Antman Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 so I'm happy to let his appalling kicking go unchallenged as he is (until today) a great shot stopper but what exactly does the coach practise with him? how to slice it into touch time after time? if so well done, he's ace at that!!! that free kick should NOT have gone in on his near post, the first goal was iffy. he gave up on it really easily, the header that O Dowda lost his man on was poor - today was a baaaaaad game for our Frankie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Sorry he is div1 at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Just now, Ivorguy said: Sorry he is div1 at best Yes. That’s right. He’s been playing like a league one keeper all season. You’ve no idea have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Just now, Fordy62 said: Yes. That’s right. He’s been playing like a league one keeper all season. You’ve no idea have you? Ah you probably haven't experienced seeing a decent goalkeeper for us at this level Not your fault, but he simply is not in the same league as Cashley or Gibson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 When were beating prem teams, Steele was in goal. That might tell you who the no. 1 should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 I think that third goal was the first one this season I can think of that was down to him (it wasn’t a free kick either Bryan won the ball). O’Dowda had been limping just before losing the man for the second & I was amazed he was still on then, Kelly to LB & Bryan in front made sense to me. I do think we will bring in another keeper this summer but reckon Steele will be the one on his way. If FF starts the last two I will be even more convinced this will happen.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 If we are to progress a top goalkeeper is a must for us with frankie being kept as back up...overall game is not good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trueredsupporter Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said: If we are to progress a top goalkeeper is a must for us with frankie being kept as back up...overall game is not good enough progress would be better.it shows between the sticks how much is spent while millions get spent on forwards!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City fan 1982 Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Has he not long signed a contract extension ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 It’s ok , we’ve got Max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 This was his worst game for ages. A good keeper would have saved at least two of those goals. Frank is usually much better BUT I think we should remember this isn't the only time this season he's had a stinker or done something insane to cost us points. I like the man, but I think we should be in the market for a new keeper this summer, if we are to compete at the top of this division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: This was his worst game for ages. A good keeper would have saved at least two of those goals. Frank is usually much better BUT I think we should remember this isn't the only time this season he's had a stinker or done something insane to cost us points. I like the man, but I think we should be in the market for a new keeper this summer, if we are to compete at the top of this division. Problem is RR WIth the likely departures we will be left with a squad that you could argue the same for , from top to bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Just now, BobBobSuperBob said: Problem is RR WIth the likely departures we will be left with a squad that you could argue the same for , from top to bottom Unless you get the basics right, you'll never progress and getting a truly class act between the sticks is a must. I actually think there may be fewer enquiries for our players than some think - but Bobby getting a better offer is almost guaranteed. And he'll be difficult to replace. The good thing is decent keepers cost a lot less than decent strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 44 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said: If we are to progress a top goalkeeper is a must for us with frankie being kept as back up...overall game is not good enough To progress, we also need a better RB, better wingers and another striker tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Red-Robbo said: Unless you get the basics right, you'll never progress and getting a truly class act between the sticks is a must. I actually think there may be fewer enquiries for our players than some think - but Bobby getting a better offer is almost guaranteed. And he'll be difficult to replace. The good thing is decent keepers cost a lot less than decent strikers. Had a shocker today but still not convinced there’s many if any keepers about in our range that don’t either Very frustrating but still think he’s a ‘decent’ keeper at this level (Sounds crazy after today I know) Really p’d off with his performance today but think we could easily replace him with someone not as good Gieffer / O’Donnell were two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, petehinton said: To progress, we also need a better RB, better wingers and another striker tbf. Yeah agree but topic was about goalkeeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trueredsupporter Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Unless you get the basics right, you'll never progress and getting a truly class act between the sticks is a must. I actually think there may be fewer enquiries for our players than some think - but Bobby getting a better offer is almost guaranteed. And he'll be difficult to replace. The good thing is decent keepers cost a lot less than decent strikers. Think Frankie is more than decent at parts of his game. but he is also poor at parts. He is what City pay for a % of what is spent on forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Antman said: so I'm happy to let his appalling kicking go unchallenged as he is (until today) a great shot stopper but what exactly does the coach practise with him? how to slice it into touch time after time? if so well done, he's ace at that!!! that free kick