Johnny Musicworks Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 The way that the metro bus route has encircled the site and effectively cut most of it off from the Village Green I think makes the case for approval much stronger. I mischievously wonder if SL had any influence in placing it there. It also sounds like the site’s Green belt status is pretty much going to cease with or without this plan anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, TomF said: Yep you cannot raise a village green application after planning has been raised. At least one good thing came from that whole saga. I used to work with a colleague who still lives in one of the Ashton Vale houses and she and I were chatting about the proposed Ashton Vale stadium and she was absolutely convinced that it wouldn’t happen because of Village Green status I thought she was talking bollocks - how wrong I was……………… Edited October 5, 2022 by Robbored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 Outline planning application for Longmoor Village APPROVED BY 5 VOTES TO 1 (with 3 ABSTENTIONS). This is an outline planning application for the general concept so a full planning application will have to follow before any development happens but would be expected to be OK if it meets the conditions prescribed of this outline application. It will also need to be referred to the Secretary of State due to the green belt issue. There is also an application relating to access which is to be determined by North Somerset Council. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 minute ago, View from the Dolman said: Outline planning application for Longmoor Village APPROVED BY 5 VOTES TO 1 (with 3 ABSTENTIONS). This is an outline planning application for the general concept so a full planning application will have to follow before any development happens but would be expected to be OK if it meets the conditions prescribed of this outline application. It will also need to be referred to the Secretary of State due to the green belt issue. There is also an application relating to access which is to be determined by North Somerset Council. Did I hear correctly that the site is to be sold with outline permission to fund the sports development? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City37 Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 Good progress but what about North Somerset Council... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley is our king Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 Passed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Countryfile said: Did I hear correctly that the site is to be sold with outline permission to fund the sports development? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Countryfile said: Did I hear correctly that the site is to be sold with outline permission to fund the sports development? Yes, SL will sell the land with outline permission so he gets the funds in place to start on the sporting quarter. The new owners of longmoor will then have to get a detailed reserved matters application through planning to be able to start on site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 Just now, City37 said: Good progress but what about North Somerset Council... Wouldn’t be too worried about that. They will be primarily considering the impact on the green belt of a small section of access road together with any traffic-related issues. Assume the applicant has already assessed the traffic issues and likely at this stag3 to have agreed them with the Council’s experts. Would be out of order to attempt to link their application to the Bristol one for the development of the overall site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 A member of the opposition to the Ashton Vale element saying that (committee chair Richard) "Eddy is dead to me" on Twitter. Stay classy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, YorksRed said: From listening to the debate it sounded like the site will be sold on with the outline planning permission that has just been granted and it won’t be Bristol Sport/Pula dealing with the detailed planning and building it out. Is that right? But the money won't be under the control of SL, it has to be used for the development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorksRed Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: But the money won't be under the control of SL, it has to be used for the development. That’s fair enough as the developments were linked to get the housing through. Sounds like the sporting quarter is going to actually happen which is great. I’m looking forward to hopefully travelling down, stay in the hotel for a weekend and be able to see a match and also, potentially, the Flyers too. Will be a fine way to spend a weekend! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, YorksRed said: That’s fair enough as the developments were linked to get the housing through. Sounds like the sporting quarter is going to actually happen which is great. I’m looking forward to hopefully travelling down, stay in the hotel for a weekend and be able to see a match and also, potentially, the Flyers too. Will be a fine way to spend a weekend! Bring the car as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Bladder Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 I said at the time, they (residents) will regret getting the stadium thrown out. If houses are built on that land then they'll have congestion every day not just once a fortnight 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Constant Rabbit Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 Goodness,however will SL make money from owning Bristol City and its land? Oh wait....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, The Constant Rabbit said: Goodness,however will SL make money from owning Bristol City and its land? Oh wait....... The council's independent viability report determined the projects to be even less viable than the application did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 32 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: A member of the opposition to the Ashton Vale element saying that (committee chair Richard) "Eddy is dead to me" on Twitter. Stay classy. Just looked at her Twitter seems she wants Bristol not to build anything anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HitchinRed Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) Confirmation of the planning approval: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-63151050 Edited October 5, 2022 by HitchinRed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/plans-approved-new-basketball-arena-7669685?utm_source=bristol_live_newsletter&utm_campaign=daily_newsletter2&utm_medium=email EP coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 I have to say I am pro the sports development, but it's a shame to lose any green belt land when they are still large brownfield sites available within the City itself. Hopefully the buildings themselves will be as carbon neutral as possible. Does anyone know when the development (and presumably disruption) will start? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 Wonder if the impending crash in the housing market will affect the price SL gets for the land? I presume he will get enough for the finaces to work still. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Port Said Red said: I have to say I am pro the sports development, but it's a shame to lose any green belt land when they are still large brownfield sites available within the City itself. Hopefully the buildings themselves will be as carbon neutral as possible. Does anyone know when the development (and presumably disruption) will start? Was it not brownfield up until the point this previous landfill site obtained village green status? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Bristol Rob said: Was it not brownfield up until the point this previous landfill site obtained village green status? I have no idea, possibly that's why there have been so few objections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 3 hours ago, robin_unreliant said: Wonder if the impending crash in the housing market will affect the price SL gets for the land? I presume he will get enough for the finaces to work still. Comes as sold as seen rob....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 18 hours ago, BasSavage88 said: Just looked at her Twitter seems she wants Bristol not to build anything anywhere All she wanted was to save the bats! Sounded American/Canadian to me and didn't take losing very well, nor did at least one of her like minded mates who stormed out when the Chairperson was closing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 19 hours ago, Johnny Musicworks said: The way that the metro bus route has encircled the site and effectively cut most of it off from the Village Green I think makes the case for approval much stronger. I mischievously wonder if SL had any influence in placing it there. It also sounds like the site’s Green belt status is pretty much going to cease with or without this plan anyway. Yes the metro route seems to have helped massively. Surrounded on 3 sides by development and the metro on the 'open' side would have made it farcical if it had been refused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 18 hours ago, BasSavage88 said: Just looked at her Twitter seems she wants Bristol not to build anything anywhere Not true. she’s in favour of brownfield sites being built on. I don’t agree with everything she says but I applaud her work in getting the development of the ‘ western slopes ‘ being turned down. the pocket of green space in between Novers and hartcliffe way 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 18 hours ago, City37 said: Good progress but what about North Somerset Council... The council thinks it can work with them and come to an agreement., only about a quarter is in North Somerset. They said similar happening/happened with the Arena in North Bristol when they had to work with South Gloucestershire where the Arena was in Bristol but access in S. Glous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, RedM said: All she wanted was to save the bats! Sounded American/Canadian to me and didn't take losing very well, nor did at least one of her like minded mates who stormed out when the Chairperson was closing. I follow her on Twitter. I don’t agree with everything she says but I applaud some of her work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hxj Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 23 hours ago, View from the Dolman said: The council's independent viability report determined the projects to be even less viable than the application did. Bear in mind that those figures are based upon statutory guidance and therefore may or may not provide an accurate figure. Plus the methodology includes a reasonable developer profit. In reality I'd guess that the actual figures will result in a roughly no profit/no loss position for the owner of the Sporting Quarter, particularly when taking into account the enhancement of Bristol Sport. I don't think that SL will lose a great deal, but I also think that it wont result in a significant profit either. That said it may well cause a significant reduction in SL's required funding of the football club, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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