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Robbored

Robbored

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Anybody else think the sound in the Dolman was muffled yet again on Saturday?  I struggled to hear the names of the substitutions. It's very frustrating.

I was led to believe that the old Dolman speakers were not compatible with the new sound system within AG and that the issue would be recitified during the summer but obviously not.

A question for MKelly maybe?

Akira

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I couldn't hear anything over the PA at the back of the south stand either. Looked over to the screens, to see if it showed the names of the substitutes, and it didn't. 

Agree, frustrating. 

ZiderEyed

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Sounded alright for me in S23. It is poor in the Dolman though, having sat there for the Plymouth game.

cidered abroad

cidered abroad

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I Sit in S22 Row 25. We've all given up trying to listen to the PA as it's pathetically bad. A rebuild of three sides of the stadium at £40/45 million and we have a PA that probably cost £25.

wendyredredrobin

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Section E32 sound awful.  We were all asking each other who the subs were as we couldnt hear.  This PA system is going to be really useful in the event of an emergency.

I think there was an announcement for someone to urgently contact their family too.  Hope he could hear it.

Robbored

Robbored

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13 minutes ago, cynic said:

Question asked in the Q&A section.

Again.

I wonder when we'll get an answer?

The sound system in the Dolman is a poor reflection on the other excellent development in AG.

Surely it can't be that difficult to fix?

Phileas Fogg

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9 minutes ago, RedDave said:

Why do people need to be told who is coming on or off?  Genuine question as can't think of any reason unless a fan is blind or doesnt know what players look like 

It is quite useful for opposition players who you might not recognise by sight

tts_city

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It was quiet wasnt it and I thoroughly enjoyed it, last season it was making my ears bleed. Why do we have to have crap music in the buildup anyway ? interviews and selection info fine. I would prefer just the crowds noise and cut the music, they do it in a couple of places now, i hope it catches on.

RedM

RedM

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2 hours ago, Dave said:

I noticed someone can't spell Crewe on the Scoreboard as well.

For the second game in a row! 

handsofclay

handsofclay

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I was in the top tier of the Lansdown Stand, three rows back and couldn't make out what was being said pre match and at half time over the tannoy. Just glad I was able to see the half time scores on the screens. Out of interest, can anyone in the ground hear clearly what is being said?

Lanterne Rouge

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9 minutes ago, handsofclay said:

I was in the top tier of the Lansdown Stand, three rows back and couldn't make out what was being said pre match and at half time over the tannoy. Just glad I was able to see the half time scores on the screens. Out of interest, can anyone in the ground hear clearly what is being said?

In the SS, no.

Denbury Red

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Same in W15. Very muffled and even though we can see the chap - if I had better long distance sight I might try lip reading!!

He does hold the mic very close to his mouth - perhaps he needs to try holing it further away from his mouth then it might be more clear!

RedLionLad

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2 minutes ago, cynic said:

His answer of "its been fixed" is a bit odd.

Its as crap as its always been - certainly in the Dolman.

 

Subtitles on the big screens might help

A Horse With No Name

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4 hours ago, Akira said:

I couldn't hear anything over the PA at the back of the south stand either. Looked over to the screens, to see if it showed the names of the substitutes, and it didn't. 

Agree, frustrating. 

sat at the back of S21 and couldnt understand a thing. At one point I roughly made out that somebody or other was being asked to contact the nearest steward, but as for the name, it was impossible to hear.

Akira

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Yep, couldn't make out anything. Glad it wasn't just me! 

As for reddave asking why we need to hear it... Really? Surely you don't need that answering? Announcements, subs, added on time etc. 

And no, at the back of the south stand, I can't always make out who's who, especially on the opposition team... 

Xiled

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After last season's ear bleeding volume levels in the upper Lansdown, it was far too quiet in S19/S20 corner of the South Stand.

The only time I could actually hear what was being said was when the crowd fell silent immediately before the minute's applause.  I assume from this that the volume had been set when the stadium was empty (!)  Even though we don't sing much, the general low-level moaning and whinging during the afternoon blocked out any words from the PA.

At least it's consistent now.  I can't hear the music, announcements, screen interviews, substitutions, or half-time scores.  I couldn't even hear the song that was played at the end of the game - until most people had left the ground.

While I appreciate the problem is clearly not easily solved, all previous versions of the PA system were better (although some were very 'screechy' for music).  From my early attendances in the eighties, Scott Davidson's big loud speakers in the corners of the pitch and the upgraded system that we had prior to redevelopment, the sound was more consistent and audible than the arrangements that have been in place since the Lansdown Stand was completed.

