Admin Ian M Posted July 8, 2017 Admin Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 10 hours ago, Bs4Red said: 13 goals in 107 championship appearances and people think he's useful at this level. Absolutely delusional, nothing but sentiment. "Oh but he's a really good guy, he's really good around the dressing room" Get a grip. How many points did that gain us? They're all grown adults. Club talks about progressing and we're playing a 37 year old up top. Laughable I thought this would have been more positively received than this. I'm absolutely delighted personally. I must be one of the few that see how savvy he is on the field and is a particularly strong option to bring into the game late on from the bench to close games out. If he was gonna be flogged playing 90mins from the start every week like Cotts used him then I'd agree with you but at his age 20-30 mins every week is totally within his ability and the ball sticks up front a lot better when he is fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 16 hours ago, Red Army 75 said: Love the wilb. Top bloke He would have been off like a rocket is there was a better offer on the table, but good pro yes, we had one terrific season out of him, but to offer him another contract. not exactly progress is it? Like I said sentiment over sensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Ian M said: I thought this would have been more positively received than this. I'm absolutely delighted personally. I must be one of the few that see how savvy he is on the field and is a particularly strong option to bring into the game late on from the bench to close games out. If he was gonna be flogged playing 90mins from the start every week like Cotts used him then I'd agree with you but at his age 20-30 mins every week is totally within his ability and the ball sticks up front a lot better when he is fresh. Agreed, put it this way, with 20 minutes left, I'd rather see Wilbs coming on than Djuric at the moment. Hopefully Wilbs can teach him a few tricks of the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Most, though not all, of the negative reaction is coming from those who tend to react negatively to everything anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 12 hours ago, reddoh said: I love it here. each too there own. :-) no need for a taxi. What do you love about 'Caldicot'? I'll give you the castle - but what else??? tfj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 17 minutes ago, Taxi for Johnson said: What do you love about 'Caldicot'? I'll give you the castle - but what else??? tfj The people its quiet the weather the birds in the garden (feathered steady on @Rudolf Hucker) the garden the house the fact that it is very close too Gods own country the view its close to a Rail station I could go on but you would get bored whoops missed the wife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 minute ago, reddoh said: The people its quiet the weather the birds in the garden (feathered steady on @Rudolf Hucker) the garden the house the fact that it is very close too Gods own country the view its close to a Rail station I could go on but you would get bored I can see you are giving it a real try, but you are clutching at straws a bit:- - did you mention it has oxygen and grass?? NEVER back a losing position. Admit you are wrong, and I'll stop attacking you. tfj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 11 minutes ago, Taxi for Johnson said: I can see you are giving it a real try, but you are clutching at straws a bit:- - did you mention it has oxygen and grass?? NEVER back a losing position. Admit you are wrong, and I'll stop attacking you. tfj are you my wife? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bs4Red Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 47 minutes ago, Ian M said: I thought this would have been more positively received than this. I'm absolutely delighted personally. I must be one of the few that see how savvy he is on the field and is a particularly strong option to bring into the game late on from the bench to close games out. If he was gonna be flogged playing 90mins from the start every week like Cotts used him then I'd agree with you but at his age 20-30 mins every week is totally within his ability and the ball sticks up front a lot better when he is fresh. But for me we're paying a bloke 3/4K a week and people are "happy" to accept he's only fit for 20 minutes. My point is it's not a step forward, it's an easy option. There are better players out there who can play 90 minutes and do a better job. Just because he's physical doesn't make him a good footballer. I think people only see the good in a Wilbs and many other city players imo. His hold up play isn't great and yes he is savvy but I'm sorry if being savvy gets you a contract that's not good enough for me. I guess I just want us to move forward and progress and feel seeing Wilbs in a playing shirt again isn't that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, Bs4Red said: But for me we're paying a bloke 3/4K a week and people are "happy" to accept he's only fit for 20 minutes. My point is it's not a step forward, it's an easy option. There are better players out there who can play 90 minutes and do a better job. Just because he's physical doesn't make him a good footballer. I think people only see the good in a Wilbs and many other city players imo. His hold up play isn't great and yes he is savvy but I'm sorry if being savvy gets you a contract that's not good enough for me. I guess I just want us to move forward and progress and feel seeing Wilbs in a playing shirt again isn't that. What about Caldicot? Don't you have an opinion at all?? tfj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Think it's okay. He can pass tricks of the trade onto the strikers, especially Djuric. His cameos have been of some value so used in a cameo role it could be okay. Mainly keep him for what he can teach the strikers though tbh. Someone mentioned Carey and his new contracts.. Tbh even an aging Carey was preferable to Fontaine and Nyatanga in the last 2 or 3 Championship seasons but it was no long term solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, reddoh said: are you my wife? No, I am the one suggesting you have the oxygen. I am opposed to your wife on this point. tfj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Just now, Mr Popodopolous said: Think it's okay. He can pass tricks of the trade onto the strikers, especially Djuric. His cameos have been of some value so used in a cameo role it could be okay. Mainly keep him for what he can teach the strikers though tbh. Someone mentioned Carey and his new contracts.. Tbh even an aging Carey was preferable to Fontaine and Nyatanga in the last 2 or 3 Championship seasons but it was no long term solution. Are you talking about Caldicot or the depth of