Robbored Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, Davefevs said: As long as it’s not WITH MA How does that Sparks song go? “This town ain’t big enough for the both of us”......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 55 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Trying to work out why Scudamore who excelled in negotiating commercial deals would be an obvious and ideal replacement for Ashton in the current set up Id like to see somebody with far more experience in the actual football side in place of or , ideally , alongside Ashton and let him deal with administration, finance , negotiation etc That’s where I am with it Bob. For all that Scudamore did a good job in negotiating hefty tv deals and keeping 20 chairmen happy, he’s essentially a businessman so I do question what his actual football knowledge is. What qualifies him for doing a ‘football’ job at BCFC? What are his skills? What can he provide to a mid-table champ club fighting against the contraints of FFP and the financial imbalance of parachute payments, based on his 20 years sitting atop a structure awash with cash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 15, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 Luckily he is dead against it, and no doubt it will be voted out later Am sure he would rather that money was reinvested into lower league football - or perhaps he could send a donation to his favourite team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
city1983 Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 11 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: Thought this thread may contain some of the rumours that seem to be doing the rounds that Scudamore is on his way to City. Heard nothing myself...anyone? How do you even know there are rumors then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 15, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 55 minutes ago, city1983 said: How do you even know there are rumors then? Wouldn't be a rumor if it was true - it would be a fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Harry said: That’s where I am with it Bob. For all that Scudamore did a good job in negotiating hefty tv deals and keeping 20 chairmen happy, he’s essentially a businessman so I do question what his actual football knowledge is. What qualifies him for doing a ‘football’ job at BCFC? What are his skills? What can he provide to a mid-table champ club fighting against the contraints of FFP and the financial imbalance of parachute payments, based on his 20 years sitting atop a structure awash with cash? Scudamore will have numerous contacts throughout the game. He’ll have a deep knowledge of the FFP regulations and know how to negotiate them. His knowledge of the football industry will be vast, having worked at the highest level within the game. Even if his football knowledge is limited ( unlikely) his other talents and skills outweigh that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oldstandrobin Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 On 13/11/2018 at 17:10, ScottishRed said: Already on a reported £2.5m a year - words fail me. And as an OAP I'm on a reputed £165 a week................hardly any difference, we both have to sh*t in the same pan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_s Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 On 13/11/2018 at 16:56, AppyDAZE said: Rich? Rich_s The drinks are on me ladies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 2 hours ago, phantom said: What a complete load of bollocks. What this looks like is a complete cover up of the Bruce Buck £250k a club idea, tarted up to look like a proper leaving gift. He should be ashamed of himself. And before anyone says ‘what would you have done in the circumstances’, I’ll tell you. I would refuse to accept it. I have my principles, and this would be against them. I know this guy is a City fan, but this proves he us not a football fan with the game at heart. He has let himself down badly imho. Very disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 So he’s taking the money then. Disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 His name starts with Rich and ends with more The guy was always going to be a winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 @Robbored Briefly on your FFP point, PL, EFL and UEFA FFP all encompass different aspects- PL FFP regs seem to be tokenistic only, but maybe that will change. Wouldn't be suited here in my view, certainly not while we are a midrange Championship club with all the constraints we have at this time. £5m...should go to grassroots or subsidising away travel IMO. Not like he needs the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 Although obscene to most people, Football is now a multi billion pound industry and if you sit at the top of businesses like that it’s common place to get golden handshakes when you leave. Fair play to him but this is not a football problem, it’s the capitalist society we live in where the rich get richer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: @Robbored Briefly on your FFP point, PL, EFL and UEFA FFP all encompass different aspects- PL FFP regs seem to be tokenistic only, but maybe that will change. Wouldn't be suited here in my view, certainly not while we are a midrange Championship club with all the constraints we have at this time. £5m...should go to grassroots or subsidising away travel IMO. Not like he needs the cash. I will boo him the next time I see him at AG. So disappointed in his decision. OUT OF TOUCH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 It’s basically