@Mkelly I would suggest that the club needs to go out to a different company for advice.  Whoever has been involved to date and installed and configured this PA system are not getting close to the sound we need.  At present, there is a genuine safety risk because I would have no idea what is being said if emergency instructions were issued.

RedLionLad

RedLionLad

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I think the problem could be caused by having too many speakers.......or speakers too close together.

Is anyone on here a sound engineer?

 

Xiled

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7 minutes ago, RedLionLad said:

I think the problem could be caused by having too many speakers.......or speakers too close together.

Is anyone on here a sound engineer?

It's not related but too many wireless access points at my place of work degraded our wifi speeds.  The building was over-specified and the excess hardware created interference.  Switching off 50% of them resolved the issues.  Basically, we had bad advice from a contractor.

Dollymarie

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To add to this, I could hear slightly better when I was in the Atyeo last season, compared to now in the South Stand corner. 

I can hear Downsy for the most part ok, but the interviews with Lee, and general announcements by others aren't so clear. The music seemed really quiet on Saturday as well. 

I have to really concentrate to try and hear what's being said, even when Downsy is speaking. 

Just my input. 

RedM

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I always thought it was just the Dolman which was affected, certainly last year people in other parts of the ground weren't commenting like they are now. I sat in the South Stand corner which joins the Lansdown for every rugby match last year and never experienced the sound problems that I did when I sat in E29 for my football ST. Now the problems seem to have spread.

Sound is too high or too low, but worse than that it's muffled and inaudible. As someone said you could be missing safety announcements. @Mkelly for your information.

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Phantom

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12 hours ago, cynic said:

His answer of "its been fixed" is a bit odd.

Its as crap as its always been - certainly in the Dolman.

Maybe @Mkelly should try sitting in the stands on a match day to hear for himself.

@cynic From the reply in the post below it appears whatever work was to be done has been completed?

Though from the responses on this thread clearly still not fit for purpose

 

Robbored

Robbored

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I see that MKelly has replied on a different thread so maybe he could reply on this thread as well?

He is the stadium manager, isn't he?

Bristol Rob

Bristol Rob

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1 minute ago, Robbored said:

I see that MKelly has replied on a different thread so maybe he could reply on this thread as well?

He is the stadium manager, isn't he?

Managing Director these days. I believe.

handsofclay

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17 hours ago, handsofclay said:

I was in the top tier of the Lansdown Stand, three rows back and couldn't make out what was being said pre match and at half time over the tannoy. Just glad I was able to see the half time scores on the screens. Out of interest, can anyone in the ground hear clearly what is being said?

I think it speaks volumes, and clearly, that in the 17 hours since I asked if anyone at all in the ground can hear the PA system clearly that nobody has yet answered YES!

Bristol Rob

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2 minutes ago, handsofclay said:

I think it speaks volumes, and clearly, that in the 17 hours since I asked if anyone at all in the ground can hear the PA system clearly that nobody has yet answered YES!

I think we are all speaking volumes. Or rather lack of them.

handsofclay

handsofclay

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11 minutes ago, handsofclay said:

I think it speaks volumes, and clearly, that in the 17 hours since I asked if anyone at all in the ground can hear the PA system clearly that nobody has yet answered YES!

Then again to be fair, nobody is going to answer yes for fear that 18,000 plus people in the stadium will be asking him/her all match 'What did he say?'

t_b

t_b

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I still maintain that all the "pre match LJ videos" etc should just be done with subtitles. No need for them immediately after filming; put them up just before the players walk out when the ground is at its fullest. 

But with subtitles so people can read it on the big screens as they "talk" - it's hardly putting scientific equations and complex mathematical formulas up; I reckon you could pre-write most of it and just copy and paste with minimal alteration weekly!

Lanterne Rouge

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Beats me why we haven`t yet managed to put substitutions up on the screens. Since you can`t hear who`s come on for the opposition unless you have an in depth knowledge of what Ipswich`s squad look like you have no idea whether they`ve brought on a defender or whatever.

t_b

t_b

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At Watford and you can hear everything they say pitchside and they do it whilst just fading down the song playing as well. 

So it is possible!

Guest

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33 minutes ago, tommy_b said:

At Watford and you can hear everything they say pitchside and they do it whilst just fading down the song playing as well. 

So it is possible!

Out of interest do Watford have speakers at ground level? I.e. Around the pitch? I'm convinced that's part of the problem 

t_b

t_b

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1 hour ago, Tomarse said:

Out of interest do Watford have speakers at ground level? I.e. Around the pitch? I'm convinced that's part of the problem 

Didn't see any and the sound seemed to come from up above. Theirs seemed much larger than ours which do seem - in the Dolman - to be many and frequent.

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