should NOT have gone in on his near post, the first goal was iffy. he gave up on it really easily, the header that O Dowda lost his man on was poor - today was a baaaaaad game for our Frankie I agree, to be fair he has generally had a good season between the sticks but today his kicking really pissed me off, the worst part being he was kicking dead balls straight into touch and none of the balls he kicked straight out was he under any pressure and on top of the free kick, he had a shocker, I just cannot understand the kicking it looks to me as though he never practices because he has never improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Just now, Trueredsupporte said: Think Frankie is more than decent at parts of his game. but he is also poor at parts. He is what City pay for a % of what is spent on forwards. I just think he has a few too many weaknesses and had a few too many poor games to be a Top 6 of the Championship keeper. And that's surely what we should be aiming for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h hills left shoe Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Had a shocker today but still not convinced there’s many if any keepers about in our range that don’t either Very frustrating but still think he’s a ‘decent’ keeper at this level (Sounds crazy after today I know) Really p’d off with his performance today but think we could easily replace him with someone not as good Gieffer / O’Donnell were two But what about Luke Steele?why hasn't he been given a chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Just now, h hills left shoe said: But what about Luke Steele?why hasn't he been given a chance? I have a strong feeling he'll get the last two games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalcub Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 His distribution is woeful , it’s time to buy a new number 1 stop looking at loan signings and invest in a decent commanding keeper , after hearing all around me moaning week in week out about his kicking it’s actually got to me now and it’s inexcusable every game straight into the stands ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h hills left shoe Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Just now, Red-Robbo said: I have a strong feeling he'll get the last two games. Too little too late though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, h hills left shoe said: But what about Luke Steele?why hasn't he been given a chance? Personally I think FFs been playing ok/ well this season and kept us in a few games since Xmas (Had an absolute shocker today) Id have FF over Steele personally on what I’ve seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 His kicking has been like that all season - generally it's been overlooked because he has been decent. Sadly today he had a shocker. I would like to see him dropped for final two games now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h hills left shoe Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Personally I think FFs been playing ok/ well this season and kept us in a few games since Xmas (Had an absolute shocker today) Id have FF over Steele personally on what I’ve seen But we haven't seen enough of Steele to see what he could do long term,! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: I agree, to be fair he has generally had a good season between the sticks but today his kicking really pissed me off, the worst part being he was kicking dead balls straight into touch and none of the balls he kicked straight out was he under any pressure and on top of the free kick, he had a shocker, I just cannot understand the kicking it looks to me as though he never practices because he has never improved. Blame Lee Johnson. Frank Fieldings distribution is suspect. A Lee Johnson tactic accentuates that flaw each week, each game. How many other coaches would persist with this tactic knowing that he will waste possession frequently? Frank Fielding will be practicing each week, but if an individual struggles with a particular skill it is normal for the Managers / Coaches to make an adjustment. Frank Fielding may be asked to do something he does want to, has a lack of confidence in and lacks the ability to do. This tactic is a reflection of Lee Johnson and his ideas not Frank Fielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Cowshed said: Blame Lee Johnson. Frank Fieldings distribution is suspect. A Lee Johnson tactic accentuates that flaw each week, each game. How may other coaches would persist with this tactic knowing that he will waste possession frequently? Frank Fielding will be practicing each week, but if an individual struggles with a particular skill it is normal for the Managers / Coaches to make an adjustment. Frank Fielding may be asked to do something he does want to, has a lack of confidence in and lacks the ability to do. This tactic is reflection of Lee Johnson and his ideas not Frank Fielding. I'm sorry I am not LJ's biggest fan but kicking a dead ball or a rolling ball whilst under no pressure is almost certainly the easiest part of a keepers game, he actually put at least one goal kick directly into touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, h hills left shoe said: But we haven't seen enough of Steele to see what he could do long term,! I guess that’s fair but (personally) Indont think FF has deserved to lose his place Steele didn’t particularly stand out when FF was suspended Hes not too different from FF in so much he doesn’t dominate his area , not great with his feet but a decent shot stopper but better than FF ? Nothing I’ve seen to date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h hills left shoe Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: I guess that’s fair but (personally) Indont think FF has deserved to lose his place Steele didn’t particularly stand out when FF was suspended Hes not too different from FF in so much he doesn’t dominate his area , not great with his feet but a decent shot stopper but better than FF ? Nothing I’ve seen to date But is this down to the coaching? If they are both similar then surely the problem is elsewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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