hush money so that he doesn’t go and do exactly the same job in another league and dilute the power hold of the ‘best’ league in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 Yes cause i'm sure we would all turn it down if offered to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Super said: Yes cause i'm sure we would all turn it down if offered to us. Some of us have morals and principles. I can quite categorically state that if I’d earned £11m from a tv deal from my employers and heard a bunch of clubs were thinking of giving me £5m as a thank you for leaving, I would tell them to not do it, or give it straight to charity....with none of it coming my way for me to decide. Thats me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Some of us have morals and principles. I can quite categorically state that if I’d earned £11m from a tv deal from my employers and heard a bunch of clubs were thinking of giving me £5m as a thank you for leaving, I would tell them to not do it, or give it straight to charity....with none of it coming my way for me to decide. Thats me. he has made those clubs plenty of money I don't blame him for taking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Super said: he has made those clubs plenty of money I don't blame him for taking it. We are different....that’s is fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 Well, unless his habits have changed, the local casinos will be rubbing their hands at this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 Hardly a surprise that the PFA pariah Gordon Taylor has made no comment. https://amp.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/nov/17/gordon-taylor-football-fattest-cat-pfa?__twitter_impression=true We main about agents taking money out of the game, plenty if others are too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Hardly a surprise that the PFA pariah Gordon Taylor has made no comment. https://amp.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/nov/17/gordon-taylor-football-fattest-cat-pfa?__twitter_impression=true We main about agents taking money out of the game, plenty if others are too! I don’t know too much about how the PFA are funded, and thus how Gordon Taylor is remunerated. Are the PFA’s earnings derived from contributions by its members, ie footballers? Or do they derive their income from elsewhere - ie the FA, taxpayer, fans etc? If the former, then it should be at its members’ discretion as to the chairman’s earnings. If the latter then his earnings are indeed, obscene, and it should be reverted to the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Harry said: I don’t know too much about how the PFA are funded, and thus how Gordon Taylor is remunerated. Are the PFA’s earnings derived from contributions by its members, ie footballers? Or do they derive their income from elsewhere - ie the FA, taxpayer, fans etc? If the former, then it should be at its members’ discretion as to the chairman’s earnings. If the latter then his earnings are indeed, obscene, and it should be reverted to the former. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/28/gordon-taylor-pfa-chief-executive-premier-league-pay-rise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted November 17, 2018 Report Share Posted November 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Davefevs said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/28/gordon-taylor-pfa-chief-executive-premier-league-pay-rise Thanks Dave. That’s very interesting. So the members (ie the footballers) contribute on average £11 per month each. Based on member subscriptions of £534k. Tv money takes the income up to £22.5m. He earned £3.4m last year. So basically his earnings are 15% of the whole associations income. That seems rather excessive. I don’t understand why the PFA receive TV money? A union should be funded by its members, shouldn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 11 hours ago, Harry said: Thanks Dave. That’s very interesting. So the members (ie the footballers) contribute on average £11 per month each. Based on member subscriptions of £534k. Tv money takes the income up to £22.5m. He earned £3.4m last year. So basically his earnings are 15% of the whole associations income. That seems rather excessive. I don’t understand why the PFA receive TV money? A union should be funded by its members, shouldn’t it? Or Taylor was gonna get the players to strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 rubbish Post note to self - read posts thoroughly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 Thi is the same PFA who paid £2 million pounds for a Lowrie painting and have put £100k into research into dementia resulting from heading the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Do you know how much these mega rich footballers pay each year in subscription mate ? Anyone want to have a punt ? Current Tariffs The following tarriffs are per season (July-June): Professional Players: £150 Scholars: £20 Joining Fee (once only fee when first joining the PFA): £20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted November 18, 2018 Report Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: Current Tariffs The following tarriffs are per season (July-June): Professional Players: £150 Scholars: £20 Joining Fee (once only fee when first joining the PFA): £20 Ta - See my amended post above Dave Where I ask Harry what the players contribute and quote his post where .....he explains what the players contribute..... Sunday morning aghhhhhhhhhhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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