in the home end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 20 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/12/06/fan-arrested-throwing-burger-police-horse-amid-ugly-scenes-man/amp/ http://quaysnews.net/index.php/2016/12/07/us-fireworks-set-off-in-a-busy-tram-cartridge-a-burger-thrown-at-a-police-horse-and-ira-chants-as-thousands-of-rowdy-celtic-fans-cause-mayhem-across-manchester/ https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/celtic-fans-who-damaged-pub-9412982.amp All three articles (and there are many more) tell us the story and tweets from witnesses there as well confirming disruption in the home end. I'm sorry but I am sat here smiling. It seems a flare was set off (not clever I'll admit, but not right up there with hooligan related incidents), some fans were upset by some bad language (while others praised the away support in the home end.) and someone threw a burger at a police horse! And you seriously think that's even worthy of the newsprint? My only concern, is that I seem to follow two teams who target police horses! Maybe my terrible day's betting at the Derby was some sort of equine related karma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said: I'm sorry but I am sat here smiling. It seems a flare was set off (not clever I'll admit, but not right up there with hooligan related incidents), some fans were upset by some bad language (while others praised the away support in the home end.) and someone threw a burger at a police horse! And you seriously think that's even worthy of the newsprint? My only concern, is that I seem to follow two teams who target police horses! Maybe my terrible day's betting at the Derby was some sort of equine related karma One of the articles said there 14 arrests for violence ?? The burger throw is hilarious though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 14 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said: One of the articles said there 14 arrests for violence ?? The burger throw is hilarious though I suppose it depends on what they categorise as violence. I promise you Celtic fans rarely get involved in fisticuffs, it just isn't their thing. I have been attending football matches since 73/74 and have seen a LOT of football violence, some of it pretty scary stuff, but all I saw in Manchester was a lot of pissed up people singing songs and getting along fine. For the record, some of the worst stuff I have seen is at Bristol derbies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, Miah Dennehy said: I suppose it depends on what they categorise as violence. I promise you Celtic fans rarely get involved in fisticuffs, it just isn't their thing. I have been attending football matches since 73/74 and have seen a LOT of football violence, some of it pretty scary stuff, but all I saw in Manchester was a lot of pissed up people singing songs and getting along fine. For the record, some of the worst stuff I have seen is at Bristol derbies. Fair enough mate just going by what I've seen and heard over the years but have never actually seen it myself so will have to take your word for it. Interesting you say that about our derbies because I seen a stat today from 2 years ago showing that both our teams have some of the highest banning orders out of the 92, with us being narrowly behind Millwall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Foreign teams have been invited into this coming season's Challenge Cup again. Two each from Wales, Northern Ireland and the RoI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 On 23/06/2017 at 20:02, Miah Dennehy said: I promise you Celtic fans rarely get involved in fisticuffs, it just isn't their thing..... No, but they are well into their disgraceful, distasteful and inflammatory banners..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 9 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: No, but they are well into their disgraceful, distasteful and inflammatory banners..... Im assuming they are both just as bad as each other. Just that Ive seen more to suggest Celtic fans are worse by looking at social media and news articles. One article suggested that a few SPL clubs had complained to the league about the behaviour of celtic fans at their grounds over the last couple of seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 56 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said: Im assuming they are both just as bad as each other. Just that Ive seen more to suggest Celtic fans are worse by looking at social media and news articles. When there are two clubs in one city with sectarian differences you'll get problems. Its a real shame that religion should come into football in any shape or form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miah Dennehy Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 23 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: No, but they are well into their disgraceful, distasteful and inflammatory banners..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Rangers currently 2-0 down (2-1 agg) to a team from Luxembourg in the Europa League qualifiers with 12 minutes to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballwinningcentrehalf Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 I've spent a bit of time defending Scottish football, and I'd actually like Rangers to win a few games in Europe to help the co-efficient, but I have to say I can barely wipe the smile off my face seeing this scoreline thus far. Would surely be the worst result in their (some would argue, short) history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: Rangers currently 2-0 down (2-1 agg) to a team from Luxembourg in the Europa League qualifiers with 12 minutes to go. Full time, how embarrassing!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 13 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: Full time, how embarrassing!. Well they were losing to Alloa only a few years ago, so it's hardly surprising they can't beat the team that finished 4th in the Luxembourg league last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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