our striking options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 23 minutes ago, reddoh said: The people its quiet the weather the birds in the garden (feathered steady on @Rudolf Hucker) the garden the house the fact that it is very close too Gods own country the view its close to a Rail station I could go on but you would get bored whoops missed the wife How can we shut this bloke up? Perhaps Steve can move one of the training pitches to Caldicot - but I am not sure it's going to be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, Bs4Red said: But for me we're paying a bloke 3/4K a week and people are "happy" to accept he's only fit for 20 minutes. My point is it's not a step forward, it's an easy option. There are better players out there who can play 90 minutes and do a better job. Just because he's physical doesn't make him a good footballer. I think people only see the good in a Wilbs and many other city players imo. His hold up play isn't great and yes he is savvy but I'm sorry if being savvy gets you a contract that's not good enough for me. I guess I just want us to move forward and progress and feel seeing Wilbs in a playing shirt again isn't that. You are correct . We also have a lovein for the players that achieved the double. He hasn't done bad for us . Model pro . Never been my type of player . Jobs for the boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 11 minutes ago, Taxi for Johnson said: How can we shut this bloke up? Perhaps Steve can move one of the training pitches to Caldicot - but I am not sure it's going to be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Just now, reddoh said: I am pleased, but there is a nagging doubt the gag would have been better used on BigTone over on the Dog Lovers forum. He is spending an unhealthy amount of time over there - just saying. tfj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 39 minutes ago, Bs4Red said: But for me we're paying a bloke 3/4K a week and people are "happy" to accept he's only fit for 20 minutes. My point is it's not a step forward, it's an easy option. There are better players out there who can play 90 minutes and do a better job. Just because he's physical doesn't make him a good footballer. I think people only see the good in a Wilbs and many other city players imo. His hold up play isn't great and yes he is savvy but I'm sorry if being savvy gets you a contract that's not good enough for me. I guess I just want us to move forward and progress and feel seeing Wilbs in a playing shirt again isn't that. On what basis are we paying "3/4K a week"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Taxi for Johnson said: Are you talking about Caldicot or the depth of our striking options? Got reasonable depth up top, maybe could do with one more just to cover all bases. Caldicot? Never been but it looks quite nice in photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touch_my_butter Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 How anyone could claim this is bad news is beyond me. Wilbs' biggest asset is his dressing room influence - That alone is worth paying for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 2 hours ago, View from the Dolman said: On what basis are we paying "3/4K a week"? It could be more . Maybe Wilbs is cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 19 hours ago, JoeAman08 said: He does those things well but he doesn't make defenders feel his strength and body as well as Wilbs. You'll often see him with a hand behind him trying to hold defenders off like that but it's not as effective as Wilbs getting his behind into a defender and using his power to back that defender up to receive the ball. Wilbs occupies defenders whereas I think Djuric let's them off a bit by trying to keep them away I think Djuric has maybe held back though At times there were fouls given against him and the only possible thing it could have been for was breathing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: I think Djuric has maybe held back though At times there were fouls given against him and the only possible thing it could have been for was breathing. Yea he will get there. He's probably the most gifted footballing big man I've seen at the Gate other then Andy Carroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 3 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Got reasonable depth up top, maybe could do with one more just to cover all bases. Caldicot? Never been but it looks quite nice in photos. What photos are those then? tfj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtimmy11 Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 6 hours ago, View from the Dolman said: On what basis are we paying "3/4K a week"? I think he will be 4k upwards .this is why modern football stinks.This is a guy who was about to retire until steve Coutts asked him to join us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 24 minutes ago, Mtimmy11 said: I think he will be 4k upwards .this is why modern football stinks.This is a guy who was about to retire until steve Coutts asked him to join us. No he wasn't. Literally just making things up in order to suit your weird agenda against everyone connected with the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtimmy11 Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 20 minutes ago, Northern Red said: No he wasn't. Literally just making things up in order to suit your weird agenda against everyone connected with the club. He met him by chance in a hotel in Dubai thank you very much.Chill out a little bit it's only a football forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 52 minutes ago, Mtimmy11 said: I think he will be 4k upwards .this is why modern football stinks.This is a guy who was about to retire until steve Coutts asked him to join us. You "think"? Is Steve Coutts part of the banking dynasty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 6 hours ago, Touch_my_butter said: How anyone could claim this is bad news is beyond me. Wilbs' biggest asset is his dressing room influence - That alone is worth paying for. No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 35 minutes ago, Mtimmy11 said: He met him by chance in a hotel in Dubai thank you very much.Chill out a little bit it's only a football forum. Yes, and no. I'm pretty sure they did meet there, and while the story was said that it was a chance meeting, I have heard to the contrary. Wilbraham also spoke how Cotts kept checking up on him and his fitness. IMO Cotterill had decided he wanted Wilbs but had some concerns re age and fitness. There is an interview with one- cant remember whether Wilbs or Cotterill (probably the latter)- where it was said it wasnt really a chance meeting, but that it was a good story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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